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    • K9sandFelines
    • By K9sandFelines 7th Mar 17, 12:36 AM
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    Cat pee ... at my wit's end
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    • 7th Mar 17, 12:36 AM
    Cat pee ... at my wit's end 7th Mar 17 at 12:36 AM
    Okay, this has been asked a thousand times and already by me when i had exhausted all other options, but what can i do ...

    A little history, six year old rescue cat, female, we have had from a kitten. She was never perfect after having had a bad start to life abandoned in one cat carrier with three tiny siblings, and two older siblings covered in their own mess , but fast forward to recent day and her behaviour is starting to get me down.

    Two years ago now we moved to a new (private rented) house. All this time said cats behaviour had been fine, she was going in the litter tray and for the most time clean, but occasionally she will squat and pee on the laminate in my back room and wooden floor in my front room. As far as i am aware, i cleaned what i could, and have binned rugs and anything she has probably left a scent on. She s done it in bags on shoes ... you name it. Her favourite place to choose to go is a small patch of lino in the hallway, despite their being a litter tray barely ten yards away. At first, this was sporadic, and i mopped it with specialist urine neutraliser, then laundry liquid when that didn't seem to make a difference, upped the anti making sure all litters were cleaned and changed and she seemed to stop. However the past few days she is doing it again, and despite trying to fold it back, mop the floor underneath (which is cement) and the underside of the lino and leave it to dry; she is now just doing it on the cement floor. I don't know whether pee has maybe touched the carpet a tiny bit on the bottom stair, so therefore she keeps returning; but saying that she used to do it over the other side where there was no carpet and still returned. I was thinking of pulling up the lino and leaving it for a bit, with a view to replacing it with brand new flooring; but she will no doubt just pee on the cement floor.

    I have previously taken her to the vets about this on several occasions who just checked her temp incase she wasn't well and doing it for that reason. All possibilities of illness were ruled out, so i think it's definitely a behavioral thing. I've also used Feliway diffusers at times were it's a possibilty she was doing it out of stress, and she still peed.

    I thought about putting the litter box there, but it's right at the bottom of the staircase, so neither possible nor practical.I use Oko plus cat litter and i am on a tight budget, but doing the best i can with limited funds. I've already got one of my male cats pooing out of the litter box (possibly due to age and currently under investigation), so it's stressful enough; but at least poo can be picked up and the carpet scrubbed. Pee lingers!! Its almost like she can't be bothered to go in the litter tray, because unless she does it secretly when we can't see her, i hardly ever see her go in it. She's 95% a housecat, doesn't venture out much, won't really play much and sleeps alot.

    I hope i have covered everything, and somebody can advise me further.
    Last edited by K9sandFelines; 07-03-2017 at 12:41 AM.
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    • K9sandFelines
    • By K9sandFelines 17th Mar 17, 12:05 AM
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    If she's a nervy cat could you try her with one of those covered litter trays?
    Originally posted by Slinky
    All my cat litter trays are covered ones, she just doesn't use them as far as i am aware or does so in secret.
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    • GwylimT
    • By GwylimT 17th Mar 17, 6:49 AM
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    All my cat litter trays are covered ones, she just doesn't use them as far as i am aware or does so in secret.
    Originally posted by K9sandFelines
    Cats feel vulnerable while toileting, this is why most cats dislike covered trays.
    • K9sandFelines
    • By K9sandFelines 17th Mar 17, 12:08 PM
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    Cats feel vulnerable while toileting, this is why most cats dislike covered trays.
    Originally posted by GwylimT
    Will get a few uncovered trays too, as they are easier to whip away and store when not needed. Thanks.
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    • Whalie
    • By Whalie 17th Mar 17, 12:55 PM
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    I think that you may have to get her re-homed. Not all cats like other cats! She may not show aggression or avoidance to the other cats but that does not mean she likes them! It is also a habit she has got into. I have such a cat. Lovely looking pedigree handed over to the RSPCA at 8 years old (after finished being breed from). Was warned that the reason she was given to them was her wetting and not getting on with the other cats.

