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    • Zola.
    • By Zola. 12th Dec 16, 1:49 PM
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    Energy scheme scanadal
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    • 12th Dec 16, 1:49 PM
    Energy scheme scanadal 12th Dec 16 at 1:49 PM
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38289461

    Is Arlene to blame for this?
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    • joefizz
    • By joefizz 9th Mar 17, 10:01 AM
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    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39053678

    Well, it seems my original suspicions about the fundamental flaws in the wood pellet scheme were correct. I'm off to congratulate myself with a large cup of tea made on our wood stove, heated by our home grown firewood. Feeling green.
    Originally posted by qwert yuiop
    Ah the report by Chatham house who have as two major donors Chevron and Shell....

    They do have a point though about burning for burnings sake (as with the RHI scheme), growing wood just for pellet boilers isnt exactly carbon neutral - it should be if planted like for like. You are burning 15-30 years worth of growth (absorption) and if its not replaced like for like (or 1.5 times in many areas) or inefficiencies are taken into consideration then it isnt.
    The Chatham house report does recognise that burning recycled wood or wood chippings or wood sawdust or any of the normally discarded wood byproducts is green.
    The problem lies in that a lot of the cases (like RHI) its just pure greed. Why convert new wood here or recycle the old wood (which is more expensive) when you can buy cheaper from the US where its subsidised then import at great ecological expense by shipping half way round the world. There is a lot of woodland and forest in the UK land banked for tax reasons and from a tax point of view doesnt make financial sense to dispose of and replant (I was looking at woodland here last month and prices are ridiculous due to scarcity and use for tax reasons - well beyond what a wood crop would produce).
    The solution to the RHI scheme here is simple. If they burn the same or more in the summer than winter then cut them off. If they have over capacity for the size of area being heated, cut them off.
    If they are also heating domestic properties (or anything else) with the non-domestic scheme cut them off.
    Audit every single site and start with the friends and relatives of the politicians. Then audit them again, and again..
    Let installers get their investment back over a reasonable period but if its being run as a cash cow, cut them off.
    Still waiting on the names of the companies involved to be published...
    • BigAl94
    • By BigAl94 16th Mar 17, 2:57 PM
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    https://www.economy-ni.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/economy/rhi-nondomestic-beneficiaries-ltd-companies-organisations.pdf

    Some serious money received by the poultry industry - probably unsustainable otherwise?
    • saverbuyer
    • By saverbuyer 16th Mar 17, 3:11 PM
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    The car showrooms jumped out at me too.
    • joefizz
    • By joefizz 16th Mar 17, 3:34 PM
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    Not difficult to read into those figures, one company has more than 5 boilers going possibly full tilt, each one earning more than their previous tax returns...
    You would expect heavy engineering plants, clothing factories, care homes etc to run boilers a lot but when you see their sums outweighed by farms, car dealers etc etc you do have to wonder, particularly when dates from say november 2015 on get more money than similar boilers installed in 2013/2014.

    Wonder if they have any auditor jobs going?
    • BigAl94
    • By BigAl94 16th Mar 17, 3:38 PM
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    Company info here https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/
    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 16th Mar 17, 3:45 PM
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    Some tasty payments there.
    • BigAl94
    • By BigAl94 16th Mar 17, 3:49 PM
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    Eco Biomass have done well! Most of half a million http://ulsterherald.com/2017/01/20/tyrone-company-runs-12-rhi-boilers-dry-wood/
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