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    • ClarkeKent
    • By ClarkeKent 18th Mar 17, 4:29 PM
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    Quiet times/routes to travel Leeds<->London
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    Quiet times/routes to travel Leeds<->London 18th Mar 17 at 4:29 PM
    Planning a London day with someone who hates/ get's panicky about busy trains, so we will be avoiding the rush hours for in and out of London (and the tube!)

    We'll be coming from Leeds. Can anyone recommend the best time of day or even best day of the week to travel to London?

    Looking for plenty of spare seats and a non-packed feel.

    Don't want to be doing a Corbyn and sitting on the floor ;-)
    Last edited by ClarkeKent; 18-03-2017 at 5:54 PM.
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    • k3lvc
    • By k3lvc 18th Mar 17, 4:51 PM
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    Good luck with this - as an indicator if you book last minute online then the cheaper prices will show you the quieter trains but you've no way of being certain. What happens if you're the only passengers on it when you get on at Leeds but the world then descends on the train at Doncaster ?

    Not a very moneysaving idea but I'd be looking for a non-stop train (if there is one, if not look at travelling from York/Doncaster) and reserving seats in 1st class

    In Switzerland (where I travel regularly) the national train site shows the likely occupation for each train (for both 1st/2nd class) based on their forecasting and it's generally fairly accurate
    • ClarkeKent
    • By ClarkeKent 18th Mar 17, 5:46 PM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 5:46 PM
    Good note on cheaper prices, thanks. First Class, was an option - but didn't want to end up getting a table and then load of people clumbering on. Essentially paying £200 to sit opposite someone for the whole journey.

    From veterans of the route, just looking for best times and days really.
    Last edited by ClarkeKent; 18-03-2017 at 5:48 PM.
    • k3lvc
    • By k3lvc 18th Mar 17, 7:20 PM
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    I use York-London frequently and it really is pot luck - same day/time on a different week gets very different results. Add into that the lack of consistency from Virgin/East Coast re delays/problems and what should have been an almost empty train becomes packed to the rafters.
    • daveyjp
    • By daveyjp 19th Mar 17, 8:12 AM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 8:12 AM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 8:12 AM
    You wont be on the floor as you should get reserved seats. From my experience most services are busy. First class has far fewer seats so is by default much quieter.

    Book at the right time and first class can be very reasonable.

    An alternative is the Grand Central service orginating in Bradford via Doncaster as Doncaster is the last stop. Downsides are you need to change and there are fewer services.
    • Alan Bowen
    • By Alan Bowen 19th Mar 17, 10:26 AM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 10:26 AM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 10:26 AM
    Your real problem is that you only want to go for a day, the quiet times will give you very little time in London and defeats the purpose of your visit. I travel from London to Yorkshire on almost a weekly basis, the 1003 from London to Leeds is empty but that is not much use to you to know!

    If you book advance tickets you are guaranteed a seat on the trains you book, they run every 30 minutes and the price will indicate the less busy trains but arriving in London at noon to leave again at 3pm makes the day in London rather short. As a general rule returning from London on later trains is better, but not on a Friday for example. If the person can't deal with crowded trains, I am not sure a day to London is a good idea at all, the tube trains from Kings Cross tend to be busy all day but especially before 0930 and after 1600.
    • ClarkeKent
    • By ClarkeKent 19th Mar 17, 2:43 PM
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    • 19th Mar 17, 2:43 PM

    An alternative is the Grand Central service orginating in Bradford via Doncaster as Doncaster is the last stop. Downsides are you need to change and there are fewer services.
    Originally posted by daveyjp
    Like the sound of this Grand Central route, thanks. This could be a goer. I see this goes from Bradford Interchange, is this a direct to London with stops at Mirfield, Doncaster etc https://www.grandcentralrail.com/tickets-timetables/routes/
    Last edited by ClarkeKent; 19-03-2017 at 2:47 PM.
    • ClarkeKent
    • By ClarkeKent 19th Mar 17, 2:45 PM
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    Your real problem is that you only want to go for a day, the quiet times will give you very little time in London and defeats the purpose of your visit. I travel from London to Yorkshire on almost a weekly basis, the 1003 from London to Leeds is empty but that is not much use to you to know!
    Originally posted by Alan Bowen
    We can do an overnight if it makes the whole trip less stressful, that 10.03am London to Leeds sounds like a cracker.
    • knightstyle
    • By knightstyle 19th Mar 17, 4:41 PM
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    Don't forget to get some 2 for 1 vouchers with your train tickets. Get several as thy are free and it does not matter if you don't use them.
    www.daysoutguide.co.uk/2for1-london
    • daveyjp
    • By daveyjp 19th Mar 17, 5:19 PM
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    Like the sound of this Grand Central route, thanks. This could be a goer. I see this goes from Bradford Interchange, is this a direct to London with stops at Mirfield, Doncaster etc https://www.grandcentralrail.com/tickets-timetables/routes/
    Originally posted by ClarkeKent
    Its direct.
    • ScarletBea
    • By ScarletBea 20th Mar 17, 12:11 PM
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    Try to book a seat in the quiet carriage: I never travel anywhere else, now...
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    • ClarkeKent
    • By ClarkeKent 20th Mar 17, 1:28 PM
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    Try to book a seat in the quiet carriage: I never travel anywhere else, now...
    Originally posted by ScarletBea
    How does the % capacity of thr quiet carriage compare to the rest of the train. I would assume that would be the first to go, can't understand why people would want to sit in the "not so quiet" section of the train over this.
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