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    • soolin
    • By soolin 13th Mar 17, 8:06 AM
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    Strange BIN offer
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    Strange BIN offer 13th Mar 17 at 8:06 AM
    I have an item up for £22 and received an offer of £13 which I countered offered at £20.

    I then had a second offer from same buyer for £25, so I added a note to the offer saying it was more than the BIN and I am happy with £20 and then formally countered with £20.

    That offer lapsed and now I have received another offer from the same buyer for £28!

    My OH says just accept it and see what happens, but this seems very weird to me , I am going to email the buyer again and explain it is too high, but I wonder would it work, fee wise etc, if I accepted the £28 and then discounted the invoice to £20?

    Any thoughts?

    Incidentally buyer has feedback in single figures (which never bothers me) and has not left any feedback for the sellers. Registered in the UK so there is nothing odd with trying to pay more to ship overseas.
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    • November2
    • By November2 13th Mar 17, 9:17 AM
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    I would just block him from bidding or buying as it's too weird. Maybe he's narked at you not accepting his offer and thinks he's being funny. If you accept his offer he still doesn't have to agree to buy.
    • qsk
    • By qsk 13th Mar 17, 9:21 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 9:21 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 9:21 AM
    If you accept his offer he still doesn't have to agree to buy.
    Originally posted by November2
    Is this true? I thought once an offer is accepted, a contract of purchase is in place.
    • warby68
    • By warby68 13th Mar 17, 9:22 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 9:22 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 9:22 AM
    If they really wanted it surely they'd just BIN?

    I'd ignore.
    • soolin
    • By soolin 13th Mar 17, 9:33 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 9:33 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 9:33 AM
    I would just block him from bidding or buying as it's too weird. Maybe he's narked at you not accepting his offer and thinks he's being funny. If you accept his offer he still doesn't have to agree to buy.
    Originally posted by November2
    If I accept it then the sale is complete and if he doesn't pay I can go through the NPB process.
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    • ballisticbrian
    • By ballisticbrian 13th Mar 17, 9:35 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 9:35 AM
    Maybe a child or someone messing about on a stolen phone trying to work out how to change the address or take delivery.
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    • TKPeters
    • By TKPeters 13th Mar 17, 9:48 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 9:48 AM
    If the offer is still live, pull their detail on advanced search & give them a call.
    I would explain that the item can be theirs for £22 via the BIN
    The only time we have this, is when the buyer wanted express delivery

    • soolin
    • By soolin 13th Mar 17, 11:08 AM
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    Maybe a child or someone messing about on a stolen phone trying to work out how to change the address or take delivery.
    Originally posted by ballisticbrian
    This is not a usually scammed item, in fact it is a vintage collectable likely to appeal to someone more mature in years.

    I suppose I'm just always looking for the scam!.
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    • soolin
    • By soolin 13th Mar 17, 11:13 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 11:13 AM
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    If the offer is still live, pull their detail on advanced search & give them a call.
    I would explain that the item can be theirs for £22 via the BIN
    The only time we have this, is when the buyer wanted express delivery
    Originally posted by TKPeters
    Unfortunately as I haven't yet got a transaction with this buyer all I get if I try that is:

    Unable to access contact information
    Unfortunately, you are unable to access the contact information you requested. This can be due to a number of reasons:

    1. To better protect the privacy of eBay users, you can only request contact information for eBay users who are involved in your recent, successful transactions. Examples are:
    Sellers can request the contact information for the buyer in successfully closed transactions.
    Buyers can request the contact information for a seller in successfully closed transactions.
    2. The item number entered is not associated with the User ID that was entered. View the item you entered and make sure the item number and User ID you entered are correct.

    3. The item number you entered is no longer available. Contact information is only available while the item is accessible on eBay.

    4. The user you are requesting contact information for is an international user. Due to international laws, contact information for international users may be limited.

    If you would like to contact this user, you can send a message via our email forwarding system by clicking on their User ID.
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    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 13th Mar 17, 3:46 PM
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    I would have the feeling they are going to be a PITA, crying after you accept their offer above the BIN price. They slipped and the dog bid on it and then the cat made the 2nd offer..

    Or it could be they do not know how ebay works? Do they have much feedback or been on ebay long?
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    • bxboards
    • By bxboards 14th Mar 17, 8:43 PM
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    I've had this situation today - a 4 figure value item, and someone has put in a Best Offer 50 quid higher than the Buy It Now.

