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    • gem871
    • By gem871 14th Mar 17, 4:00 PM
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    Retreatment Root Canal
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    • 14th Mar 17, 4:00 PM
    Retreatment Root Canal 14th Mar 17 at 4:00 PM
    Hi guys,

    So this morning I went to the dentist with toothache, turns out that the RCT i had done 2 years ago has got infected again.

    My dentist said she will try and do me a referral so I can have it done on NHS but if they refuse which they might well do it could cost me £700-800 private!!!

    Theres no way I can afford that, I'm pregnant and have a low income!

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks
    Gemma
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    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 14th Mar 17, 4:04 PM
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    Have it out?

    Re-treatments have a lesser chance of success than first time, although having it done by a specialist would be the best chance given that it's a re-treatment.

    Getting NHS funding for this is highly unlikely though.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
    • gem871
    • By gem871 15th Mar 17, 2:36 PM
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    I can't have it out-- its at the front of my mouth. :-(
    • Toothsmith
    • By Toothsmith 15th Mar 17, 11:18 PM
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    This may be an incorrect assumption. Apologies if it is. But if you're expecting, I'm assuming you're in you 20s or early 30s?

    If you have a front tooth that is requiring a second root filling, it is highly unlikely that this tooth will last you that much longer anyway. If it was an injury that caused the tooth to die - then how old were you when that happened? The younger you were - the poorer the long-term chances for the tooth are. If the tooth death was caused by it needing repeated, or big fillings - then have the issues that caused that decay been brought under control now - or do you still find you need fillings each time you go to the dentist? If your teeth are still decaying, then having money spent by you, or the state on your behalf, to save that tooth will probably just be a waste anyway.

    If this was some sort of accident that killed the tooth, then it might be possible to get referred to the Oral Surgery department of your local hospital to have a procedure called an apicectomy. A simple surgical procedure that is sometimes appropriate for retreating a failed root filling.

    This technique is a little less 'in favour' these days, but used to be done routinely. If appropriate, this would be done by your NHS oral surgery department, and so not cost you anything.

    It's worth asking the question to your dentist - but as they are the one who know your case best (I have no idea what's going on with you) be guided by them.

    But - I think you should face up to the likelihood that whichever way treatment goes, you will probably not have that tooth for many more years. There are various ways it could be replaced, some of which will be available on the NHS, some of which won't.

    It is worth having a chat with your dentist about these soon - as it could well be that tooth out and some sort of replacement is your best option.
    How to find a dentist.
    1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
    2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
    3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
    4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.
    • abc987
    • By abc987 18th Mar 17, 4:17 PM
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    I can't have it out-- its at the front of my mouth. :-(
    Originally posted by gem871
    I know what you mean, with it being a front tooth.
    How old are you?

    Nhs probably won't fund the root canal, and the 2nd time around it has less chance of being successful.
    If really want to give it a go, beg and borrow the money and then find a dentist who has a micrscope to do the root canal.

    https://www.britishendodonticsociety.org.uk/patients/find_consultant.php

    Are there good reasons for NOT having a root canals.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcjQacnFzfQ

    Dr. Hal Huggins - who first raised concerns about the dangers of mercury in fillings.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8EjEOqYEYs&t=1s
    • brook2jack
    • By brook2jack 18th Mar 17, 6:42 PM
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    It goes to say the views about root treatments and Hal Huggins views are not the views of the vast majority of dentists and scientists.

    Hal Huggins has had a very checkered career and made a great deal of money out of "mercury free" practice . His claims have led to many court cases and to his being struck off https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/huggins.html

    More particularly his claims about cures for MS , ALS, cancer etc have caused a great deal of misery and expense to many.

    The views of Mercola, Weston Price etc about root canal also have no mainstream support , or general scientific support http://www.endoruddle.com/blogs/show/18/quack-watch-keeping-your-patients-informed
    Last edited by brook2jack; 18-03-2017 at 6:45 PM.
    • abc987
    • By abc987 20th Mar 17, 1:37 PM
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    Hal Huggins has had a very checkered career and made a great deal of money out of "mercury free" practice . [/url]
    Originally posted by brook2jack
    When he was replacing the mercury fillings, what was he using instead to fill the tooth?
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