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    • katykicker
    • By katykicker 5th Jan 17, 8:02 AM
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    Clixsense, Neobux, Crowdflower 2017 Thread
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    • 5th Jan 17, 8:02 AM
    Clixsense, Neobux, Crowdflower 2017 Thread 5th Jan 17 at 8:02 AM
    This is the new thread for Clixsense. Best of luck for 2017!

    You can find a link to the previous thread here.

    As most of us now use Neobux/other Crowdflower websites for a variety of different purposes/to maximise earnings it is easier to have a better title, to allow others to find this helpful thread.

    As always feel free to talk about anything from these websites, ask for help and advice. If you have a question please feel free to ask, even if you think it may have been asked before.

    We welcomes newbies and older returning members and if you want to read my Clixsense guide then you can do so below.

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    • nickyotron
    • By nickyotron 1st Jul 17, 11:25 PM
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    The end of PTC (CS)
    Gutted about this TBH. Ive made a fair whack from it.

    "Moving forward with change
    1 Jul 2017 03:38 pm
    Members, more than 10 years ago we came online strictly as a PTC. As all things go, the ClixSense business model has changed over the years and with the addition of Crowdflower tasks, offers and surveys our core business has shifted. No longer are we just a PTC, but instead ClixSense has grown to be one of the top performing survey networks in the world.

    While our survey, task and offer business has grown significantly, the PTC side of our business has been on a downward slide for some time now and more so since the loss of Paypal back in February.

    Being in the PTC industry has it's positives and negatives. The positive side of things is that we can provide you with an easy way to earn a little money and for advertisers we can send a large amount of traffic to their websites for a very reasonable price. The negative side of things is a bit more extreme. This caused us to lose our Paypal account (or so they claim), it places us into a high risk category any time we apply for a merchant account or new payment processor. It gives companies a negative feeling about us because this industry is loaded with fraud. What I mean by that is companies who we've approached to partner with us refuse to do so because of our affiliation with PTC. And lastly, from a revenue standpoint, it's not profitable at all.

    With the negatives out weighing the positives, and after 10 years in the PTC business, we have decided to move forward without PTC. Beginning July 15th, 2017 PTC ads will be removed from ClixSense. Along with the removal of PTC we have also decided to remove ClixGrid and the premium upgrades, including the corresponding 8-level commission structure. As of today, July 1st we will stop selling upgrades, PTC advertising and ClixGrid. Those of you who have ad credits on your account may still use them until July 15th. Any member who has purchased an upgrade in the last 24 hours will be immediately refunded today. We are stopping the sales so any remaining ad credits or ClixGrid campaigns can expire.

    With the removal of upgrades we will no longer have 2 membership types. Instead, all members will have the same policies and options available to them and this includes cashouts. We have decided that we will raise the minimum cashout for all members to $10.00. This is still very reasonable and lower than many other companies in this vertical.

    So what does all this mean?
    Well, a lot actually. Any member who had purchased an upgrade in the last year will receive a prorated refund for any unused portion of their upgrade. This refund will be credited back to your account balance on or shortly after July 15th. The amount of prorated refund will be credited at 4.5 cents per day remaining on your premium account.

    We know with the removal of upgrades and the 8 tier affiliate program that this may have an impact on some members with a large downline. To compensate for this ClixSense will now pay an incredible 20% commission on all direct referral activities. We will offer a single level affiliate program only and this commission is the same for all members as we will no longer have 2 different membership types. This change makes all members equal so everyone will have the same earning potential. This means if you are a standard member now (not upgraded) this change has given you a 200% increase in affiliate commissions (from 5% to 20%). For those members who are premium this is a 100% increase from your current affiliate commissions (from 10% to 20%).

    * Please note, the 20% affiliate commission may be adjusted at a later date. We will keep this at 20% for a short time and then we will review our numbers and adjust from there, if necessary. If we end up lowering the commission, it should not be reduced to lower than 15%, which is still more than a premium member was making.