    The only reason i can think is that I have 'immediate payment' required, so maybe they are offering more than the BIN to take it off the market (if I accepted the offer) then could take time over paying, or not pay at all. Seems very fishy as if they need it urgently, the BIN is available and quicker than messy about with funny looking over-value offers!

    I rejected the offer, and told them it was 50 more than the BIN and suggested they use that - but radio silence since then.
    • soolin
    • By soolin 14th Mar 17, 9:36 PM
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    I've had this situation today - a 4 figure value item, and someone has put in a Best Offer 50 quid higher than the Buy It Now.

    The only reason i can think is that I have 'immediate payment' required, so maybe they are offering more than the BIN to take it off the market (if I accepted the offer) then could take time over paying, or not pay at all. Seems very fishy as if they need it urgently, the BIN is available and quicker than messy about with funny looking over-value offers!

    I rejected the offer, and told them it was 50 more than the BIN and suggested they use that - but radio silence since then.
    Originally posted by bxboards
    Is there a strange new game that we sellers are not aware of?

    With mine I emailed the buyer and I still have no reply, so I counter offered and still nothing. Item finished earlier this evening so I have just relisted it and will see what happens now.
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    • ComicGeek
    • By ComicGeek 14th Mar 17, 10:08 PM
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    Or could they send you a fake PayPal email confirming payment of the higher amount, then email you saying that they've realised their mistake and ask for a refund of the difference. But then you would see they haven't paid you when you log into PayPal....
    I'm normally the cynical one, but I can't think of a workable scam here.
    • soolin
    • By soolin 14th Mar 17, 10:35 PM
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    Or could they send you a fake PayPal email confirming payment of the higher amount, then email you saying that they've realised their mistake and ask for a refund of the difference. But then you would see they haven't paid you when you log into PayPal....
    I'm normally the cynical one, but I can't think of a workable scam here.
    Originally posted by ComicGeek
    Not sure how that would work. It would show as unpaid on eBay and also there would be no PayPal payment to part refund against.

    I am struggling to see any workable scam here at all.
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    • mgdavid
    • By mgdavid 15th Mar 17, 12:18 AM
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    Either the 'buyer' is one short of a full deck - or it's some sort of scam.
    Either way I'd simply block them and move on.

    Never let what looks like an easy full-price sale cloud your judgement! (I remind myself of this often).
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    • soolin
    • By soolin 15th Mar 17, 9:00 AM
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    Either the 'buyer' is one short of a full deck - or it's some sort of scam.
    Either way I'd simply block them and move on.

    Never let what looks like an easy full-price sale cloud your judgement! (I remind myself of this often).
    Originally posted by mgdavid
    I've just had an incomprehensible email via ebay messages from 'buyer' , I can't work out if it is someone not used to using English, or just someone who cannot throw a sentence together. It isn't poorly written, I would never criticise anyone for poor spelling as my own is appalling, it is complete nonsense, but the gist appears to be to send invoice (invititicion snece) and they'll pay - but it isn't clear. So blocked and I'll move on.

    User name is a very English sounding name with a number, and I admit to thinking it was someone slightly older using a birth year, but I'm no longer sure. User name is like 'Johnrobsmith41'
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    • ANNA
    • By ANNA 19th Jul 17, 8:11 PM
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    Likewise, I have an item listed for Buy-It-Now or best offer.

    I've received an offer of 1p ABOVE my Buy-It-Now price. The ebayer has low number of feedback and only as a buyer.

    What's going on and how best to proceed?
    • bxboards
    • By bxboards 19th Jul 17, 8:16 PM
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    Likewise, I have an item listed for Buy-It-Now or best offer.

    I've received an offer of 1p ABOVE my Buy-It-Now price. The ebayer has low number of feedback and only as a buyer.

    What's going on and how best to proceed?
    Originally posted by ANNA
    I assume you have 'immediate payment enabled' on your BIN.
    This offer is to get around that - they offer more, hoping you'll accept, but they won't pay. 'immediate payment' isn't active on best offers you see.

    Block them.
    • ANNA
    • By ANNA 19th Jul 17, 8:17 PM
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    So, I have asked her.

    And, just a thought, she may have a voucher with a minimum spend threshold.
    • bxboards
    • By bxboards 19th Jul 17, 8:22 PM
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    I still get offers over BIN, for example item price is 800, I get an offer of 1k.

    I am pretty sure it's European buyers who have not cottoned on the prices are in GBP, not euros as these sort of offers have always seemed to be from Europe.

    But in your case, I think it's to avoid your 'immediate payment required' on your BIN. Voucher is plausible I suppose.
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