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    • MSE Callum
    • By MSE Callum 10th Jan 17, 12:07 PM
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    MSE News: Was your car affected by the VW emissions scandal? You could claim £1,000s
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    • 10th Jan 17, 12:07 PM
    MSE News: Was your car affected by the VW emissions scandal? You could claim £1,000s 10th Jan 17 at 12:07 PM
    Drivers left fuming after buying a VW car that pumped out more pollution than advertised could pocket £1,000s in compo...
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    'Was your car affected by the VW emissions scandal? You could claim £1,000s by joining group lawsuit'

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    • mac.d
    • By mac.d 13th Jan 17, 2:43 PM
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    Neither of which has anything to do with the so-called "emissions scandal" then. The VED hasn't and wont change because that's determined by CO2 emissions and MPG hasn't been affected. So, in other words, the car you bought with those factors mentioned is as "green" as it was advertised.
    Originally posted by neilmcl
    I never said it wasn't?

    I'm only concerned if the car has any issues after the 'fix', or if the car's resale/trade-in value is affected by all of this.

    I've not read too much about either of those potential issues up until now, but it is a concern. For me, apart from it being very reliable and a good car to drive, one of the main reason's to buy a VW was because it holds its value well.

    Therefore, if I as a VW owner, am now a little bit circumspect about buying another VW, then its not a huge leap to think that less people will be interested in buying them used, which will mean the value will fall.

    So if the only way to make sure I don't lose out because of VW's wrongdoings is to consider joining some kind of legal action, is that wrong? I'm not keen to do it and quite possibly won't as I don't like the compensation culture nowadays. I'll probably end up being the one to lose out it though.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 13th Jan 17, 2:51 PM
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    I never said it wasn't?

    I'm only concerned if the car has any issues after the 'fix', or if the car's resale/trade-in value is affected by all of this.

    I've not read too much about either of those potential issues up until now, but it is a concern. For me, apart from it being very reliable and a good car to drive, one of the main reason's to buy a VW was because it holds its value well.

    Therefore, if I as a VW owner, am now a little bit circumspect about buying another VW, then its not a huge leap to think that less people will be interested in buying them used, which will mean the value will fall.

    So if the only way to make sure I don't lose out because of VW's wrongdoings is to consider joining some kind of legal action, is that wrong? I'm not keen to do it and quite possibly won't as I don't like the compensation culture nowadays. I'll probably end up being the one to lose out it though.
    Originally posted by mac.d
    Well you did say you purchased your car on the belief that it was the "greener option" and I was merely showing that it was as advertised.

    TBH, I have no objection to anyone seeking compensation if they have, and most importantly, can prove they've suffered a quantifiable loss. However I do find it odd that the first thing a lot of owners are doing is jumping on the old "I've been missold, it's not as greener as I was led to believe" bandwagon when in reality there's been no such evidence of this.

    Good luck with your claim.
    • mac.d
    • By mac.d 13th Jan 17, 3:03 PM
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    Yes and I explained why I went for a diesel VW as it was supposedly greener than a petrol car.

    I know your replies have been all tinged by the people who are going to claim just because they see £££'s and will use any excuse they can find to justify it.

    I'm just peeved with VW. As much as I like my car, I'd probably just be better selling it right away and getting something else. If only I could be bothered with the hassle! I'll no doubt keep it, get the 'fix' done and just look on forlornly as other people grab £1000 compensation. As like you say, for what exactly (apart from my possible loss of trade-in/sale value - of course!)
    • TickersPlaysPop
    • By TickersPlaysPop 26th Jan 17, 1:12 PM
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    Yes and I explained why I went for a diesel VW as it was supposedly greener than a petrol car.

    I know your replies have been all tinged by the people who are going to claim just because they see £££'s and will use any excuse they can find to justify it.

    I'm just peeved with VW. As much as I like my car, I'd probably just be better selling it right away and getting something else. If only I could be bothered with the hassle! I'll no doubt keep it, get the 'fix' done and just look on forlornly as other people grab £1000 compensation. As like you say, for what exactly (apart from my possible loss of trade-in/sale value - of course!)
    Originally posted by mac.d
    Many people are reporting car problems immediately after the fix, so please carefully consider it. Especially since VW have refused to reverse the fix for many people. Lower economy, lower power, particulate filter problems...