    This new higher commission will generate more money for you than what the 8 tier affiliate program did. The reason is more members will do surveys, tasks and offers than those that would purchase an upgrade. In some cases this change can boost a members earnings significantly.

    The checklist bonus will now give a possible 10% bonus to all members and the requirement for clicking PTC ads & ClixGrid will be removed.

    Daily Checklist Bonus 7.0%
    Activity Extra Bonus 2.0%
    ClixAddon Extra Bonus 1.0%
    Maximum Possible Bonus 10.0%

    We realize this may come as a surprise to you but this is a change that had to be done. ClixSense will continue to be the best it can be and move forward because of your support. We are always looking for new ways for you to earn money and will not stop trying to improve our service.

    Along with all these changes you will also notice a brand new look for ClixSense. A new website layout with a responsive design (mobilefriendly) that is very pleasing to look at and easy to use.

    So to recap:
    • PTC ads will be removed.
    • ClixGrid will be removed
    • Premium upgrades and the corresponding 8-level commission structure, removed
    • Minimum cashout for all members is $10.00
    • Affiliate commissions upped to 20% for all members
    • Checklist bonus will now pay a maximum of 10% if all requirements met.


    We appreciate your business and welcome your comments, questions or ideas.

    Thank you
    The ClixSense Team



    Please note - This is not about Paypal and we do not know if we will be getting them back. Paypal was not the driving factor in this decision so please do not write in asking if we are getting them back."
    • dave2319
    • By dave2319 2nd Jul 17, 11:30 AM
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    I think there's no doubt it's a negative change for most members.
    In some ways you can understand them at least making changes to the PTC ads since they're not profitable for the site, but I'm surprised they can't rectify that by changing the cost to advertisers, or the link values or referral percentages on them.

    One thing that really bugs me though is Jim saying in the forum that Clixsense is still "extremely profitable". So why the need to make changes that negatively affect most members?
    He seems like a generally decent guy, but sounds like they've only got their own profits in mind here, and have decided they can further enhance them even if x number of people leave.
    • Kantankrus Mare
    • By Kantankrus Mare 2nd Jul 17, 12:14 PM
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    Hmmmmm.......not sure how much this will affect me. I am a premium member but with no active referrals. Not quite sure how we will complete a checklist if they are taking away half the stuff thats on it now. At least I should get half my membership fee back.

    Will have to see how it pans out. Only make just over $10 a month anyway which gets redirected to neobux.
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    • purplevamp
    • By purplevamp 2nd Jul 17, 4:36 PM
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    I received my $8 from them today. It's going to take me a long time to get to $10 without the ptc, etc. The surveys pretty much DQ me every time and I don't really do the tasks. Seems like this is the way for a lot of these sites now. I've done well with clixsense over the years too. Such a shame

    Kantankrus Mare ~ I hope you get your money back. I know they stopped doing paypal just as you took out premium membership.
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    • nickyotron
    • By nickyotron 2nd Jul 17, 11:20 PM
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    The irony for me is I bought Premium membership only a week or 2 ago lol
    I must have made about $60 on the PTC over the years which is massively more than the clix grid. They can keep that!
    But what will hurt me most is the lower bonus % now from the checklist.
    • nickyotron
    • By nickyotron 2nd Jul 17, 11:24 PM
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    Ok That was funny. No sooner had I just written the above piece, a new message from CS appears lol

    "Update to changes - July 2nd
    2 Jul 2017 06:13 pm
    Members, after hearing from many of you and your concerns for the new checklist bonus commission, we have listened to your concerns and have decided to adjust the checklist bonus to 16% for everyone, similar to what we have now for our premium accounts. (12% Regular Bonus + 2% Activity Bonus + 2% ClixAddon Bonus). In other words, everyone's accounts will be equivalent to the current premium status and more.

    The 20% affiliate commission will be unchanged.

    Also, because July 15th falls on a weekend, we'd prefer to have the change on a weekday, so the changes will not be effective until Monday July 17th.

