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    • colinw
    • By colinw 10th Mar 17, 4:22 PM
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    2017 F1 Thread
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    • 10th Mar 17, 4:22 PM
    2017 F1 Thread 10th Mar 17 at 4:22 PM
    Sad way to start it but John Surtees former Formula 1 and motorcycling world champion has died at the age of 83, his family have announced.

    As for the F1 testing it looks like this might be an interesting season as Ferrari are looking pretty good in testing. Mercedes might have some real competition this year. Looks like McClaren's problems are continuing though.
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    • colinw
    • By colinw 28th May 17, 6:41 PM
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    After the excellent previous Grand Prix I have to say Monaco was booooooring and processional......I knew Ferrari would get Vettel to win it somehow would love to have seen Kimi win
    • colinw
    • By colinw 28th May 17, 8:00 PM
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    Alonso leading the Indy 500 with 60 laps to go I would love to see him win it but still a long way to go
    • Gettingtherequickly
    • By Gettingtherequickly 28th May 17, 9:29 PM
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    Alonso leading the Indy 500 with 60 laps to go I would love to see him win it but still a long way to go
    Originally posted by colinw
    Just read about the engine failure, suspect that is what he will be driving next year.
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    • colinw
    • By colinw 29th May 17, 1:46 PM
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    Just read about the engine failure, suspect that is what he will be driving next year.
    Originally posted by Gettingtherequickly
    Yup another blown Honda engine, although Sato did win in a Honda.
    • catkins
    • By catkins 29th May 17, 6:52 PM
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    Felt really sorry for Kimi. He looked so unhappy on the podium.

    I think with it being so early in the season and with Lewis much further back there was no need to make sure Vettel won.
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    • uberalles
    • By uberalles 29th May 17, 7:49 PM
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    ..I knew Ferrari would get Vettel to win it somehow would love to have seen Kimi win
    Originally posted by colinw
    I think with it being so early in the season and with Lewis much further back there was no need to make sure Vettel won.
    Originally posted by catkins
    Is that what you think, or know, happened? I'm not so sure. I think that by virtue Vettel was able to keep on Raikkonen's tail for many laps by a matter of less than 2 seconds meant that by staying out he was able to go for it with a clear track for 3 or 4 laps, making the deficit up and more.

    Isn't the standard accepted protocol that the team's leading driver in the race gets the choice of first or second pit stop? Did this not happen on this occasion? I'm asking, I genuinely don't know.

    That said, if they did call team order's then I don't blame them. As I said before it is a team sport, in the same way the Tour De France, these days. A shame but that is how it is. Vettel is leading the Championship and an extra 7 points can make a big difference at the end. As could the fact that Hamilton managed 6 points.

    Agree it was a bit of a bore of a race.
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    • colinw
    • By colinw 29th May 17, 8:13 PM
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    Felt really sorry for Kimi. He looked so unhappy on the podium.

    I think with it being so early in the season and with Lewis much further back there was no need to make sure Vettel won.
    Originally posted by catkins
    Kimi never looks that happy, that is what I really like about him, he never plays the media game. I remember on live TV on a Sunday afternoon when asked by Martin Brundle why he was leaving the grid he said "I am off for a !!!!" you gotta love the guy.
    • colinw
    • By colinw 29th May 17, 8:15 PM
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    Is that what you think, or know, happened? I'm not so sure. I think that by virtue Vettel was able to keep on Raikkonen's tail for many laps by a matter of less than 2 seconds meant that by staying out he was able to go for it with a clear track for 3 or 4 laps, making the deficit up and more.

    Isn't the standard accepted protocol that the team's leading driver in the race gets the choice of first or second pit stop? Did this not happen on this occasion? I'm asking, I genuinely don't know.

    That said, if they did call team order's then I don't blame them. As I said before it is a team sport, in the same way the Tour De France, these days. A shame but that is how it is. Vettel is leading the Championship and an extra 7 points can make a big difference at the end. As could the fact that Hamilton managed 6 points.

