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    • Bearded
    • By Bearded 6th Mar 17, 11:48 AM
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    Tenant rights in France
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    • 6th Mar 17, 11:48 AM
    Tenant rights in France 6th Mar 17 at 11:48 AM
    Hello, I am currently staying with a friend in France, and the Landlord lives with 3 other tenants ( one of whom is my friend) in a flat share. This land lord has expressed a desire for me to leave, when my friend would like me to stay.
    Does anybody here know the legality behind my friends rights here, and if not where I could possibly go to find out in English?


    Thank you for any answers in advance.
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    • societys child
    • By societys child 17th Mar 17, 9:45 AM
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    And in terms of the LL having the right to ask me to leave at any time, you imagined wrong.
    If that's the case, why have you asked the question in the first place? Why not explain to us what rights you have?

    Do have have some kind of written contract? Is it not a case of his house, his rules?
    He may have originally agreed, but something has happened to change his mind, maybe he doesn't appreciate your attitude, for example. Perhaps he's realised the arrangement wont work. Good luck.

    • BrassicWoman
    • By BrassicWoman 17th Mar 17, 10:31 AM
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    I expect this is another psychological experiment. Whether on us or the landlord, I am still unsure.
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    • sparky130a
    • By sparky130a 17th Mar 17, 10:38 AM
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    I expect this is another psychological experiment. Whether on us or the landlord, I am still unsure.
    Originally posted by BrassicWoman
    I suspect it's a load of BS. But they pretty much amount to the same thing anyway!

    The student Phil one years ago was great fun...
    • FBaby
    • By FBaby 17th Mar 17, 11:10 AM
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    And in terms of the LL having the right to ask me to leave at any time, you imagined wrong.
    Really? So it was written in the reglement de colocation that any of the tenants can have 'friends' staying over for an unlimited time without any right for that person to be asked to leave during the tenancy?

    Somehow I doubt it, and without it, your friend (and you) have no rights.
    • Cakeguts
    • By Cakeguts 17th Mar 17, 12:31 PM
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    Tenants rights in France. You aren't a tenant so you don't have any. Next?
    • puppypants
    • By puppypants 17th Mar 17, 12:47 PM
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    Who's this Ad Hom bloke? Is he related to Ken Hom? Is he a lodger too? x
    • sparky130a
    • By sparky130a 17th Mar 17, 2:09 PM
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    Who's this Ad Hom bloke? Is he related to Ken Hom? Is he a lodger too? x
    Originally posted by puppypants
    Just Ken and his wife...
    • zebulon
    • By zebulon 17th Mar 17, 2:22 PM
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    Really? So it was written in the reglement de colocation that any of the tenants can have 'friends' staying over for an unlimited time without any right for that person to be asked to leave during the tenancy?

    Somehow I doubt it, and without it, your friend (and you) have no rights.
    Originally posted by FBaby
    It probably as nothing about it. I saw a forum with a French LL feeling very sorry for themselves for not having mentioned any specific limits. And the general consensus on the forum was that there was nothing they could do but get the lodger to leave.

    https://translate.google.co.uk/

    Le locataire est chez lui dans le logement qu'il occupe. Dès lors, certaines clauses qui limitent sa jouissance sont abusives. C'est le cas des clauses qui :
    [...]
    interdisent au locataire d'h!berger des personnes ne vivant pas habituellement avec lui

    https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F1686
    Last edited by zebulon; 17-03-2017 at 2:30 PM.
    • FBaby
    • By FBaby 17th Mar 17, 5:17 PM
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    A 'locataire' is a tenant, not a lodger. Just like in England, the law protects them differently.
    • zebulon
    • By zebulon 17th Mar 17, 7:14 PM
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    A 'locataire' is a tenant, not a lodger. Just like in England, the law protects them differently.
    Originally posted by FBaby

    A lodger in France is still a 'locataire'.
    Just like a tenant, a lodger has to sign a 'bail' (diff is its for the room only, and with right of use for other parts as specified in an annexed 'convention')


    https://www.service-public.fr
    where are the details specific to lodgers ?

    Happy to be corrected with relevant sources
    Last edited by zebulon; 17-03-2017 at 7:35 PM.
    • sparky130a
    • By sparky130a 17th Mar 17, 7:16 PM
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    A lodger in France is still a 'locataire'.
    Just like a tenant, a lodger has to sign a 'bail'.
    Originally posted by zebulon
    They are a house guest though. And a p155 taking one at that.
    • zebulon
    • By zebulon 17th Mar 17, 7:35 PM
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    They are a house guest though. And a p155 taking one at that.
    Originally posted by sparky130a
    The OP is indeed a house guest of the 'locataire' and one I really wouldn't want in my house, judging by the posts here.
    However I feel like some accurate info might be useful if anyone ends up on this thread.
    • sparky130a
    • By sparky130a 17th Mar 17, 7:36 PM
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    The OP is indeed a house guest of the 'locataire' and one I really wouldn't want in my house.
    However I feel like some accurate info might be useful if anyone ends up on this thread.
    Originally posted by zebulon
    I just gave you the accurate points though...
    • zebulon
    • By zebulon 17th Mar 17, 7:50 PM
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    I just gave you the accurate points though...
    Originally posted by sparky130a
    oops I didn't realise your points were the only important ones here, and that any other wrong info should not be covered. Who cares how the lodging system works in France vs UK anyway. (I thought it was interesting and informative.)
    Last edited by zebulon; 17-03-2017 at 7:52 PM.
    • sparky130a
    • By sparky130a 17th Mar 17, 8:47 PM
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    oops I didn't realise your points were the only important ones here, and that any other wrong info should not be covered. Who cares how the lodging system works in France vs UK anyway. (I thought it was interesting and informative.)
    Originally posted by zebulon
    I didn't say they were?

    But this is not a lodger, it's a freeloading house guest to my mind.
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