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    • gettingready
    • By gettingready 16th Mar 17, 4:08 PM
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    Police ringing my doorbell when visiting my neighbour
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    • 16th Mar 17, 4:08 PM
    Police ringing my doorbell when visiting my neighbour 16th Mar 17 at 4:08 PM
    A strange one I know but maybe someone can advise?

    I live on a ground floor in a house conversion, there are 2 flats above me.

    Police has been coming to one of the neighbours every day since Sunday and they keep on ringing my bell and then barging past me saying they have to go upstairs.

    Person they want to see is deaf/hard of hearing BUT has own specially adapted doorbell outside communal door so I see no reason at all for the Police to keep on calling mine.

    This is nothing criminal so no worry here as such but I am fed up with being disturbed as this is a situation that is likely to go on for ages (complicated, ongoing issue).

    Today again my doorbell rang, my dog went psycho (which I hate), I went out into communal hallway to the front door and again the Police and again I am telling them they are ringing wrong doorbell but they just barge past me and go upstairs.

    I am on ground floor but can not see from the window who is it ringing the doorbell so can not ignore it really.

    How can I make them stop ringing my doorbell when the issue upstairs is nothing to do with me.

    Any idea?
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    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 18th Mar 17, 9:20 AM
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    Neighbour upstairs is normally expecting them/waiting for them to turn up but it takes maybe a minute to get down from second floor and they wait maybe 5 sec and ring my doorbell.
    Originally posted by gettingready
    If you keep letting them in they'll keep ringing your bell. Next time they do it explain the tenant upstairs is slow to answer the doorbell because of the stairs and ask them to wait rather than ring your bell.
    Don't harass a hippie. You'll get bad karma.
    • Pollycat
    • By Pollycat 18th Mar 17, 9:24 AM
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    If you keep letting them in they'll keep ringing your bell. Next time they do it explain the tenant upstairs is slow to answer the doorbell because of the stairs and ask them to wait rather than ring your bell.
    Originally posted by Norman Castle
    I get the impression that the police - once they've gained access - don't wait to talk:
    Police has been coming to one of the neighbours every day since Sunday and they keep on ringing my bell and then barging past me saying they have to go upstairs.
    Originally posted by gettingready
    • ThumbRemote
    • By ThumbRemote 18th Mar 17, 9:59 AM
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    Ring the 'station' ????
    You are having a laugh...........
    Dixon of Dock Green days are long gone.
    Originally posted by firefox1956
    Where exactly do you think police officers are based nowadays? They still have police stations, details are likely to be on their local police website, including the name of the Inspector with responsibility for it.
    • Mr.Generous
    • By Mr.Generous 18th Mar 17, 10:13 AM
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    Where exactly do you think police officers are based nowadays? They still have police stations, details are likely to be on their local police website, including the name of the Inspector with responsibility for it.
    Originally posted by ThumbRemote
    However I would imagine that the call would be given zero focus, they would fob you off with various tactics all call handlers learn and it would achieve nothing apart from increasing your frustration next time they rang your bell.

    I made an appointment to collect property from the police station, I had the name and number of the officer dealing, I had a description of the property, was told where it would be left, had my ID etc - guess what? Given the run around and kept waiting for ages while they looked, tried to contact officer dealing, insisted it wasn't there etc. They don't value anyone else's time the way they value police time.

    I am intrigued as to exactly what none criminal matter they are spending so much time and effort on. Cheshire police usually fob you off when you call to report stuff, the worst one for me was when youths were starting a fire against the porch of a primary school and they said there was no-one free to help me when I rang 999!
    • Lord Baltimore
    • By Lord Baltimore 18th Mar 17, 2:58 PM
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    If the police used the correct bell why would that mean a risk of distress to the hard-of-hearing person?
    Of course, they're getting help - 5 police officers are coming through the door.