    Harcus Sinclair group FAQ page Q49: ".... have commissioned independent tests to try and reach a conclusion on this issue."
    Ask those who post here a question .... who are you?! Consider vested interests before believing comments made by people here. Many are 'buy to let' landlords.
    Peace.
    • kmb500
    • By kmb500 26th Jan 17, 2:20 PM
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    You shouldn't need to justify your loss, these scummy companies should be sued to oblivion and lose everything they have. They need to learn that they cannot get away with cheating and lying.
    • samwardill
    • By samwardill 26th Jan 17, 2:26 PM
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    Many people are reporting car problems immediately after the fix, so please carefully consider it. Especially since VW have refused to reverse the fix for many people. Lower economy, lower power, particulate filter problems...

    Harcus Sinclair group FAQ page Q49: ".... have commissioned independent tests to try and reach a conclusion on this issue."
    Originally posted by TickersPlaysPop
    Thanks TickersPlaysPop. If you were an owner of a affected VW would you:
    - avoid the fix for now
    - join the Harcus Sinclair group?

    I'm not sure what to do.
    • TickersPlaysPop
    • By TickersPlaysPop 27th Jan 17, 8:43 PM
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    Thanks TickersPlaysPop. If you were an owner of a affected VW would you:
    - avoid the fix for now
    - join the Harcus Sinclair group?

    I'm not sure what to do.
    Originally posted by samwardill
    I'm an owner of a 2010 1.6 diesil golf purchased in 2011 and received a letter from VW saying the fix is ready and absolutely do not consider myself an expert on all this. I've read a lot and haven't found anything to make me fully decide.

    I'm holding back from the fix, but remember that the fix is different for different cars. Mine is a hardware and software change. I was told by a administrator at VW mot service, that it was a compulsory fix!

    I am going to keep a very close eye on the law firms taking action, there are 3 groups as far as I can see. There is a good summary on mse written on 10th Jan. So I don't think there are hard deadlines with joining the actions at this point. But is worth registering with them all to help them influence this initial stage. They need a significant number of people for VW to take them seriously. The only official VW response to the harcus action mentions 75 people ! In reality they will, have 10000's.

    http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/reclaim/2017/01/was-your-car-affected-by-the-vw-emissions-scandal-you-could-claim-1000s-by-joining-group-lawsuit

    Hope this helps
    Peace
    Last edited by TickersPlaysPop; 27-01-2017 at 8:45 PM.
    Ask those who post here a question .... who are you?! Consider vested interests before believing comments made by people here. Many are 'buy to let' landlords.
    Peace.
    • sheramber
    • By sheramber 27th Jan 17, 9:19 PM
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    Please can you post the Facebook group name in full? I've tried searching for it but can't find one that has lots of people reporting car problems after the fix.

    Cheers
    Originally posted by TickersPlaysPop
    sorry, just seen this

    The Volkswagen diesel customer forum (Emissions scandal)

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/955027937948541/
    • TickersPlaysPop
    • By TickersPlaysPop 1st Feb 17, 9:30 PM
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    This is proof some of the car 'fixes' cause breakdowns and unreliability....

    http://www.hypermiler.co.uk/dieselgate/the-volkswagon-group-is-systematically-refunding-owners-for-egr-failures-after-the-emissions-fix

    VW provide free replacement of car parts that failed soon after fix was applied...
    Ask those who post here a question .... who are you?! Consider vested interests before believing comments made by people here. Many are 'buy to let' landlords.
    Peace.
    • bigboots
    • By bigboots 20th Mar 17, 4:55 PM
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    VW fix
    Hi all had mine back from fix over a week ago. did over 300miles motorway driving. oh boy it now likes to have a drink.. mpg is now shocking around 45mpg if i am lucky and its only 1.6. it used to be around 59+mpg... on the same trip. i have called them to collect it and double check it was all done. also the letter says i may be charged. anyone else got this issue?....
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 20th Mar 17, 5:00 PM
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    Hi all had mine back from fix over a week ago. did over 300miles motorway driving. oh boy it now likes to have a drink.. mpg is now shocking around 45mpg if i am lucky and its only 1.6. it used to be around 59+mpg... on the same trip. i have called them to collect it and double check it was all done. also the letter says i may be charged. anyone else got this issue?....
    Originally posted by bigboots
    Are the "before and after" figures real mpg or as shown by the trip computer? If the latter, don't rely on them. Unless you've properly measured mpg before and after the fix, you won't know if it has really dropped. My car's trip computer overstates the mpg by about 10%.
    • reeac
    • By reeac 20th Mar 17, 11:00 PM
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    My car's trip computer overstates the mpg by about 10%.
    Originally posted by Aylesbury Duck
    Another VW fiddle?
    • Aylesbury Duck
    • By Aylesbury Duck 20th Mar 17, 11:39 PM
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    Hardly. It's a Toyota. I was mis-sold the car nine years ago. I want to return it for a full refund because it doesn't do the mpg it claims to do. I demand compensation too.
    • kiddy guy
    • By kiddy guy 21st Mar 17, 7:47 AM
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    Honest enough to say when the whole scandal was announced I thought there might be a freebie in this for me. Nothing much, maybe a free service for the inconvenience they were causing. After all this is MSE

