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    • justaquestion
    • By justaquestion 6th Mar 17, 4:33 PM
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    Different brands of paint-same quality?
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    • 6th Mar 17, 4:33 PM
    Different brands of paint-same quality? 6th Mar 17 at 4:33 PM
    Hi,

    Is there much of a difference in quality between using say a Dulux Weather Shield exterior paint on outside walls, and one of the others like Johnstone or Crown exterior paint, or is the weather shield by Dulux just a bit of hype with a price to match?

    I see 10 litres of it on sale at B and M for £45, good value?

    I have used Dulux paint on inside walls seemed to hold up well enough down through the years.

    Just one more question does the silk finish just have more of a shine than the matt finish?


    Thanks for any advice.
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    • Grenage
    • By Grenage 6th Mar 17, 4:41 PM
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    I don't know about Dulux paints in general, but I used the weathershield oil-based system on my soffits and fascias last year; excellent stuff.

    Not a professional painter, so it's possible that a tradesman will tell me I've devalued my house by 20%.

    For a wall, I would not be opposed to giving the Johnstone stuff a punt.
    • London50
    • By London50 6th Mar 17, 5:33 PM
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    As for the silk and matt question....yes silk finish does have more of a shine than matt. Matt by definition is a flat finish where silk has a slight gloss to it.
    • Cats are great
    • By Cats are great 13th Mar 17, 9:04 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 9:04 AM
    The Retail brands from all paint manufacturers defer greatly from the trade brands. Trade brands are more expensive as they contain different agregates.
    In retail paint you have more gelling agents that make paint appear thicker but this doesn't help with coverage, it's the titanium dioxide that gives paint its durability.

    Johnstones trade stormshield has awards from BDF and has a much longer life span (I think 15 years) than its counterparts so long as the substrate is treated properly beforehand.

    Oh and yes Sheen on emulsion paint is as follows from highest sheen to least:
    Silk
    Soft sheen
    Matt
    Flatt Matt.

    Good Luck!
    • Furts
    • By Furts 13th Mar 17, 9:27 AM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 9:27 AM
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    I go with the above. My experience is retail paints are aimed at retail customers who are not discerning and are prepared to pay whatever. Trade paints are aimed at those who know their stuff and will not tolerate rubbish.

    Factor in retail paints can appear good value for price but may be thin and less durable. But the prices can be exceptional because the DIY sheds will do special offers, bulk buys and loss leaders.

    Johnstone tends to be the more profitable retail brand name for Leyland and so the confusion with paints goes on.

    Try giving your business to your local trade centre - be it Crown, Dulux,or Leyland. There is nothing stopping you negotiating over price, or saying price match B&Q, or whatever, and seeing what price you end up with.
    • Silvertabby
    • By Silvertabby 13th Mar 17, 11:09 AM
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    I go with the above. My experience is retail paints are aimed at retail customers who are not discerning and are prepared to pay whatever. Trade paints are aimed at those who know their stuff and will not tolerate rubbish.

    Factor in retail paints can appear good value for price but may be thin and less durable. But the prices can be exceptional because the DIY sheds will do special offers, bulk buys and loss leaders.

    Johnstone tends to be the more profitable retail brand name for Leyland and so the confusion with paints goes on.

    Try giving your business to your local trade centre - be it Crown, Dulux,or Leyland. There is nothing stopping you negotiating over price, or saying price match B&Q, or whatever, and seeing what price you end up with. Posted by Furts
    That's interesting. I can manage the bedrooms myself, and have had good results with Dulux 'Once' - but we're getting a chap in to do the hall/stairs/landing and lounge/dining rooms. He is going to supply the white paint for the ceilings and the woodwork, but will use the paint I buy for the walls. This made sense to me due to the huge range of paints and colours out there!. So, do I carry on looking at Farrow and Ball (first range I've seen with the colour I want) or are trade quality paints really that much better? Thanks !

    P.S. - no kids, no dogs, so don't need the paint to be armour-plated.
    Last edited by Silvertabby; 13-03-2017 at 11:12 AM.
    • Furts
    • By Furts 13th Mar 17, 1:01 PM
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    • 13th Mar 17, 1:01 PM
    That's interesting. I can manage the bedrooms myself, and have had good results with Dulux 'Once' - but we're getting a chap in to do the hall/stairs/landing and lounge/dining rooms. He is going to supply the white paint for the ceilings and the woodwork, but will use the paint I buy for the walls. This made sense to me due to the huge range of paints and colours out there!. So, do I carry on looking at Farrow and Ball (first range I've seen with the colour I want) or are trade quality paints really that much better? Thanks !

    P.S. - no kids, no dogs, so don't need the paint to be armour-plated.
    Originally posted by Silvertabby
    It is your choice. The likes B&Q are forever having offers on coloured emulsion because there are good margins here. You only have to look at what white or magnolia costs to realise this. You have to decide what you want to pay, and if this is F&B prices then fine by me.
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