    It's not about assisting the police or helping a hard of hearing neighbour or even being nice.
    The police have a perfectly good way of getting access to this person without disturbing the OP - they're just not using it.
    Originally posted by Pollycat
    I don't know. Perhaps they feel the slow response indicates a possible problem? Perhaps the hard of hearing person has a hearing assist device that they might remove every now and then? I would just be very wary about not assisting a person with a known disability simply because it's a little bit inconvenient for me every once in a while.

    My comment about helping someone who might be in distress was meant more generally. If the police or fire or ambulance wanted access to a property and I could help, I would do so.

    I see the emergency services as being on my side; hopefully if I don't answer my door some day a kindly neighbour will take an interest. It might save a life.

    Too full of their own self importance to wait.
    Originally posted by Mr.Generous
    Or maybe there is more to this than meets your Mr unGenerous eye?

    I can't see what's such a big deal about answering a door.
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    • gettingready
    • By gettingready 18th Mar 17, 3:50 PM
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    Thanks for all responses.

    The person they are coming to see is not elderly or physically disabled ie movement is not affected, actually much younger than me and is not slow on purpose but there are extra 3 flights of stairs. Police are very well aware of it as they are here quite often, this is an ongoing issue.And the person is called before they turn up anyway. So expecting them.

    No, not criminal and nobody in here is at any risk so this is not the same as assisting anyone in emergency - which I would have no problem doing.

    I have a large dog that barks with the doorbell. If anyone is visiting me I ask them to call my mobile rather than doorbell so my doorbell is only used by delivery people really to minimise the dog barking.

    They do not ask or say thanks - they just barge past me and I guess this is what I feel is wrong. As I said, not an emergency in any shape or form. And yes, it was 5 of them last time and I was very close to asking them if they really have nothing better to do for at least 3 of them as 1-2 would be enough for the issue.
    Last edited by gettingready; 18-03-2017 at 4:17 PM.
    • gettingready
    • By gettingready 18th Mar 17, 3:53 PM
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    I can't see what's such a big deal about answering a door.
    Originally posted by Lord Baltimore
    And that is fine, for you. For me it is an issue to be bothered like that few days in a row.

    It seems to have stopped now. Till it happens again as I know it will. Just not sure when.
    • Rosemary7391
    • By Rosemary7391 18th Mar 17, 4:02 PM
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    I think I'd be quite annoyed at my neighbours being regularly disturbed on my behalf, particularly when I'd made arrangements (appropriate doorbell) to be able to do what was required myself.

    Gettingready - do they physically barge past or just ignore you talking to them? If the latter, I'd be only opening the door enough to talk to them and standing such that they couldn't get in until they'd explained why they kept bothering me when there was no need.
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    • gettingready
    • By gettingready 18th Mar 17, 4:16 PM
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    I will leave it now (emailed local Police station - no reply) but when it starts again (and it will) - will then really make a massive complaint.

    Thanks everyone
    • Lord Baltimore
    • By Lord Baltimore 18th Mar 17, 6:20 PM
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    They do not ask or say thanks - they just barge past me and I guess this is what I feel is wrong.
    Originally posted by gettingready
    I shouldn't think the police have time to spend tugging their fore locks and passing the time of day with pleasantries. They want to get on with their job and they know you don't appreciate their presence (you will when you need them of course).

    You do know that the police spend their working lives under threat and it is reasonable to expect law-abiding people like yourself to support them even if it's a little bit inconvenient.

    It's also not their fault that your dog goes off on one when the bell rings; after all, that is one of the reasons you have a dog isn't it?

    You can't make a 'massive complaint' around the premise that they ring your bell Or even that they push your buttons...
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    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 18th Mar 17, 6:22 PM
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    It seems there must be some good reason the police are attending in such numbers, in seemingly such a hurry. You've said it's not criminal.
    You've said it's not physical .

    So what is it? A neighbour problem?

    With police resources at breaking point right now, why would they give so much
    attention to a non problem?

