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    • Whodowhatnow
    • By Whodowhatnow 15th Mar 17, 7:16 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 7:16 PM
    County court business centre 15th Mar 17 at 7:16 PM
    Hi

    I recieved a PCN in January last year, i was in a company car and the PCN was sent to my bosses address
    To avoid my boss getting greaf i wrote to the parking company giving them my address.

    After researching what to do next i decided to ignore the other two letters i received, 10 months after my last letter i have now been sent a claim form from County Court Business Centre.

    Do i just pay up or fight this?
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    • Redx
    • By Redx 15th Mar 17, 7:18 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 7:18 PM
    that is your choice to make, nobody elses

    assuming you wish to fight it , see post #2 of the NEWBIES sticky thread

    and if you are wondering on your "chances of winning" , NOBODY can tell you that answer , court is a lottery and many factors can influence judges

    anyone who tells you that you have a good chance of winning is a fool , as are you if you listen to them

    even the best arguments can fail, ask BARRY BEAVIS (or google him)
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 15th Mar 17, 7:25 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 7:25 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 7:25 PM
    Which parking company (and is any solicitor involved)? This will help us give you a better idea how this might play out.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Whodowhatnow
    • By Whodowhatnow 15th Mar 17, 7:33 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 7:33 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 7:33 PM
    Cheers for the replys

    Claimant is Vehicle control services ltd Sheffield

    Address for sending documents and payment is BW Legal in Leeds

    I just received the letter today, and was after a heads up where to start. I will be spending Saturday trawling the internet and scratching my head.
    I don't mind having a day in court but iv'e admitted it was me who parked without payment, just think asking £70 then £100 for 6 mins is a bit steep. It's now £237 with the other add ons

    Thanks
    Last edited by Whodowhatnow; 15-03-2017 at 7:37 PM.
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 15th Mar 17, 7:38 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 7:38 PM
    The place to start is the NEWBIES sticky as per Redx's post. You'll need to tackle this seriously, it won't go away unless you hit back hard, and even then it might take the Judge to help you.
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Redx
    • By Redx 15th Mar 17, 9:46 PM
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    just think asking £70 then £100 for 6 mins is a bit steep. It's now £237 with the other add ons

    Thanks
    Originally posted by Whodowhatnow
    the SUPREME COURT does not agree with you, check the BARRY BEAVIS case 16 months ago (3 courts , 11 judges , lost 3 times) , so whilst it may be "a bit steep" , it is not UNCONCIONABLE

    so you definitely will not get away with that argument, even though he was on a free car park and yours was a pay and display car park

    and as the driver has been admitted , the usual defence of FAILED TO MEET POFA2012 in the paperwork wont work either

    you may win on a different legal point , but not those 2 above unless you can prove the "excessive" charge is a penalty

    more likely that you might win on NO CONTRACT and POOR and/or INADEQUATE SIGNAGE etc
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 15th Mar 17, 9:52 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 9:52 PM
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    • 15th Mar 17, 9:52 PM
    Hi

    I recieved a PCN in January last year, i was in a company car and the PCN was sent to my bosses address
    To avoid my boss getting greaf i wrote to the parking company giving them my address.

    After researching what to do next i decided to ignore the other two letters i received, 10 months after my last letter i have now been sent a claim form from County Court Business Centre.

    Do i just pay up or fight this?
    Originally posted by Whodowhatnow
    It's now £237 with the other add ons
    It will be zero when you win at your hearing.

    I can tell you 99% win here. I can recall ONE lost in 2016 v BW Legal but the person had not followed forum advice in full and struggled to understand the issues, as far as I could see. Everyone else has won; we've helped with hundreds of defences.

    So your chances are FAR better than you imagine. You can do this is you research it here on this forum - please, don't 'trawl the internet', please don't. You will find old advice and random stuff that will not help you one bit.

    Read post #2 of the NEWBIES thread. Acknowledge the claim, as explained there, then put a defence together and show us the draft.

    Don't ask for a link to the NEWBIES thread please. The clue is in my signature below...
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 15-03-2017 at 9:55 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the trail, top of this page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

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