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    • caronc
    • By caronc 13th Jan 17, 7:32 PM
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    Cooking for one
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    • 13th Jan 17, 7:32 PM
    Cooking for one 13th Jan 17 at 7:32 PM
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    Hi, newbie poster though long time lurker trying to adjust to being an empty-nester and due to some substantial changes income-wise in the next couple of months trying to cut my costs and adjust my shopping to mainly solo dining. I abhor waste so good that way and do cook from scratch/batch cook the vast majority of the time. I do "sort of" meal plan but it can be a bit hit or miss depending on my health is on any given day. I'm reliant on on-line shopping so can't take advanage of aldi/Lidl etc. What (if any) changes did you make when changing to a single-person household?



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    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 8th Jun 17, 5:41 PM
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    Rather than buying big bags (they're usually a minimum 500g I think?) of frozen veg maybe try buying individual fruits or veg every few days?
    Originally posted by SunnyGirl
    I buy 1Kg bags, at £1/bag. The smaller bags, more varied things, interesting stuff... is pricier.

    I've little/no access to individual fruits/veg (unless L1dl/4ldi do them) -- and at a price that's affordable when compared to frozen veg -- and things I like/eat. I don't eat a lot of "modern foods" or other "oddities" and some I just don't like. e.g. I don't like/eat mushrooms, sweetcorn on the cob, aubergine, celery, butternut squash ... by the time you've crossed off the list what's expensive and what I don't like/eat there's very little left

    There is a weekly market, with a small fruit/veg stall, but I've seen his prices and I think he's targetting the sort of people that shop at M&S and Waitrose ... which isn't me.
    • meg72
    • By meg72 8th Jun 17, 7:09 PM
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    It's £65 here too to have my grass clippings taken away as part of a refuse service .... fine if you have a large leafy plot with lots of garden waste, but I've a new build small lawn and fairly tame front hedge.... luckily the tip's close to me, so I can tip it for free - but I do still have to then time grass cutting/hedge clipping with when I'm immediately prepared to take it to the tip, else I run the risk of it all getting wet if it rains and then turning nasty - and not fancying doing it any more

    I cut/dispose of it about 4-5x a year. It's about 1 black dustbin liner/trip.
    Originally posted by PasturesNew
    OMG that's awful, we have a green bin here for garden waste and its taken away free every fortnight mines usually empty as I compost the grass cuttings but its a god send when the hedges need trimming.
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    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 8th Jun 17, 7:14 PM
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    Just popped out ... (don't tell anybody about the choccies) ....

    Popped into 4ldi - and stopped to look at fruit/veg. Most was packaged. There were a few loose items: red peppers (this week's special) at 39p each; honeydew melons, gala melons, limes, grapefruit, bananas, apples and pears were loose. For veg I didn't spot any, but I might've missed it.

    Didn't buy a thing in 4ldi, only popped in to see if they'd reduced the big rolls as I've fish fingers to get through, but as they were still full price I left it .... I always feel like a shoplifter being watched when I leave a shop without buying anything!
    • joedenise
    • By joedenise 8th Jun 17, 7:16 PM
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    PN - have you thought about buying the bags of mixed veg? You'd only need to keep one bag of veg in then. You can bags with large pieces of veg in or ones that are chopped small. I prefer the small chopped ones myself as they mix well if I'm cooking mince.

    Denise
    • SunnyGirl
    • By SunnyGirl 8th Jun 17, 7:45 PM
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    PN Thanks for looking at the fruit and veg you're a love. The fruit I'd eat but like you am looking for loose veg I'd prefer to buy say 3 carrots, 2 potatoes, 2 onions and a pepper. I may email Aldi and Lidl and ask if they do them loose. Singlie power and all that!
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 8th Jun 17, 7:48 PM
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    PN Thanks for looking at the fruit and veg you're a love. The fruit I'd eat but like you am looking for loose veg I'd prefer to buy say 3 carrots, 2 potatoes, 2 onions and a pepper. I may email Aldi and Lidl and ask if they do them loose. Singlie power and all that!
    Originally posted by SunnyGirl
    Yep....good on ya' if you do.

    ....and I'd be sticking in the point re there's 7 million of us and suggesting they might like a little "light reading" (ie our thread).
    #MeToo

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    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 8th Jun 17, 7:55 PM
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    PN - have you thought about buying the bags of mixed veg? You'd only need to keep one bag of veg in then. You can bags with large pieces of veg in or ones that are chopped small. I prefer the small chopped ones myself as they mix well if I'm cooking mince.

