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    • marrbett
    • By marrbett 11th Mar 17, 4:15 PM
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    New PC needed
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    • 11th Mar 17, 4:15 PM
    New PC needed 11th Mar 17 at 4:15 PM
    Can I ask you experts for some advice. We need a new pc which is used mainly for surfing and emails. My son also wants to play Minecraft(pc edition) which our current computer's graphics card isn't good enough apparently.

    Our budget is £350, and I wondered if this would fit the requirements?
    https://www.johnlewis.com/hp-slimline-260-a125na-desktop-pc-intel-pentium-8gb-ram-1tb-jack-black/p3161410

    Many thanks for any help
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    • esuhl
    • By esuhl 11th Mar 17, 6:09 PM
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    • 11th Mar 17, 6:09 PM
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    • 11th Mar 17, 6:09 PM
    If your current PC is fast enough for surfing and emails, you could just upgrade the graphics card. Get a secondhand one on eBay for even more savings.
    • boliston
    • By boliston 11th Mar 17, 8:32 PM
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    • 11th Mar 17, 8:32 PM
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    • 11th Mar 17, 8:32 PM
    That does not look like a gaming pc as it has no graphics card, just onboard intel hd graphics - also it has a tiny case so no room for a graphics card (not even a mini tower) and i would be looking at i5 processor as a minimum eg an entry level Intel i5-6400
    • marrbett
    • By marrbett 11th Mar 17, 8:40 PM
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    • 11th Mar 17, 8:40 PM
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    • 11th Mar 17, 8:40 PM
    If your current PC is fast enough for surfing and emails, you could just upgrade the graphics card. Get a secondhand one on eBay for even more savings.
    Originally posted by esuhl
    Thanks, but its an old pc, keeps turning itself off, even when its not been on long, and is so slow and noisy now. So we need a new one.
    • marrbett
    • By marrbett 11th Mar 17, 8:42 PM
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    • 11th Mar 17, 8:42 PM
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    • 11th Mar 17, 8:42 PM
    That does not look like a gaming pc as it has no graphics card, just onboard intel hd graphics - also it has a tiny case so no room for a graphics card (not even a mini tower) and i would be looking at i5 processor as a minimum eg an entry level Intel i5-6400
    Originally posted by boliston
    Is playing Minecraft considered 'gaming'? I mean I know its a game but I thought it meant for the games like Halo etc. Ok, so thanks for that, Are we likely to find a new one with that sort of spec for £350?
    • chunter
    • By chunter 12th Mar 17, 10:17 AM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 10:17 AM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 10:17 AM
    The minimum and recommended specinfications for Minecraft.
    This would seem to be the starting point for any advice.

    Minimum Requirements:
    CPU: Intel Pentium D or AMD Athlon 64 (K8) 2.6 GHz
    RAM: 2GB
    GPU (Integrated): Intel HD Graphics or AMD (formerly ATI) Radeon HD Graphics with OpenGL 2.1
    GPU (Discrete): Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT or AMD Radeon HD 2400 with OpenGL 3.1
    HDD: At least 200MB for Game Core and Other Files
    Java 6 Release 45

    Recommended Requirements:
    CPU: Intel Core i3 or AMD Athlon II (K10) 2.8 GHz
    RAM: 4GB
    GPU: GeForce 2xx Series or AMD Radeon HD 5xxx Series (Excluding Integrated Chipsets) with OpenGL 3.3
    HDD: 1GB
    Latest release of Java 8 from java.com

    https://help.mojang.com/customer/en/portal/articles/325948-minecraft-system-requirements
    Last edited by chunter; 12-03-2017 at 10:20 AM.
    • LadyDee
    • By LadyDee 12th Mar 17, 11:39 AM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 11:39 AM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 11:39 AM
    Thanks, but its an old pc, keeps turning itself off, even when its not been on long, and is so slow and noisy now. So we need a new one.
    Originally posted by marrbett
    Don't assume your PC is dying. My laptop was doing the same and apparently the fan was blocked with dust/cat hair and the heat sink needed some minor attention - I thought I was looking at buying a new laptop but spending a very small amount resulted in my old one being as good as new.

    Of course, your gaming requirements might mean this wouldn't be sufficient.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 12th Mar 17, 9:30 PM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 9:30 PM
    Switching off because the heatsink looks like this....

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    • boliston
    • By boliston 12th Mar 17, 11:14 PM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 11:14 PM
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    • 12th Mar 17, 11:14 PM
    I find opening my pc every few months and giving a good blow through with a hairdryer on "cool" setting removes LOADS of dust! I also have a small paintbrush handy for loosening dust in fans & heatsinks which can then be blow away with the hairdryer.
    • Johnmcl7
    • By Johnmcl7 12th Mar 17, 11:41 PM
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    Zoostorm are generally the best choice for budget desktop PC's, this is probably the best one within budget:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/758530-zoostorm-evolve-desktop-pc-7260-0220

    It only has an integrated graphics card but the AMD onboard graphics are pretty good and also the chassis is fully upgradeable so it would be easy to install a better graphics card later if needed.

