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    • OneInTheHat
    • By OneInTheHat 16th Mar 17, 9:08 AM
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    OneInTheHat
    Demonising Diesel - should I get rid of my Diesel or stick with it
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    • 16th Mar 17, 9:08 AM
    Demonising Diesel - should I get rid of my Diesel or stick with it 16th Mar 17 at 9:08 AM
    I am very !!!!ed off (to put it mildly) with the government announcements around diesel cars. I have a 2014 diesel Volvo which I love. I live in London and I do drive into central London in the congestion charging zone. My congestion charge will be doubling. Though my council is yet to announce that they will penalise me - I understand Merton council is levying an extra charge on diesel cars for parking permits and I am sure my council won't be far behind them. It seems they will use every method to squeeze more money out of me. I even heard that some areas are going to ban diesels!

    I only bought a diesel as at the time, the government incentivised me to do so!

    I've seen they may propose some sort of scrappage scheme (the £3500 bandied around) but I'm not a low earner and if it was means tested, it's unlikely to apply to me and my car is worth around £16k!

    As mentioned, I'm not a car person and a bit unsure what to do now. Apparently all these announcements are destroying the market for 2nd hand diesels so I'm unlikely to achieve a good price. Do I just suck it up and therefore pay more and hope that they don't decide to ban diesels completely from London? Or should I sell now while I can and accept that at least I will be getting something rather than a lot less should any more decisions to impact diesels be taken?
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    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 17th Mar 17, 8:27 AM
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    typical car owner.

    Buys a brand new diesel car over a petrol for £20K because they could save £300 per annum on fuel.

    Then wants to sell said diesel which they bought for £20K becauce the residents parking and road tax is going up £100 a year.
    Originally posted by seatbeltnoob
    The vast majority of car owners will buy a car without fully thinking it through, there are so many factors to consider that most end up buying based on input from their friends/family............. What else could possibly explain someone buying a Fiat?
    Having the last word isn't the same as being right.......

    "Never confuse education with intelligence"
    • Bonniepurple
    • By Bonniepurple 19th Mar 17, 4:32 PM
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    Bonniepurple
    Stick with it. I'm a diesel owner and whilst I would probably buy petrol next time (due to my mileage patterns nowadays), I'm not going to start swapping cars on the strength of the latest concerns.

    You say you bought a diesel because you were incentivised to do so. You've had the benefit of the lower tax and better economy (perhaps) that were presumably the benefits you saw when you purchased it?

    I don't have much sympathy with the argument that the government is to blame for your purchasing decision. I don't know many people that slavishly buy cars of the type the government tells them to, and the knowledge and data of diesel emissions is not exactly new. Harmful emission types and levels from diesels have been known about for years and it was foreseeable that at some point, they would become a problem. We've had the economic benefit from diesel ownership (despite knowing of the environmental effects of diesel consumption), so now it's time to pay some of that back if we want to improve the air quality levels in towns and cities.
    Originally posted by Aylesbury Duck
    Exactly this. I changed from petrol to diesel 9 years ago because my mileage was approx 15k, mainly motorway miles. My circumstances have changed and my car is now used very much for short hops - so when it's time to replace it I will look at a petrol. It may be that we have one petrol (town car) and one diesel (distance car) - or I may well have given up on the (diesel) train being on time and drive down the M5 to work....
    • Alice Holt
    • By Alice Holt 19th Mar 17, 5:45 PM
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    Alice Holt
    I'd be inclined to stick with it, particularly if you are otherwise happy with the car and it suits your needs.

    Changing a vehicle is an expensive business, the less frequently done the less the financial drain.
    If you have environmental concerns I could understand, or even if your were downshifting / changing it for a s/h electric car such as:

    http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510308287820?sort=price-asc&fuel-type=Electric&postcode=sn11he&onesearchad=Used&one searchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&radius=1500& advertising-location=at_cars&make=RENAULT&model=FLUENCE&page=1
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