    Denise
    Originally posted by joedenise
    That's what I was doing, mostly. But then it got to Xmas and I also bought more.... which have lurked in my small freezer until today.

    All my freezer drawers are 7"/18cm deep and 14"/36cm wide. Two are 14" long and one is 7" long. So 2½ baskets.

    Post-Xmas I had opened veggie bags of: cheap mixed veg, regular 4ldi mixed veg, brussels, roasties, white onions, cauli/broccoli.

    If a family bought 1Kg of brussels for Xmas they'd cook half the pack on each of two days and it'd be gone. When a single does it they cook 6-8 individual little brussels each time ...and they last months! I cooked all sorts with those, ate them with roast meals, made a variety of bubble/squeaks .... and still there were some left.
    Last edited by PasturesNew; 08-06-2017 at 8:01 PM.
    • SunnyGirl
    • By SunnyGirl 8th Jun 17, 8:08 PM
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    Yep....good on ya' if you do.

    ....and I'd be sticking in the point re there's 7 million of us and suggesting they might like a little "light reading" (ie our thread).
    Originally posted by moneyistooshorttomention
    That's what made me think of doing so - I think you mentioned that there were 7 million of us after watching the tv programme that PN told us about? Power to the people and all of that
    • Anne_Marie
    • By Anne_Marie 8th Jun 17, 9:27 PM
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    PN Thanks for looking at the fruit and veg you're a love. The fruit I'd eat but like you am looking for loose veg I'd prefer to buy say 3 carrots, 2 potatoes, 2 onions and a pepper. I may email Aldi and Lidl and ask if they do them loose. Singlie power and all that!
    Originally posted by SunnyGirl
    Think that would be a great thing to do.....actually you all should do it. A campaign should be started! Good on you SunnyGirl.

    I do exactly what you would like to do, a couple of potatoes, 2-3 carrots, couple of onions, 2 bananas etc.

    Fruit and veg all used to be loose, or at least most of it. It's a supermarket con to get consumers to buy more than they need, and therefore more waste. Supermarkets say that they are concerned about food waste....only what they don't sell and have to bin, not the food waste we have at home, as that's cutting into their profits.

    Caronc, so glad to hear that your Dad is ok, you take it easy girl, you've had a shock too.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 9th Jun 17, 9:23 AM
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    Food will become increasingly difficult, I think I need a loaf of bread so I can rely on toast .... and sandwiches.

    This morning I removed the two empty baskets from the freezer - might as well wash those ahead of the freezer defrost moment.

    Baskets: https://s4.postimg.org/4otr1l671/Freezer_Baskets_090027768_500x.jpg
    Freezer: https://s30.postimg.org/pk9tfe3f5/Freezer_Basket_090107950_500.jpg

    Breakfast - I could have any combination from veggie burger, hash browns, sausages and beans.... can't decide which would be the best combination. It's hard to strike a balance between using what you've got and ending up with a strange combination as you'd not have "chosen" to put 2-3 items together onto one plate... but "it's food" ... and has to be eaten.

    And here's what's left in the one drawer remaining:

    https://s15.postimg.org/q8mugen0b/Freezer_Food_Remaining_090313694_500x.jpg

    6 Fish fingers, 3 beanburgers, peas, 3 hash browns, 3 small Yorkshires. There's also 4 lollies in there, which aren't in the photo.

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    Last edited by PasturesNew; 09-06-2017 at 9:25 AM.
    • SunnyGirl
    • By SunnyGirl 9th Jun 17, 10:17 AM
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    Hash brown, sausage and beans sounds a cracking brekkie to me PN

    Morning all. I tweeted Aldi last night and have had a reply asking me to message them with my problem. I'm going to say that as a singlie, and one of 7million, why don't they sell fruit and veg loose. Only selling prepackaged produce is forcing us to go to the big supermarkets or local shops which are more expensive and why we shop at Aldi in the first place. What do you think?
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 9th Jun 17, 10:22 AM
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    Hash brown, sausage and beans sounds a cracking brekkie to me PN

    Morning all. I tweeted Aldi last night and have had a reply asking me to message them with my problem. I'm going to say that as a singlie, and one of 7million, why don't they sell fruit and veg loose. Only selling prepackaged produce is forcing us to go to the big supermarkets or local shops which are more expensive and why we shop at Aldi in the first place. What do you think?
    Originally posted by SunnyGirl
    I thought hash/sausage/beans sounded good.... but I'm also aware that the burgers need eating up, so was thinking of burger instead of hash .... but that "sounds more like lunch" ...so I've not chosen.