    Also some of you had some very good questions and I would like to address those now.

    I have an advertising campaign setup that is linked to the ClixGrid page. What will happen to this once you make this change?


    We will redirect this to our homepage. This will happen for any page that we removed.

    I have sticky ads running that are not set to expire until after the change, what will happen to these?


    We will stop all PTC ads, ClixGrid ads and sticky ads and prorate a refund of any remaining ad credits or sticky ads.

    I purchased an upgrade for one of my referrals. When you cancel all upgrades, will the referral get the money or will I get it?


    All refunds on upgrade purchases will be made back to the person who made the purchase. So, if you purchased an upgrade for your referral, then you will be credited back the balance of that upgrade.

    Now that you have stopped selling ad credits and ClixGrid, what happens to these requirement for the checklist bonus?


    We have removed the PTC and ClixGrid option from the checklist bonus so that is no longer required. Also, 1 cent offers from the offerwalls are excluded from the checklist bonus. If you look at the checklist bonus you will now see that PTC and ClixGrid are no longer required.

    Will you have new advertising banners for us to promote with?


    Yes we will have new banners created in time for our change on July 17th.

    That is all for now. We appreciate your input and look forward to showing you the all new ClixSense.

    You can follow this discussion in our forum here:

    www.clixsense.com/en/…s_July_2nd

    Thank you"


    Seems pressure from members has made them rethink a few things. Including what I was worried about, the lesser % bonus which will now be kept at the old Premium rate of 16% ( Im sure it used to be 18 anyone?..)
    • Kavor
    • By Kavor 3rd Jul 17, 4:28 AM
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    Now that you have stopped selling ad credits and ClixGrid, what happens to these requirement for the checklist bonus?


    We have removed the PTC and ClixGrid option from the checklist bonus so that is no longer required. Also, 1 cent offers from the offerwalls are excluded from the checklist bonus. If you look at the checklist bonus you will now see that PTC and ClixGrid are no longer required.
    Originally posted by nickyotron
    If the highlighted part means that only surveys, tasks and offers greater than 1c count towards completing the 'Complete Offers' part of the checklist then that will be a problem as i don't do tasks and the likelihood of getting 2 surveys on a Saturday and Sunday is very low.

    Just clicked on the 'How?' next to 'Complete your checklist and earn a bonus!', and it says :-

    "Because not everyone has offers or tasks available to do, and to give everyone a chance, you are required to complete only one of the following:
    Complete at least 10 CrowdFlower Tasks; or *
    Complete at least 2 offers or surveys from the offers and surveys pages (except video offers); or *
    Complete at least 5 CrowdFlower Tasks and at least 1 offer or survey from the offers and surveys pages (except video offers); *"

    I assume that Videolab and EngageMe.tv count as video offers.
    Last edited by Kavor; 03-07-2017 at 5:11 AM.
    • Kantankrus Mare
    • By Kantankrus Mare 3rd Jul 17, 11:34 AM
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    I have just completed the first new layout of daily checklist and engageme worked as one of offers.

    Usually leave it running for a while but it wasnt playing ball this morning and the counter moved up just enough to give what I needed for an offer.

    The only good thing about new checklist is that it will be so much quicker. The clixgrid really bored me. Will have to see how long it takes to reach $10 to see if is worth carrying on with. I only really do the market research jobs on the tasks as they are quick and easy and the occasional survey they put on there.
    Make £10 a day challenge Jan/£215.84/ Feb £146.45/ Mar £192.55/Apr £171.20/ May £156.40/june £95.55/ Jul £383.85/Aug £211.60/Sep £111.50
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    • purplevamp
    • By purplevamp 3rd Jul 17, 12:45 PM
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    I didn't realise the new checklist had started today, so have just wasted time doing the clixgrid!!

    engageme is really annoying today. I had to refresh dozens of times before it started with an ad and even then it's only managed to tick off one offer on the list.
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    PTC, etc ~ $240.04 (2016 ~ $696.89)