    However - and this is a direct response to those who are still claiming ambulance chasers - the fix on my 1.6 Tdi is not being carried out because there are massive issues being reported.

    EGR failures, reduced MPG, other engine related failures. The fix seems to have changed the way the engine runs at different speeds and the torque, and it's also causing more regens on the DPF, so people are having the car go into limp mode.

    VAG are picking up bills of £2k plus post fix from people finding their car fails several hundred miles later and are paying them. Surely if the fix was having no effect on the engine, the VAG group would not be doing these gestures of goodwill. They know what it's doing, but they refuse to publish the independent report in the US.

    There are allegedly dealers who are quietly saying to some of their best customers to not have the fix, knowing the impact.

    The whole thing stinks. VAG are being as transparent as mud and they shouldn't be allowed to get away with this.

    I didn't buy my car necessarily because of NOX emissions but when I do 30k a year, ran my last 1.9TDI to 230k miles, then the fact that this fix is killing people's MPG does mean that it will effect residuals and will cost them more to run. Not forgetting that when the EGR fails in another 30k miles, will VAG be so considerate with their gesture of goodwill? Unlikely...
    • suzi singer
    • By suzi singer 21st Apr 17, 3:00 PM
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    Re: VW is it better to go through Small Claims or join a Group Action?
    Hi I've been affected by this scandal and promised numerous times by VW to fix my car. It was supposed to have been done in September of last year. Now in April, all has gone quiet and I don't know whether to pursue VW through the Small Claims court or to join a Group Action?
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 21st Apr 17, 4:13 PM
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    Hi I've been affected by this scandal and promised numerous times by VW to fix my car. It was supposed to have been done in September of last year. Now in April, all has gone quiet and I don't know whether to pursue VW through the Small Claims court or to join a Group Action?
    Originally posted by suzi singer

    I presume you didnt bother to read ANY of the previous posts, so lets see ... what are your losses?

    What are you going to claim for?
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    • samwardill
    • By samwardill 21st Apr 17, 6:49 PM
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    I presume you didnt bother to read ANY of the previous posts, so lets see ... what are your losses?

    What are you going to claim for?
    Originally posted by forgotmyname
    I'd ignore this forum. It is full of VW stooges. Try the Facebook page at https://m.facebook.com/groups/955027937948541?ref=bookmarks
    • maxmycardagain
    • By maxmycardagain 21st Apr 17, 7:53 PM
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    My 2 year old Skoda was in for its 3rd MOT at a non-dealers garage when an elderly couple came in, thier VW Golf 2ltr Tdi DSG had gone all limp on the M54 and had been towed home, they wanted it collected and repaired, my alarm bells rang when they said "it had been in VW a week ago".....so i asked the question......"for the emissions update?"

    The bloke relied yes

    Couldnt suggest they rip into VW if I wanted my car to pass its test could I really
    Instead of picking fault, pick up a life........ you might like it
    • maxmycardagain
    • By maxmycardagain 21st Apr 17, 7:55 PM
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    Hi I've been affected by this scandal and promised numerous times by VW to fix my car. It was supposed to have been done in September of last year. Now in April, all has gone quiet and I don't know whether to pursue VW through the Small Claims court or to join a Group Action?
    Originally posted by suzi singer
    Affected how?
    Instead of picking fault, pick up a life........ you might like it
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 21st Apr 17, 8:38 PM
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    I've just yesterday bought a 2016 Passat TDI SE.

    I've read the news today and am shocked and horrified to find that i have been scammed by VW.

    Can i return it for a full refund or should i just claim £,£££?
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