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    • mnbvcxz
    • By mnbvcxz 10th Mar 17, 10:12 PM
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    Can I trust Paypal Guarantee private purchase?
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    • 10th Mar 17, 10:12 PM
    Can I trust Paypal Guarantee private purchase? 10th Mar 17 at 10:12 PM
    Bit odd but a random fellow in Germany appears to have an iphone lost by my family a while ago.

    He managed to get in touch with us and we compromised that we would pay postage and €50 reward.

    However neither of us trusts the other enough to go first...

    He has suggested paypal would be guaranteed.

    Reading up it does suggest that if we sent the money using the Goods payment option it would be guaranteed if he never sends it.

    Paypals terms and conditions suggest this is true. But also contain a lot of get outs.

    What do people reckon? Is this actually possible. I wouldn't insure a payment form a random person selling other peoples phones, but perhaps paypal really will?

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    • mrcol1000
    • By mrcol1000 10th Mar 17, 10:31 PM
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    • 10th Mar 17, 10:31 PM
    I guess that if he did not provide tracking number then you could claim non delivery. If he sent something that wasn't the iPhone you could claim not as described The problem is that this is not PayPal is really designed for. Really though if you want the phone back and need to pay in advance then PayPal is probably your safest bet. It all sounds a bit dodgy and suspect though.

    If you had brought the phone from him and paid by PayPal then you would be covered for non-delivery and not as described. In fact normally it is the person selling the phone is most at risk of losing out due to a PayPal claim.
    • bxboards
    • By bxboards 13th Mar 17, 6:33 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 6:33 AM
    Offer to pay him the return postage now and the rewards when it arrives with you.

    As the person was honest enough to contact you after finding a valuable item, I think a little trust your side wouldn't go amiss too be honest.
    • mnbvcxz
    • By mnbvcxz 13th Mar 17, 1:00 PM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 1:00 PM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 1:00 PM
    Offer to pay him the return postage now and the rewards when it arrives with you.

    As the person was honest enough to contact you after finding a valuable item, I think a little trust your side wouldn't go amiss too be honest.
    Originally posted by bxboards
    Actually that was our first idea. But as I said he doesn't trust us either. His first idea was 150 euros plus postage which is what he claims to have paid for the phone in some mysterious surplus auction. Which seems slightly unlikely for a three year icloud locked old phone but you never know if could be true. But its just slightly hard to completely trust someone who is basically selling us back our own phone...

    But it is worth less than 50 euros for parts to anyone other than us so it makes sense to make a deal. I may have to chance paypal since no one has pointed out any glaring holes in the plan.
    • theonlywayisup
    • By theonlywayisup 13th Mar 17, 2:13 PM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 2:13 PM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 2:13 PM
    Paying in the manner you have said for goods/services is the same as buying goods/services.

    I would ask him to send you an invoice for a 'iphone imei number 12345' as 'goods for sale and paid in full'.

    You will be covered if you pay the "purchase" in full. You will have 180 days from purchase to open a claim for INR (item not received) and or SNAD (significantly not as described) if the phone you are "purchasing" doesn't arrive or isn't the correct one.

    If the phone fails to arrive he will have to show delivery via an online trackable means. If the item isn't as described you will have to return it via an online trackable means.
    "I suggest you read who's thread this is and you will find its MINE". sic
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