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    • beth222
    • By beth222 14th Mar 17, 2:51 PM
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    New job and JSA
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    • 14th Mar 17, 2:51 PM
    New job and JSA 14th Mar 17 at 2:51 PM
    I'm about to start a part time job at 15 per week at £7.20 which works out at £435 a month . Now I receive HS and CTB plus £140 JSA per fortnight. My question is will my JSA be reduced or will I be allowed to keep it all thank you.
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    • Bogalot
    • By Bogalot 16th Mar 17, 6:30 PM
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    I'm making a point. if your allowed to keep your benefit on ESA then the same rule applies on JSA. my friend who started working for a cleaning co keeps her JSA and still gets a wage and pay slips.
    Originally posted by beth222
    No, the same rules do not apply.

    Is this a wind up?
    • beth222
    • By beth222 16th Mar 17, 6:32 PM
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    Please do not patronise me. I know what I am talking about and as I've said my friend keeps her JSA and works. its you I'm afraid who is confused and I mean that respectfully.
    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 16th Mar 17, 6:33 PM
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    I'm making a point. if your allowed to keep your benefit on ESA then the same rule applies on JSA. my friend who started working for a cleaning co keeps her JSA and still gets a wage and pay slips.
    Originally posted by beth222
    No. Thats not how it works.

    Seriously if youre not going to listen to people what is the point in posting on here. ESA is for people who have very limited capability for work, so permitted work helps to get them back working whilst keeping their benefits as they are unlikely to ever be able to work full time, or as a ease back into work.

    JSA is for people who can work just fine. Therefore you don't get a bonus for only working 15 hours.

    I don't care what 'your friend' says she gets, its the same rule for everyone.
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    • beth222
    • By beth222 16th Mar 17, 6:34 PM
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    No it isn't. All I'm trying to do is receive the correct information and no one seems to know. if the rules weren't the same as ESA and JSA then that is very very unfair.
    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 16th Mar 17, 6:34 PM
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    Please do not patronise me. I know what I am talking about and as I've said my friend keeps her JSA and works. its you I'm afraid who is confused and I mean that respectfully.
    Originally posted by beth222
    No one is patronising you. They are telling you you havent got a clue, because you dont.

    Either she doesn't work 15 hours at NMW or she is committing fraud

    Nobody really cares about what your friend does, as its either not true, or its fraud. You won't get to do it either, so its irrelevant to you as well.

    Anyway, why are you asking us? Go ask your friend who clearly has all the answers.
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    • Bogalot
    • By Bogalot 16th Mar 17, 6:34 PM
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    Please do not patronise me. I know what I am talking about and as I've said my friend keeps her JSA and works. its you I'm afraid who is confused and I mean that respectfully.
    Originally posted by beth222
    You really don't flower, you don't appear to have the first clue of what you're talking about.

    If you think the different rules are unfair then complain to your MP.
    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 16th Mar 17, 6:35 PM
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    No it isn't. All I'm trying to do is receive the correct information and no one seems to know. if the rules weren't the same as ESA and JSA then that is very very unfair.
    Originally posted by beth222
    Its not unfair. They are different benefits for different scenarios.

    One if for people who are fit to work. One is not.
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    • elsien
    • By elsien 16th Mar 17, 6:39 PM
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    What would be unfair would be people perfectly capable of getting a full time job choosing to only work 15 hours and being subsided by the rest of the workforce.
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
    • Penitent
    • By Penitent 16th Mar 17, 6:41 PM
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    No it isn't. All I'm trying to do is receive the correct information and no one seems to know. if the rules weren't the same as ESA and JSA then that is very very unfair.
    Originally posted by beth222
    Why is it unfair? Permitted work exists to help ill and disabled people back into work. You're (presumably) not ill or disabled and are physically capable of working full time, so you don't need the extra help.

    What's next? "That bloke in the wheelchair gets PIP and I don't. It's not fair, I should get it too." "Why should she get Child Benefit just because she has a kid? Where's mine?"
    • Penitent
    • By Penitent 16th Mar 17, 6:51 PM
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    In all seriousness, though, if you're so sure that you can keep your JSA (and you must be sure, since you're telling everyone they're wrong), why did you bother asking?
    • MHOWARD
    • By MHOWARD 16th Mar 17, 7:46 PM
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    I'm at a loss as to why you are all bothering to reply. It seems like the op is far more smarter than the rest of you and only wants to hear what suits them.
    • Mersey
    • By Mersey 16th Mar 17, 8:15 PM
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    Please do not patronise me. I know what I am talking about and as I've said my friend keeps her JSA and works. its you I'm afraid who is confused and I mean that respectfully.
    Originally posted by beth222


    She must be on UC (to keep benefits and work).


    JSA doesn't allow this.
    Please be polite to OPs and remember this is a site for Claimants and Appellants to seek redress against their bank, ex-boss or retailer. If they wanted morality or the view of the IoD or Bank they'd ask them.
    • Londonsu
    • By Londonsu 16th Mar 17, 8:55 PM
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    In fact a girl I work with is allowed to keep her JSA even though shes working at same place as me and her adviser told her that the wage of £108 per week wouldn't affect her JSA payment as she only 15 hours.
    Originally posted by beth222



    A girl you WORK with?????? yet in your opening post you said I'm about to start a part time job at 15 per week at £7.20 which works out at £435 a month .


    That doesn't make sense sorry
    • beth222
    • By beth222 16th Mar 17, 10:03 PM
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    That's because the girl I started to work with is allowed to keep her JSA. I haven't told them I'm working yet but if she can keep hers then I should be able to keep mine and receive a four weekly wage.
    • beth222
    • By beth222 16th Mar 17, 10:08 PM
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    Your all telling me that your not entitled to JSA but according to this you are...

    https://www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance/eligibility
    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 16th Mar 17, 10:13 PM
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    Your all telling me that your not entitled to JSA but according to this you are...

    https://www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance/eligibility
    Originally posted by beth222
    No one said you couldn't claim!

    We said you wouldn't get the full payment, and it would be deducted up to £5.

    Can you find me a link to say you'll get full JSA whilst working? No...
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    • beth222
    • By beth222 16th Mar 17, 10:19 PM
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    Sorry but I really cannot accept you would only receive £5 when it clearly states you are allowed to work under 16 hours and as long as your still looking for other work you keep your benefit.
    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 16th Mar 17, 10:21 PM
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    Sorry but I really cannot accept you would only receive £5 when it clearly states you are allowed to work under 16 hours and as long as your still looking for other work you keep your benefit.
    Originally posted by beth222
    It clearly states nothing of the sort, but feel free to keep believing that.

    Word of warning, watch your spending for the first few weeks. Because you're not going to be getting as much as you thought.

    Oh and tell them you've started working. Sounds like you're already committing fraud. But I'm sure you'll find some link that vaguely states you can work without telling them you're working because your
    Mams friend said you could.
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    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 16th Mar 17, 10:25 PM
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    Keep feeding , it's hungry
    • Londonsu
    • By Londonsu 16th Mar 17, 10:30 PM
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    That's because the girl I started to work with is allowed to keep her JSA. I haven't told them I'm working yet but if she can keep hers then I should be able to keep mine and receive a four weekly wage.
    Originally posted by beth222

    You haven't told WHO you are working, if you mean the jobcentre you are committing fraud and you opening post was untrue when you said I am JUST about to start a job.


    Sorry crossed posts with Marlie
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