    I could just go out and buy more honey nut cornflakes and a loaf.... that'll take me through for breakfasts this coming week as I countdown to Free-Freezer Day.

    Post it on their Twitter page - no need to "message" them, which is private.... you might get 1million others sharing it
    If it's in their message box you've disappeared... gone...nobody will know.

    I suspect your tweet wasn't even answered by a human at all - sounds like a Bot response.

    Having said that, a bit of time on hashtag research wouldn't go amiss.

    I never get round to Twitter.... I should, I've got accounts, but I've never got round to getting into the habit of using it.

    Maybe now I've got round to defrosting the freezer, I should add "Tweet 1x a Week" to my new "things to get round to doing"

    An alternative route might be to investigate if there are any Facebook pages dedicated to getting loose veggies on sale - and see what they're up to/join those groups and get vocal. I think I'll do that for now.... fills a gap to stop me thinking about food.
    Last edited by PasturesNew; 09-06-2017 at 10:29 AM.
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 9th Jun 17, 10:33 AM
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    First result I found to see if there's a campaign, gave me this as a starting point, from 6 days ago ...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4567984/Supermarkets-fuel-waste-ditching-loose-fruit-veg.html

    "vegetable vigilantes went as far as ripping open bags in one store"

    I don't fancy being a vigilante
    That's a step too far for me.

    Asda has been singled out by waste campaigners after launching a trial of selling certain vegetables only in packets but a survey by the Daily Mail found it is not alone among major supermarkets in refusing to sell types of fresh produce loose.
    Look, the WI did a study 84% preferred loose

    It insists there is good evidence that shoppers prefer to buy in packs, despite a recent study by the WI which found that 84 per cent of people preferred buying fruit and veg loose.
    Graphic/table of who sells what:

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/03/01/4109F20B00000578-0-image-m-18_1496449606081.jpg

    As I see it, packs can give a better £/100g value (but not always as they sometimes use packaging to fool people) .... but I only want ONE of stuff.

    I often walk away because ONE would cost, say, 50p, whereas a shop's selling a "pack of 4" for 60p-£1. So I feel ripped off and just leave without making any purchase at all. For me they are losing business.

    I would say - ditto for doughnuts. In Sainsbobs I can buy a pack of 5 jam doughnuts in a bag for 65p. At the end of the aisle are the single doughnuts, costing 50p each. I want 1 .... I don't want to pay 50p for one, knowing that somebody round the corner that can/will eat 5 gets to buy them for 13p each.

    I always check the doughnuts for reductions .... and once every 2 years I can find a bag there reduced to about 30p and I buy them... then scoff the lot

    I just went to double check the price of a single doughnut on the sainsbobs website - and they don't list the single doughnuts available for sale online! You can only buy the bagged ones.
    Last edited by PasturesNew; 09-06-2017 at 10:40 AM.
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 9th Jun 17, 10:36 AM
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    Hash brown, sausage and beans sounds a cracking brekkie to me PN

    Morning all. I tweeted Aldi last night and have had a reply asking me to message them with my problem. I'm going to say that as a singlie, and one of 7million, why don't they sell fruit and veg loose. Only selling prepackaged produce is forcing us to go to the big supermarkets or local shops which are more expensive and why we shop at Aldi in the first place. What do you think?
    Originally posted by SunnyGirl
    "Yes" in a word to that.

    I would think the magic words to throw into the equation currently are "food waste" too. Supermarkets have a bit of a sore spot at the moment re that (thanks to Hugh Fernley-Whittingstall et al).

    - so...yep....forcing us to look elsewhere for our few bits we want and adding to "food waste" in our society.

    Add in a comment too (by the words about there being 7 million of us) to the effect of there are an increasing number of single people households.

