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    • Asherz88
    • By Asherz88 18th Mar 17, 12:29 AM
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    Need opinions
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    • 18th Mar 17, 12:29 AM
    Need opinions 18th Mar 17 at 12:29 AM
    Hi all I need some opinions on the matter at hand.
    I work for a fm company who I was told all weekend and overtime we could park on site by senior managers.
    I have therefore parked numerous times without problem until one day I got a ticket. After finding the attendant who I have spoken to before at work I was told he would get it squashed. I also have a fellow colleague witness this. So I left it at that then I had a letter saying I owe money so I took this to my employers who also own the land may I add and was told this would be squashed by them. Now this week I was told as it was after 28 days since the original ticket was issued it's beyond there control and I have to pay it. So I'm thinking my employer employs this firm to manage their spaces and it's beyond their control?
    Do you think I should keep pushing this or back down even though I feel I was duped by the parking attendant so lost my first 28 days
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    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 18th Mar 17, 12:57 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 12:57 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 12:57 AM
    Which parking company?
    NEWBIES - wise up - DO NOT IGNORE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE - you have been warned!

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Please note: I am NOT involved in any 'paid for' appeals service.
    • Asherz88
    • By Asherz88 18th Mar 17, 1:06 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 1:06 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 1:06 AM
    Pcp enforcement agency
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 18th Mar 17, 8:45 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 8:45 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 8:45 AM
    If you're beyond the PPC's appeal window there's not much you can now do other than to see what their next move is.

    Know your enemy.

    Also known as Parkshield Collection Ltd, a member of the IPC where there was never any reasonable prospect of an appeal from you being upheld. Please read the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, especially post #3 which will explain why appealing to an IPC operator (even if within the time frame) is pretty futile.

    https://bmpa.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203629841-Parkshield-Collection-Ltd-Trading-As-PCP-Enforcement-Agency-And-P-C-P-E-A-

    You are next likely to start receiving powerless debt collector letters, which can all be ignored.

    The only way this outfit can force you to pay their trumped up charges is via the small claims court. They have hardly ever issued a small claim in the past 2 years, so chances of this happening are small. If you get court papers, come back and reopen this thread.

    http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Parkshield_Collection.html

    You should now try putting pressure back on your employers - especially if they are the ones who contracted with Parkshield in the first place. Is this the QA hospital in Portsmouth?
    NEWBIES - wise up - DO NOT IGNORE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE - you have been warned!

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Please note: I am NOT involved in any 'paid for' appeals service.
    • Asherz88
    • By Asherz88 18th Mar 17, 9:17 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 9:17 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 9:17 AM
    Yes this is the QA in Portsmouth also do I have no grounds on the fact I was told the parking attendant said he would squash it with a witness present so therefore I've been duped by this and as I know the company I work for can get these tickets wiped which is the route I would of took of he had said he couldn't done anything in the first place
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 18th Mar 17, 9:24 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 9:24 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 9:24 AM
    also do I have no grounds on the fact I was told the parking attendant said he would squash it
    Only guarantee would be via a judge at a small claims case. Otherwise it's only you who can badger and pester, but these outfits are pretty much immune - they deal with such hassle daily.

    Did you not consider that he said he would get your charge 'squashed' (I think you mean quashed) in order to slide away from having a stand-up confrontation with you? It's a standard PPC method of handling such situations.

    Try going back to your employer (are you a member of a trade union?) and pester there. I'm afraid there's no magic wand to wave at this, but this doesn't mean you have to pay the trumped up charge.
    Last edited by Umkomaas; 18-03-2017 at 9:26 AM.
    NEWBIES - wise up - DO NOT IGNORE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE - you have been warned!

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Please note: I am NOT involved in any 'paid for' appeals service.
    • Asherz88
    • By Asherz88 18th Mar 17, 9:32 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 9:32 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 9:32 AM
    Well I have chatted to guy from time to time at work and I was nether going to be confrontational because that normally gets you no where. Unfortunately the cost of joining the union for me would not be beneficial due to the fact I don't get paid a awful lot from my employer. I'm going to keep pestering my employer and continue to ignore these letters as I feel I shouldn't be liable because I was told and numerous others we could park in said location in a specific area which I was. if it goes to court I feel I would have a reasonable case with enough witnesses to my claims would you not agree
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 18th Mar 17, 9:41 AM
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    if it goes to court I feel I would have a reasonable case with enough witnesses to my claims would you not agree
    The small claims court is a lottery for both you and the PPC. It's Russian Roulette - three chambers charged, three empty.

    Depends whether you get a judge who's got out of bed on the wrong side, or one with a smiley face, freshly spanked and brandied up.
    NEWBIES - wise up - DO NOT IGNORE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE - you have been warned!

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Please note: I am NOT involved in any 'paid for' appeals service.
    • Asherz88
    • By Asherz88 18th Mar 17, 9:45 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 9:45 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 9:45 AM
    Ok well thank you for your help if this does go to court I will be sure to let you know.
    Thanks again for your help
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 18th Mar 17, 9:46 AM
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    Ok well thank you for your help if this does go to court I will be sure to let you know.
    Thanks again for your help
    Originally posted by Asherz88
    If it goes to court, come back on this thread and we will help you in defending it.
    NEWBIES - wise up - DO NOT IGNORE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE - you have been warned!

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Please note: I am NOT involved in any 'paid for' appeals service.
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 18th Mar 17, 10:41 AM
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    The small claims court is a lottery for both you and the PPC. It's Russian Roulette - three chambers charged, three empty.

    You say that Umko, but who is a judge more likely to believe, a hard working lowly paid health care worker, or a lying cheating scammer who preys on the vulnerable?
    Last edited by The Deep; 18-03-2017 at 11:18 AM.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 18th Mar 17, 1:44 PM
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    The small claims court is a lottery for both you and the PPC. It's Russian Roulette - three chambers charged, three empty.

    You say that Umko, but who is a judge more likely to believe, a hard working lowly paid health care worker, or a lying cheating scammer who preys on the vulnerable?
    Originally posted by The Deep
    Logic says so, I agree, but we've seen too many cases that have flown in the face of logic to be giving the OP soothing - don't worry everything will be just fine - messages. Best he's prepared - with eyes wide open.

    And it's not a simple case of a wash, shave and smart suit, then prostrate yourself before the Judge relying on your 'honesty'. There's so much work to do before you even get to the courtroom, as you know.
    NEWBIES - wise up - DO NOT IGNORE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE - you have been warned!

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Please note: I am NOT involved in any 'paid for' appeals service.
    • RadHimster
    • By RadHimster 27th Mar 17, 8:50 AM
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    You can have a flick through my very similar story. Do a search for : Hospital PCN

    Did you not consider that he said he would get your charge 'squashed' (I think you mean quashed) in order to slide away from having a stand-up confrontation with you? It's a standard PPC method of handling such situations.
    I see what you're saying but would argue if they want to enforce these 'fines' they shouldn't be lying to consumers and amending the terms. If you'd been calm and approachable throughout then you'd have no reason to doubt their words.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 27th Mar 17, 10:22 AM
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    You can have a flick through my very similar story. Do a search for : Hospital PCN



    I see what you're saying but would argue if they want to enforce these 'fines' they shouldn't be lying to consumers and amending the terms. If you'd been calm and approachable throughout then you'd have no reason to doubt their words.
    Originally posted by RadHimster
    I'm afraid I live in the real world.
    NEWBIES - wise up - DO NOT IGNORE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE - you have been warned!

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Please note: I am NOT involved in any 'paid for' appeals service.
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