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    • Bryando
    • By Bryando 17th Mar 17, 8:33 AM
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    Hi,

    I have recently attended induction where I was shown around and had paperwork for a new job. Not a mention in the contract about induction being paid or unpaid. Can I legally expect paid for this?
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    • marliepanda
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    Hi,

    I have recently attended induction where I was shown around and had paperwork for a new job. Not a mention in the contract about induction being paid or unpaid. Can I legally expect paid for this?
    Originally posted by Bryando
    Induction is usually paid. It has been at every job I've ever worked.

    However, it's always best to ask.
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    • Mr.Generous
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    If you went in for an hour to complete paperwork I would guess unpaid, If it was done during a normal work shift pattern then expect pay. I wouldn't make a fuss about it unless you incurred huge expenses or something.
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    The fuss would be giving my time for nothing as the company makes millions in profit! Will wait for my probation period to expire then write to the HR folk. Every induction I have been at was paid. But this no mention was made. Never thought about it until I was asked by family.
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    The fuss would be giving my time for nothing as the company makes millions in profit! Will wait for my probation period to expire then write to the HR folk. Every induction I have been at was paid. But this no mention was made. Never thought about it until I was asked by family.
    Originally posted by Bryando

    well was it a pop in to fill in paperwork, provide documents, or was it a full day job shadowing?
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    The fuss would be giving my time for nothing as the company makes millions in profit! Will wait for my probation period to expire then write to the HR folk. Every induction I have been at was paid. But this no mention was made. Never thought about it until I was asked by family.
    Originally posted by Bryando
    You have few legal rights until you have two years employment, your probationary period is largely irrelevant. If you're going to kick up a fuss keep in mind that could see you shown the door.
    • keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
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    Hi,

    I have recently attended induction where I was shown around and had paperwork for a new job. Not a mention in the contract about induction being paid or unpaid. Can I legally expect paid for this?
    Originally posted by Bryando
    Industry could be factor.

    I think I've mostly been paid (often worst case is reduced hours hence less pay then expected clearly) except a home Carer position for 5 days induction and first 3 shifts but I'll admit even that is going back some 5 years.

    I second asking.
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    The fuss would be giving my time for nothing as the company makes millions in profit! Will wait for my probation period to expire then write to the HR folk. Every induction I have been at was paid. But this no mention was made. Never thought about it until I was asked by family.
    Originally posted by Bryando
    So there is nothing so far to indicate that the induction time will not be paid? What's your problem? If you think you have been underpaid when you receive your first pay, that is the time to start complaining.
    If you're going into a job already assuming they are going to shaft you it's not a very good start.
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    You need to wind your neck in a bit or you wont be gettingaid at all, you,ll be claimind dole money
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    • anamenottaken
    • By anamenottaken 18th Mar 17, 8:28 PM
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    Hi,

    I have recently attended induction where I was shown around and had paperwork for a new job. Not a mention in the contract about induction being paid or unpaid. Can I legally expect paid for this?
    Originally posted by Bryando

    Did the paperwork include your contract/written particulars of your employment? What does it say about your start date - before or after induction?
    • nimbo
    • By nimbo 18th Mar 17, 8:42 PM
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    I'd imagine it could partly be down to how long an induction.

    I've been in to new work places before where it's been around 2 hours handing over paperwork and being shown round and introduced to other workers. I wasn't paid for this. Very informal session.

    I've done a 2 week full time induction before and was paid.

    My expectations personally would depend on the circumstances To a degree.

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    • takman
    • By takman 20th Mar 17, 10:41 AM
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    The fuss would be giving my time for nothing as the company makes millions in profit! Will wait for my probation period to expire then write to the HR folk. Every induction I have been at was paid. But this no mention was made. Never thought about it until I was asked by family.
    Originally posted by Bryando


    If your waiting till after your probation period so you can't easily be fired for kicking up a fuss then your going to have to wait until you have been there for two years. That's when your real employement rights kick in.


    So making a complaint about a couple of hours missing pay from two years ago if going to look very strange...
    • dcouponzzzz
    • By dcouponzzzz 20th Mar 17, 11:50 AM
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    Many companies that make millions per year do so because they trim the expenses well, in areas such as unpaid inductions. It has no bearing on whether you'll be paid for it, and the mindset of 'they have money so they must be generous with it' is a very immature one.
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    • aife
    • By aife 20th Mar 17, 12:23 PM
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    Industry could be factor.

    I think I've mostly been paid (often worst case is reduced hours hence less pay then expected clearly) except a home Carer position for 5 days induction and first 3 shifts but I'll admit even that is going back some 5 years.

    I second asking.
    Originally posted by keepcalmandstayoutofdebt
    Am I reading this correctly ? You worked eight days without pay ?!! Who was the employer ?
    • Fireflyaway
    • By Fireflyaway 20th Mar 17, 8:37 PM
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    I've always been paid for inductions because they have taken place after the official start date. Did you pop in prior to starting or was it after your official start date?
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