    Agree it was a bit of a bore of a race.
    Originally posted by uberalles
    I honestly don't know if it was team manipulating the result or if it was just the way it worked out. Vettel does seem to be lucky in those respects though having said that he is a brilliant driver.
    • catkins
    • By catkins 30th May 17, 7:44 AM
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    Kimi never looks that happy, that is what I really like about him, he never plays the media game. I remember on live TV on a Sunday afternoon when asked by Martin Brundle why he was leaving the grid he said "I am off for a !!!!" you gotta love the guy.
    Originally posted by colinw
    Oh I agree about him never looking particularly happy and his interviews where he seems to mainly grunt make me laugh.

    I did think though that he looked particularly unhappy on Sunday and surely being on the podium after so long would have made him smile at least a little?

    He really did not seem to went to be there and seemed quite distant with Vettel.

    None of us can be absolutely certain that Ferrari made sure Vettel won but it did look as though they did and all the commentators on Sky F1 seemed to be of the opinion that they did.

    I don't think Kimi has ever won at Monaco and I personally thought the race should have been his
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    • colinw
    • By colinw 10th Jun 17, 7:08 PM
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    Another master class from Hamilton
    • Gettingtherequickly
    • By Gettingtherequickly 10th Jun 17, 10:05 PM
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    Another master class from Hamilton
    Originally posted by colinw
    Smug git Hopefully won't be there at the end. He is a good driver, but I don't like him
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    • colinw
    • By colinw 11th Jun 17, 9:10 AM
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    Smug git Hopefully won't be there at the end. He is a good driver, but I don't like him
    Originally posted by Gettingtherequickly
    He is still a good driver though, the race is a totally different thing anyway and his starting has not been great lately.
    • peachyprice
    • By peachyprice 11th Jun 17, 9:28 AM
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    Wow, what a moment when they gave Hamilton Senna's helmet, he was completely dumbfounded, there was not a dry eye in this house!
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    • catkins
    • By catkins 11th Jun 17, 11:04 AM
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    Smug git Hopefully won't be there at the end. He is a good driver, but I don't like him
    Originally posted by Gettingtherequickly
    I don't think he is smug or arrogant or all the other things said about him. I have met him once and know someone who knows him quite well and he really is not smug or arrogant


    Wow, what a moment when they gave Hamilton Senna's helmet, he was completely dumbfounded, there was not a dry eye in this house!
    Originally posted by peachyprice
    I got very emotional as you could see how much it meant to him
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    • catkins
    • By catkins 11th Jun 17, 12:31 PM
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    Smug git Hopefully won't be there at the end. He is a good driver, but I don't like him
    Originally posted by Gettingtherequickly
    I don't think he is smug or arrogant or all the other things said about him. I have met him once and know someone who knows him quite well and he really is not smug or arrogant


    Wow, what a moment when they gave Hamilton Senna's helmet, he was completely dumbfounded, there was not a dry eye in this house!
    Originally posted by peachyprice
    I got very emotional as you could see how much it meant to him
    The world is over 4 billion years old and yet you somehow managed to exist at the same time as David Bowie
    • colinw
    • By colinw 11th Jun 17, 1:30 PM
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    It should be a good race either way, just wish it was live on Channel 4
    • peachyprice
    • By peachyprice 11th Jun 17, 8:37 PM
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    6 times a winner in Canada!!

    Great drives by Ocon and Perez too.
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    • colinw
    • By colinw 11th Jun 17, 8:40 PM
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    Easy race for Hamilton
    • peachyprice
    • By peachyprice 11th Jun 17, 8:48 PM
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    So nice to see a happy podium this year.
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    • Gettingtherequickly
    • By Gettingtherequickly 11th Jun 17, 9:18 PM
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    Great drives by Ocon and Perez too.
    Originally posted by peachyprice
    And Vettel, once he lost out to Max & resulting damage, he did really well to still end up fourth on the ultimately necessary 2 stop race. But Force India were amazing, although there should have been a bit more authoritative communication from their pit wall.

    Actually, all things considered, other than Mercedes who were out in front from the beginning, all of the other drivers made it for a quite exciting race in their own way.
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