    There's also officially refurbished Zoostorm PC's, this one is better and cheaper:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zoostorm-AMD-A10-7850K-Quad-Core-Desktop-PC-2TB-HDD-8GB-RAM-Win-10-WiFi-/262863366336?hash=item3d33e0a8c0:g:N48AAOSwopRYfjn r

    This one is slightly over your budget but has a much better processor and much more powerful graphics:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zoostorm-Core-i5-4460-Quad-Core-Gaming-PC-8GB-RAM-2TB-HDD-GTX-960-Win-8-1-/262865004374?hash=item3d33f9a756:g:IvMAAOSw5cNYNII s#viTabs_0

    John
    • J B
    • By J B 13th Mar 17, 9:02 AM
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    Don't assume your PC is dying .....................
    Originally posted by LadyDee
    Come on ... where's Nifty?
    • no1catman
    • By no1catman 13th Mar 17, 11:44 AM
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    Check out Chillblast as well - flexible with their specs, and score well in comparisons.
    https://www.chillblast.com/
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    • marrbett
    • By marrbett 13th Mar 17, 11:57 AM
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    Check out Chillblast as well - flexible with their specs, and score well in comparisons.
    https://www.chillblast.com/
    Originally posted by no1catman
    We live not too far away from them, so I may go and speak to them and see what they suggest.Thankyou
    • marrbett
    • By marrbett 13th Mar 17, 11:57 AM
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    Zoostorm are generally the best choice for budget desktop PC's, this is probably the best one within budget:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/758530-zoostorm-evolve-desktop-pc-7260-0220

    It only has an integrated graphics card but the AMD onboard graphics are pretty good and also the chassis is fully upgradeable so it would be easy to install a better graphics card later if needed.

    There's also officially refurbished Zoostorm PC's, this one is better and cheaper:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zoostorm-AMD-A10-7850K-Quad-Core-Desktop-PC-2TB-HDD-8GB-RAM-Win-10-WiFi-/262863366336?hash=item3d33e0a8c0:g:N48AAOSwopRYfjn r

    This one is slightly over your budget but has a much better processor and much more powerful graphics:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zoostorm-Core-i5-4460-Quad-Core-Gaming-PC-8GB-RAM-2TB-HDD-GTX-960-Win-8-1-/262865004374?hash=item3d33f9a756:g:IvMAAOSw5cNYNII s#viTabs_0

    John
    Originally posted by Johnmcl7
    Thanks, I really appreciate you taking the time to search for me
    • marrbett
    • By marrbett 13th Mar 17, 11:58 AM
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    Switching off because the heatsink looks like this....

    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    I'll show you a picture when I open it, I'm sure it does look a bit like this !
    • marrbett
    • By marrbett 13th Mar 17, 11:59 AM
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    The minimum and recommended specinfications for Minecraft.
    This would seem to be the starting point for any advice.

    Minimum Requirements:
    CPU: Intel Pentium D or AMD Athlon 64 (K8) 2.6 GHz
    RAM: 2GB
    GPU (Integrated): Intel HD Graphics or AMD (formerly ATI) Radeon HD Graphics with OpenGL 2.1
    GPU (Discrete): Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT or AMD Radeon HD 2400 with OpenGL 3.1
    HDD: At least 200MB for Game Core and Other Files
    Java 6 Release 45

    Recommended Requirements:
    CPU: Intel Core i3 or AMD Athlon II (K10) 2.8 GHz
    RAM: 4GB
    GPU: GeForce 2xx Series or AMD Radeon HD 5xxx Series (Excluding Integrated Chipsets) with OpenGL 3.3
    HDD: 1GB
    Latest release of Java 8 from java.com

    https://help.mojang.com/customer/en/portal/articles/325948-minecraft-system-requirements
    Originally posted by chunter
    Thankyou, I've printed this off and will add it to my list of requirements
    • no1catman
    • By no1catman 13th Mar 17, 3:35 PM
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    We live not too far away from them, so I may go and speak to them and see what they suggest.Thankyou
    Originally posted by marrbett
    Interested to know how you get on.
    My base unit is from them - bought when 'XP' went, replaced with 'windows 7' with more of everything to run it.
    Mental note, must check out how to open it - to vacuum out all the dust that's probably in there.
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    • rmg1
    • By rmg1 13th Mar 17, 4:28 PM
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    Switching off because the heatsink looks like this....

    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    I opened my MILs PC because it was swicthing off after a short period of use.
    The heatsink was furrier than that!
    It was like peeling carpet off it.

    It must have been bad because the heatsink was virtually clean without the use of anything other than fingers.
    Flagellation, necrophilia and bestiality - Am I flogging a dead horse?

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