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    • vampire-girl
    • By vampire-girl 3rd Jul 17, 4:16 PM
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    shame PTC ads are going, as although boring (I would use ipad for other things same time as them and clixgrid) I have been a member since May2013 and earned $134 from them and $24.60 from clixgrid. So would get a few dollars a month just from them so they did add up to a nice boost of the amount

    I also don't task as much as I used to, just pick the easier tasks. Surveys are still worthwhile though for me.
    • nickyotron
    • By nickyotron 4th Jul 17, 4:40 PM
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    Yeah PTC has been ok for me as well. Has worked out about $20 a year for basically doing nothing for me lol
    • Sugarcandy
    • By Sugarcandy 7th Jul 17, 3:14 PM
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    Neobux no longer will have Paypal.


    PayPal contacted us today to notify us they would be terminating our account.
    I won't sugarcoat it, this news came as a total, shocking surprise.

    To add insult to injury, they clarified there was nothing wrong on our end, but since they faced huge problems due to the practices of another known website, which theoretically belonged in the PTC vertical -even though they operated in a completely different way than our business model-, they were now forced to cancel every account belonging to a PTC website, regardless if there is a direct violation of their User Acceptance Policy or not.

    No matter how unfair this might be, we have to remain pragmatic and ensure that the principles that made NeoBux what it is today remain unaffected.

    To that end, we will adapt in order to make this transition as smooth as possible for our members. First of all, no user will lose a single penny and there will be NO "necessary" deductions of any kind. That is guaranteed.

    In addition, any limitations regarding transactions through PayPal, as per our Terms of Service point 5.1, will stop in 4 weeks from now to ensure that no frustrations or long-term limitations are imposed on users who made purchases through PayPal.
    Unfortunately, this is a necessary procedure until we can deal with the necessary bureaucracy in order to withdraw money from our terminated PayPal account. This simply means that before 4 weeks from now (we believe around the end of the month but don't quote me on that) every user that's bound by point 5.1 to PayPal purchases will be free to chose another payment processor. Unfortunately we cannot legally remove that restriction until then so please bear with us on that. As soon as we have the legal ok we'll remove it. This obviously won't affect those not bound to PayPal purchases.

    All the PayPal purchases buttons have been already removed. The cashout button will redirect to this thread so that everyone sees it.

    All the PayPal references from our Terms of Service, FAQ, etc, will be gradually removed as well.

    The only positive note under the current conditions is that users have been shifting away from PayPal and started using other payment processors in the past months, which makes the situation not as difficult as it would have been in the past.

    Finally, this setback will not compromise or affect the pillars upon which NeoBux has been built: Reliability, trust, innovation and transparency.
    We will never become like the ones responsible for this outcome.

    Unfortunately we have to pay for the mistakes of others but at least we'll make things right in the end because we're all a family and that's how it will always be.

    Thank you.
    Last edited by Sugarcandy; 07-07-2017 at 3:16 PM.
    • Kantankrus Mare
    • By Kantankrus Mare 7th Jul 17, 3:26 PM
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    Wow!!! Now I dont know what I am going to do. Going to have to have a real look at the other options for paying into neobux as well as further down the road, hopefully drawing some money from it.

    Make £10 a day challenge Jan/£215.84/ Feb £146.45/ Mar £192.55/Apr £171.20/ May £156.40/june £95.55/ Jul £383.85/Aug £211.60/Sep £111.50
    Walk 2000 miles in 2017....1361.45 miles
    • dave2319
    • By dave2319 7th Jul 17, 6:42 PM
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    Sorry to hear that about Neobux.
    If PayPal really did have huge problems because of the practices of Clixsense I think it would be interesting to hear more about it. At the moment, particularly with some other Get Paid To sites having had problems as well, I think the lack of any real explanation about account freezes and terminations just makes it seem like PayPal are being unreasonable.