    Well it has taken me 3 years but we are finally getting there. I have used just about all the above suggestions others have given you. She has two uncovered trays - don't use the biogradeable or wood chips, she just does not like them. Clean them out as soon as she makes a deposit, and change the litter every few days. If I am out all day and evening, then I do put out a few puppy pads in areas she has used but lately I find them dry.

    I know that while I own her, she will have to be the only animal I have.

    I hope you find a solution.
    • K9sandFelines
    • By K9sandFelines 21st Mar 17, 12:11 AM
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    I think that you may have to get her re-homed. Not all cats like other cats! She may not show aggression or avoidance to the other cats but that does not mean she likes them! It is also a habit she has got into. I have such a cat. Lovely looking pedigree handed over to the RSPCA at 8 years old (after finished being breed from). Was warned that the reason she was given to them was her wetting and not getting on with the other cats.

    Well it has taken me 3 years but we are finally getting there. I have used just about all the above suggestions others have given you. She has two uncovered trays - don't use the biogradeable or wood chips, she just does not like them. Clean them out as soon as she makes a deposit, and change the litter every few days. If I am out all day and evening, then I do put out a few puppy pads in areas she has used but lately I find them dry.

    I know that while I own her, she will have to be the only animal I have.

    I hope you find a solution.
    Originally posted by Whalie
    She was already a rescue cat from the start so would never put her back in that situation. Since the last time i posted here that she had weed, she hasn't done it. she has done it prior to the newest cats coming along so it's not a new thing and the other cats she has lived with most of her life. She never has been very sociable but id rather she stays with those she knows.than have the stress of a new family.
    I hope you find a solutuon also.
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    • Whalie
    • By Whalie 23rd Mar 17, 12:30 PM
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    K9sandFelines my post did sound harsh about re-homing. No way did I mean send her back to a rescue centre! But if you could find an alternative situation for her with friends or contacts or (which I know would be nearly impossible) give her her own area which the other cats are not allowed in. My cat although not perfect is 95% better than she was but I nearly gave up hope.
    • K9sandFelines
    • By K9sandFelines 28th Mar 17, 11:31 AM
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    K9sandFelines my post did sound harsh about re-homing. No way did I mean send her back to a rescue centre! But if you could find an alternative situation for her with friends or contacts or (which I know would be nearly impossible) give her her own area which the other cats are not allowed in. My cat although not perfect is 95% better than she was but I nearly gave up hope.
    Originally posted by Whalie
    No worries Whalie, its hard to get across when you're typing words on a screen. I've got nobody who can have her. None of my family are interested in cats and friends that are already have their own.
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    • Jobo321
    • By Jobo321 12th Apr 17, 6:11 PM
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    Glue cat biscuits to some card and put it were they pee. They don't pee were their is food. 😻😻😻
    • paddypaws101
    • By paddypaws101 14th Apr 17, 9:44 AM
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    I think the suggestion of Cystophan is a good one....it aims to address any bladder discomfort and also contains Tryptophan which has a calming action. Zylkene is also a good one to try, but buy the 450mg 'dog' capsules and split them to use an appropriate dose.
    I think it sounds as if this habit is coming from her anxiety, and had been heightened by the addition of the two new cats even though she appears to tolerate them.
    One other thing I would try is to keep one litter tray just for her use. Feeding times seems to trigger toiletting for my cats, so try popping her onto her own safe tray around that time and see if she will empty her bladder then. One of my boys can be a bit of a sprayer, and when I see him looking for a likely spot I pop him in the tray. If he pees in there he gets a reward of his special biscuits. He also gets a supplement with Tryptophan in it which has really helped.
    • teddysmum
    • By teddysmum 14th Apr 17, 2:31 PM
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    For dog wee smells, Simple Solution is good. My two are getting on and sniff at accidents, but ignore the spot once treated.


    They do a cat version, which I assume is just as good and is cheaper when bought in 4 litre containers, from Amazon. (I decant into spray bottles and find it useful for general household stains eg greasy soot marks on rugs, rubbed in mud)
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