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    • blackcloud
    • By blackcloud 17th Mar 17, 3:18 PM
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    Anyone had a sucessful ESA50 without GP supporting letter/documents?
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    • 17th Mar 17, 3:18 PM
    Anyone had a sucessful ESA50 without GP supporting letter/documents? 17th Mar 17 at 3:18 PM
    Hello all

    Hoping someone can help.

    I am just wondering if anyone had ever submitted an ESA50 and been put in the support group without any evidence from their GP and been sucessful? As I have a new GP and wrote me a letter but basically said as I was new to the surgery they cant comment on my current conditions but can see from my notes I was diagnoised with x y and z.

    I do have other medical evidence from specialists. I am just wondering wether it would be better to leave out my GPs letter or to still include it?

    What are peoples thoughts?

    Thanks in Advance!!!
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    • tazwhoever
    • By tazwhoever 17th Mar 17, 4:25 PM
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    Send all clinical letters from hospital and if GP writes one include that too. It's not necessary to include GP letter.
    • Penitent
    • By Penitent 17th Mar 17, 4:27 PM
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    They seem to favour evidence from specialists over GPs anyway, so I don't think it would make a significant difference if the GP were just to confirm diagnoses, current medications, etc. and leave the specifics of how your condition affects you to the specialists.

    With regards to getting into the support group, that would depend entirely on whether you meet the criteria and whether the evidence you send/the WCA confirms you meet those criteria. You don't specifically need a GP letter for this.
    • Tommo1980
    • By Tommo1980 18th Mar 17, 8:17 AM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 8:17 AM
    It's a bonus if you can get any sort of letter from your GP, certainly not a prerequisite for a successful application. I just sent a repeat prescription form listing medication.

    Definitely send the letter though.

    Tom
    • Newly retired
    • By Newly retired 18th Mar 17, 9:31 AM
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    Keep copies of all you send, you don't want to lose the originals.
    • blackcloud
    • By blackcloud 18th Mar 17, 2:39 PM
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    Thanks all, has anyone ever been put in the support group without a face to face medical just based on the ESA50 with any documents from the GP?
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 18th Mar 17, 2:58 PM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 2:58 PM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 2:58 PM
    Thanks all, has anyone ever been put in the support group without a face to face medical just based on the ESA50 with any documents from the GP?
    Originally posted by blackcloud
    I was kept in the Support Group last year without another ESA assessment. I sent all evidence i had which was, multiple Consultant letters. No GP letter because didn't have any. As has already been said you don't have to send in a letter from your GP, Consultant letters are better. Either way you'll need evidence to support your claim to show you meet the criteria.
    • tazwhoever
    • By tazwhoever 18th Mar 17, 5:55 PM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 5:55 PM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 5:55 PM
    Totally agree with 'poppy12345' and from my own experience - specialists letters count more than GP.

    As DM can override medical letters (esp) GP, can they also override hospital consultants?
    • nannytone
    • By nannytone 18th Mar 17, 6:02 PM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 6:02 PM
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    • 18th Mar 17, 6:02 PM
    i had an assessment and was put into the WRAG.

    i was then moved into the support group without an assessment or a new ESA50.

    i think it was because my DLA rate changed and i now meet one of the support group descriptors ( evidence sent with DLA form supported this)
    • poppy12345
    • By poppy12345 18th Mar 17, 7:01 PM
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    Totally agree with 'poppy12345' and from my own experience - specialists letters count more than GP.

    As DM can override medical letters (esp) GP, can they also override hospital consultants?
    Originally posted by tazwhoever
    Of course they can overide Consultant letters.
    • tazwhoever
    • By tazwhoever 18th Mar 17, 7:25 PM
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    Of course they can overide Consultant letters.
    Originally posted by poppy12345
    I'm sure it will be a battle overriding consultants letters by DM!

    That's probably why most decisions are changed at tribunals.
    • Muttleythefrog
    • By Muttleythefrog 18th Mar 17, 7:59 PM
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    Thanks all, has anyone ever been put in the support group without a face to face medical just based on the ESA50 with any documents from the GP?
    Originally posted by blackcloud
    It is possible... but for a new claim I would say unlikely. I would think you'd need good supporting evidence relevant to descriptors to avoid further scrutiny in the first instance. I was put into support group after f2f assessment back around start 2010.. and have only had paper reviews since.
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