    Talking of which, I think it's unfair of Neo to say: "We will never become like the ones responsible for this outcome."
    Maybe there's stuff I don't know about, but both sites have long been reliable payers and hopefully will continue to be even without PayPal.
    • purplevamp
    • By purplevamp 8th Jul 17, 2:17 PM
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    Great! Another one without paypal. I make a fair amount of money on neobux and have never had any problems getting paid. I'm finding the whole ptc, surveys, etc sites are really going down hill lately. Such a shame.
    Mortgage: Was: £154,495 Oct 2039
    Now: £133,696.03 Mar 2038
    MFW #28 £1100/£3,000

    Swagbucks ~ £235 (2016 ~ £340)
    Surveys ~ £213.30 (2016 ~ £407.55)
    PTC, etc ~ $240.04 (2016 ~ $696.89)

    Goodbye Princess Leia

    Money's money my little honey! A rich man's jokes are always funny
    • purplevamp
    • By purplevamp 9th Jul 17, 2:26 PM
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    Quick question ~ for those of you who use payza, how easy is it to withdraw from there? I want to build my total up to avoid wasting some of it on the admin fee but want to make sure it goes to my account easily.
    Mortgage: Was: £154,495 Oct 2039
    Now: £133,696.03 Mar 2038
    MFW #28 £1100/£3,000

    Swagbucks ~ £235 (2016 ~ £340)
    Surveys ~ £213.30 (2016 ~ £407.55)
    PTC, etc ~ $240.04 (2016 ~ $696.89)

    Goodbye Princess Leia

    Money's money my little honey! A rich man's jokes are always funny
    • vampire-girl
    • By vampire-girl 9th Jul 17, 5:43 PM
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    Quick question ~ for those of you who use payza, how easy is it to withdraw from there? I want to build my total up to avoid wasting some of it on the admin fee but want to make sure it goes to my account easily.
    Originally posted by purplevamp
    I find it quite easy. When the money is in the account in $ I convert it to £ and then withdraw to my bank account. It takes about five days for the funds to clear into the account.
    • older_wiser
    • By older_wiser 10th Jul 17, 9:49 AM
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    Its a shame paypal is leaving the PTC business thats why both neobux and clixsense have had paypal taken off the site. with clixsense now doing away with PTC ads i wouldn't be suprised to see paypal back on clix in the near future.

    Has anyone tried skrill i know with neobux you can use skrill and i use skrill alot for other things i do online. My only concern is conversion from dollars to pounds i'm a skrill vip member but i'm not sure if that helps with the conversion rate.

    Good to see some of the old crowd still going strong hope were all making lots of money !
    • older_wiser
    • By older_wiser 10th Jul 17, 9:56 AM
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    Sorry to hear that about Neobux.
    If PayPal really did have huge problems because of the practices of Clixsense I think it would be interesting to hear more about it. At the moment, particularly with some other Get Paid To sites having had problems as well, I think the lack of any real explanation about account freezes and terminations just makes it seem like PayPal are being unreasonable.

    Talking of which, I think it's unfair of Neo to say: "We will never become like the ones responsible for this outcome."
    Maybe there's stuff I don't know about, but both sites have long been reliable payers and hopefully will continue to be even without PayPal.
    Originally posted by dave2319
    Theres a british guy whose on neobux who makes over 1K profit each month he's been doing it since it first started. i bet he was upset when they announced no more paypal he will still be able to use skrill if he doesn't already but for some others paypal was essential for them when using neobux.
    • Kantankrus Mare
    • By Kantankrus Mare 10th Jul 17, 10:41 AM
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    I have a skrill account but only use it to have my clix earnings paid into and then transferred to neo which doesnt cost me anything.

    My issue is going to be adding funds I earn from other sites to neo. Anything I earn into paypal I have been adding to neo to move things along a little quicker. This is only little bits and wont be worth doing looking at some of the charges of other processors.

    So for now.....I will keep an eye on what others here and on the site will be doing and just managing with the earnings I make on neo to keep it chugging along whilst still building my account.

    Great to see you Olderwiser......you were one of my inspirations to get involved with neo a couple of years ago.
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