    Is this person vulnerable and hence why the police are in such a hurry?
    Have you considered there's something you aren't aware of?
    Something doesn't add up in your explanation.
    Last edited by hollydays; 18-03-2017 at 6:34 PM.
    • gettingready
    • By gettingready 18th Mar 17, 7:39 PM
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    It seems there must be some good reason the police are attending in such numbers, in seemingly such a hurry. You've said it's not criminal.
    You've said it's not physical .
    Originally posted by hollydays
    Where did I say that? I said it is not criminal and that it is not emergency "they have to get in" type.


    Something doesn't add up in your explanation.
    Originally posted by hollydays

    I am not going to go into details as would not want the neighbour to be identified - this is a public forum.

    The thread is not about "what is going on upstairs", thanks.

    It is sorted now - till it happens again.
    Last edited by gettingready; 18-03-2017 at 7:43 PM.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 18th Mar 17, 8:03 PM
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    Where did I say that? I said it is not criminal and that it is not emergency "they have to get in" type.





    I am not going to go into details as would not want the neighbour to be identified - this is a public forum.

    The thread is not about "what is going on upstairs", thanks.

    It is sorted now - till it happens again.
    Originally posted by gettingready

    Well , if it's not criminal, it's not physical , that was me paraphrasing , and no that wasn't your exact words so I apologise . I think you said no one is at risk .

    Clearly your issue IS because there's something going on upstairs.
    I too would want to assist the police because the quicker they sort this problem out , the sooner they can be off dealing with the urgent stuff.
    You are strangely evasive though.
    Good luck with it.
    Last edited by hollydays; 18-03-2017 at 8:18 PM.
    • Norman Castle
    • By Norman Castle 18th Mar 17, 8:07 PM
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    It seems there must be some good reason the police are attending in such numbers
    Originally posted by hollydays
    A friend was recently visited twice by the same small team. No reason for it. They travel together in a police van. She asked two of them in and the other two waited outside. Might be a combination of a lack of vehicles and needing a group of officers ready for incidents.
    Don't harass a hippie. You'll get bad karma.
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 18th Mar 17, 8:10 PM
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    A friend was recently visited twice by the same small team. No reason for it. They travel together in a police van. She asked two of them in and the other two waited outside. Might be a combination of a lack of vehicles and needing a group of officers ready for incidents.
    Originally posted by Norman Castle
    Yes but running up all those flights of stairs... nah..
    • gettingready
    • By gettingready 18th Mar 17, 8:23 PM
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    You are strangely evasive though.
    Originally posted by hollydays
    Because although I know the details it is not my business and neither is it yours.

    It is a private matter between my neighbour and the Police and I just simply do not wish to be involved in any shape or form and by ringing my bell to get inside I am forced to be involved.

    Regardless of what the reason is for their visits - this is nothing to do with me. It really is that simple.
    • GDB2222
    • By GDB2222 18th Mar 17, 8:37 PM
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    If it were me, I would open the door a crack and ask the police not to ring my bell again.

    I very much doubt they would just manhandle the OP aside if she were holding onto the door and blocking their route. But, having had her say briefly, she should let them in.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 18th Mar 17, 8:45 PM
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    Get some velcro and something like a battery operated baby alarm... and when they ring you can speak to them as it'll be like an intercom "Hello - is that the police ringing?" "Yes it is" "Farq off"
    • gettingready
    • By gettingready 18th Mar 17, 8:56 PM
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    As I said, I am happy to assist in any emergency but this is not, not them coming here as they only come after talking to the neighbour so neighbour is expecting them. There is nothing that I personally can do to help them (or the neighbour) which makes those visits a nuisance from my point of view.

    It really is that simple.

    Leaving it for now as situation got sorted - no idea for how long but have not seen them Friday or today so hoping it will be a while before it happens again. But has a potential of going on and off for another 7 years.. sighhh
    • hollydays
    • By hollydays 18th Mar 17, 9:19 PM
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    I never open my door without the chain on. It's basic safety, next time it might not be the police pushing past you.
    Last edited by hollydays; 18-03-2017 at 9:26 PM.
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