    Errrrm....what else? Well, in this day and age - even in multi-person households there is a good chance that at least one of the household members is eating differently. Time was some decades ago where families would sit down and all eat the same meal together. These days - there is a good chance that many families eat differently and, say, one is vegetarian, one eats healthily (whilst the rest eat junk food), another has allergies and so on. So, one way and another, many of us now expect to eat more "individually" (iyswim) - rather than "fitting in" with the rest of the household even if we aren't single.
    #MeToo

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    • SunnyGirl
    • By SunnyGirl 9th Jun 17, 10:47 AM
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    Absolute geniuses both of you and I'm onto it! I love twitter and don't have Facebook. I tweet companies as like you say PN they don't like the negative connotations. Will keep you informed and pop back later to read your fab links x
    • SunnyGirl
    • By SunnyGirl 9th Jun 17, 11:25 AM
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    I have now also tweeted Lidl with the same query and used the hashtag #foodwaste
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 9th Jun 17, 11:38 AM
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    I have now also tweeted Lidl with the same query and used the hashtag #foodwaste
    Originally posted by SunnyGirl
    ooh you little militant.
    I hate to stand above a parapet.... happy to give others a leg up if they want to stick their head over .... but going first has never been my thing

    I'm more of a back room researcher/supporter ... I don't like the public glare

    My take on it, though, is that I think the big bully boys will dig their heels in - because they don't really care about waste, they are keen on profits.

    A better strategy might be to pinpoint sales they lost ..... it'd need a bit of a thought how to effectively word that so they think they're missing out.

    They say they've done studies... but what studies, who did they ask, how did they word/skew their questions?

    EVERYBODY can benefit from having loose available ...
    Supermarkets lose because: 1. loose tends to be cheaper 2. more people are sucked in by the grabbable packaging of a bag 3. bags can be easier to market in "deals".

    By sticking it in bags, in "deals", they can double the price of the goods and make more people want it /grab it on auto-pilot.
    Last edited by PasturesNew; 09-06-2017 at 11:41 AM.
    • SunnyGirl
    • By SunnyGirl 9th Jun 17, 12:01 PM
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    Very good point with the studies. Now it just so happens that I'm a uni student studying psychology and criminology so am very au fait with finding studies. Hmmm will look into that this evening. Feel free to post any links and I will too when I've had a good scan through the uni library database.

    I'm not usually so militant but having read through and joined this thread I am feeing like a forgotten household in modern Britain with the greedy supermarkets ruling all. It's not fair and not nice. Personally I feel as though they were happy to take my money when I was feeding 5 people 3 times a day but that they don't give a hoot now that I want to buy loose goods at my supermarket of choice. I don't want to have to trail to Yesco or
    Asda who aren't doing that well anyway looking at the graphic you posted PN.
    • Doom_and_Gloom
    • By Doom_and_Gloom 9th Jun 17, 12:16 PM
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    EVERYBODY can benefit from having loose available ...
    Supermarkets lose because: 1. loose tends to be cheaper 2. more people are sucked in by the grabbable packaging of a bag 3. bags can be easier to market in "deals".

    By sticking it in bags, in "deals", they can double the price of the goods and make more people want it /grab it on auto-pilot.
    Originally posted by PasturesNew
    Have to admit only a few items at my local supermarket are cheaper loose; broccoli, red onions and bananas are all I can think of that are cheaper loose. Nets/bags of fruits and vegetables are usually cheaper. That's why even though my OH rarely takes the odd item of vegetable (an onion or a carrot for example), so I'm in essence buying for me, I buy the bags/nets, especially when reduced.

    My OH likes granny smith apples, but rarely. He still has one in the fruit bowl from a reduced pack he bought over a month ago. I don't eat that apple variety hense why it is still there. To buy one loose would cost 30p+, the pack of them cost less per apple before they were reduced; though by average weight online apparently loose should work out cheaper for these apples I found this is never the case. The weights are always more than the average.

    We are the kind of household moneyistooshorttomention was on about. Differences in diet cause problems when buying.
    Last edited by Doom_and_Gloom; 09-06-2017 at 12:40 PM. Reason: typo
    28 year old vegan woman. My OH is a lovely omni guy
    • PasturesNew
    • By PasturesNew 9th Jun 17, 12:41 PM
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    Nets/bags of fruits and vegetables are usually cheaper. That's why even though my OH rarely takes the odd item of vegetable (an onion or a carrot for example), so I'm in essence buying for me, I buy the bags/nets, especially when reduced.
    Originally posted by Doom_and_Gloom
    I hate the way they often just sell a "pack of 6" and there's no indication as to £/100g. Shops have also removed the weighing scales you used to be able to use to check.

    Maybe we should all arm ourselves with a set of pocket scales and a folding table. Sit down in the shop and weigh everything out, do the maths on a bit of paper, then put back what we don't want, and fold up our table into the trolley

    For cheapest/100g I'll browse mysupermarket "as a leisure activity" - and I compare every price on every shelf when I am actually buying stuff.

    As for YS food ... I very very very very very rarely see any of this. Anything I do see reduced is either by 10p or is something expensive/not the food I eat anyway.
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