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    • Nookie5
    • By Nookie5 10th Mar 17, 1:03 PM
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    DBS check
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    DBS check 10th Mar 17 at 1:03 PM
    I was previously sacked for theft in an accountancy office. I was photocopying my passport using the company's photocopier, during my lunch time. I was sacked on the spot but the incident was not reported to the police.

    This job lasted for 2 months. I was previously working in airport security and only put them down as my last employer when applying for jobs. No employer will hire me if I say I was sacked for theft.

    Got a new job now in another accountancy firm, but they will be doing a DBS check. Does the DBS check only ask for previous addresses, or previous jobs? How does it work?
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    • Guest101
    • By Guest101 10th Mar 17, 1:12 PM
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    Seriously? You worked at airport security and don't know this?


    Anyway: no, the DBS check your criminal past. That means convictions and cautions for crimes.


    They're not going to check job history
    • Nookie5
    • By Nookie5 10th Mar 17, 1:22 PM
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    Seriously? You worked at airport security and don't know this?


    Anyway: no, the DBS check your criminal past. That means convictions and cautions for crimes.


    They're not going to check job history
    Originally posted by Guest101
    I mostly just hanged around looking cool in the airport. I didn't do any document checking on the job or receive any DBS training. Last time I had a DBS I can't remember what info I gave.

    I know it was stupid to steal but it was only one coloured paper. I've seen co-workers listen to music online during office hours. They never got sacked for stealing office time or internet usage.
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    • By Guest101 10th Mar 17, 1:26 PM
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    I mostly just hanged around looking cool in the airport. I didn't do any document checking on the job or receive any DBS training. Last time I had a DBS I can't remember what info I gave.

    I know it was stupid to steal but it was only one coloured paper. I've seen co-workers listen to music online during office hours. They never got sacked for stealing office time or internet usage.
    Originally posted by Nookie5


    ok
    1: the info you give to the DBS is always the same. Name, DOB and last 5 years addresses.
    2: I know you didn't do any document checking, nor have anything to do with DBS's, but you must've had a DBS to get the job (and your SIA licence)
    3: Totally irrelevant what happened to others, just accept the boss didn't want you. (and could've just asked you to leave)
    • neilio
    • By neilio 10th Mar 17, 1:55 PM
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    I was previously sacked for theft in an accountancy office. I was photocopying my passport using the company's photocopier, during my lunch time. I was sacked on the spot but the incident was not reported to the police.
    Originally posted by Nookie5
    Really? It seems a bit extreme to be sacked for this. Why on earth would anyone consider reporting someone to the police for a bit of photocopying?

    I mostly just hanged around looking cool in the airport.
    Originally posted by Nookie5
    Is this a wind up?
    • xapprenticex
    • By xapprenticex 10th Mar 17, 9:50 PM
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    • 10th Mar 17, 9:50 PM
    I was previously sacked for theft in an accountancy office. I was photocopying my passport using the company's photocopier, during my lunch time. I was sacked on the spot but the incident was not reported to the police.

    This job lasted for 2 months. I was previously working in airport security and only put them down as my last employer when applying for jobs. No employer will hire me if I say I was sacked for theft.

    Got a new job now in another accountancy firm, but they will be doing a DBS check. Does the DBS check only ask for previous addresses, or previous jobs? How does it work?
    Originally posted by Nookie5
    seriously, i think the boss didn't like you
    • Fireflyaway
    • By Fireflyaway 11th Mar 17, 8:46 AM
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    Sounds harsh. Was it just because of the paper / doing non work related stuff or did they think you were up to something? I have heard its not allowed to photocopy passports ( not sure if that is true - I know I've done it!).
    DBS will only show cautions and convictions or if you are banned from working with kids / vulnerable adults. All they need is your address history, name and date of birth and some ID and proof of address ( utility bill ) If the 'theft' wasn't reported to the police it won't show up on DBS.
    Last edited by Fireflyaway; 11-03-2017 at 8:47 AM. Reason: T
    • Savvy_Sue
    • By Savvy_Sue 12th Mar 17, 1:18 AM
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    I have heard its not allowed to photocopy passports ( not sure if that is true - I know I've done it!).
    Originally posted by Fireflyaway
    We do it all the time: it's the simplest way of establishing a 'right to work', and as you can be required to 'prove' that you've carried out the check, the simplest thing is to keep a photocopy of the passport on the staff file!
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    • General Grant
    • By General Grant 12th Mar 17, 10:22 PM
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    We do it all the time: it's the simplest way of establishing a 'right to work', and as you can be required to 'prove' that you've carried out the check, the simplest thing is to keep a photocopy of the passport on the staff file!
    Originally posted by Savvy_Sue
    At one time you were not supposed to photocopy passports at all but then the need to prove right to work checks had been carried out and the decision to employ had been made on the basis of a reasonable judgment of documents produced, this changed. There was also a "black and white" copy only, not colour requirement. However that changed and colour copies are preferred. See http://www.icaew.com/en/archive/members/practice-resources/icaew-practice-support/practicewire/news/photocopying-passports-revised-guidance .

    By the way when you take a copy of a passport or other documentary evidence for right to work, you should note on the copy the date the original document was seen and also by whom.
    • GingerBob
    • By GingerBob 12th Mar 17, 10:33 PM
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    At one time you were not supposed to photocopy passports at all but then the need to prove right to work checks had been carried out and the decision to employ had been made on the basis of a reasonable judgment of documents produced, this changed. There was also a "black and white" copy only, not colour requirement. However that changed and colour copies are preferred. See http://www.icaew.com/en/archive/members/practice-resources/icaew-practice-support/practicewire/news/photocopying-passports-revised-guidance .

    By the way when you take a copy of a passport or other documentary evidence for right to work, you should note on the copy the date the original document was seen and also by whom.
    Originally posted by General Grant

    A sensible restriction. Now, every Tom, Dlck and Harry wants a copy of your passport. As a result you totally lose control of this vital document. No wonder identity theft is rampant.
    • Nookie5
    • By Nookie5 13th Mar 17, 10:31 AM
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    Sounds harsh. Was it just because of the paper / doing non work related stuff or did they think you were up to something? I have heard its not allowed to photocopy passports ( not sure if that is true - I know I've done it!).
    DBS will only show cautions and convictions or if you are banned from working with kids / vulnerable adults. All they need is your address history, name and date of birth and some ID and proof of address ( utility bill ) If the 'theft' wasn't reported to the police it won't show up on DBS.
    Originally posted by Fireflyaway
    I was photocopying my passport for non-worker related purposes. I used their paper, ink, and disrespected authority because I didn't plead for permission.
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