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    • lisyloo
    • By lisyloo 18th Oct 16, 10:42 AM
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    Chirping smoke alarm from empty flat
    • #1
    • 18th Oct 16, 10:42 AM
    Chirping smoke alarm from empty flat 18th Oct 16 at 10:42 AM
    Hello


    I have a problem with a chirping noise every 40 seconds from the flat next door( I've stuck my ear in their letter box so I'm fairly sure about it).
    I strongly suspect this is a flat battery from a smoke alarm.
    I believe the flat to be empty.
    This has been going on for around a fortnight, every 40 seconds and it's 24/7. I suspect it can keep going for several more weeks.


    I have been in contact with the estate management (city west homes) and also my agent is asking the landlord if he has neighbours contact details but nothing yet.


    My question is are there any agencies that deal with empty homes? This is Pimlico/Westminster.
    or do I need to report it as a statutory nuisance to environmental health (it's not actually that loud in decibels just annoying when you become aware of it).


    Any advice?
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    • G_M
    • By G_M 18th Oct 16, 1:51 PM
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    • #2
    • 18th Oct 16, 1:51 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 1:51 PM
    I'd have rung the fire brigade 2 weeks ago!
    • lisyloo
    • By lisyloo 18th Oct 16, 2:17 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 2:17 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 2:17 PM
    Do you think they will break into a home to stop the annoying noise of a flat battery?
    (it's a different noise to a smoke alarm going off).
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 18th Oct 16, 2:48 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 2:48 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 2:48 PM
    Find the owner's details from Land Registry.
    • teddysmum
    • By teddysmum 18th Oct 16, 3:25 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 3:25 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 3:25 PM
    The police deal with burglar alarms that don't switch off, but they are much more intrusive, being so loud.
    • rach_k
    • By rach_k 18th Oct 16, 3:45 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 3:45 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 3:45 PM
    You have my sympathy. Our next door neighbours have a smoke alarm that has beeped every 33 seconds for the last several months. Last time it happened, they left it beeping for 6 months even though I asked them 3 times (politely!) to sort it. It only stopped when I put a new battery through their letter box. At least it's not quite as loud now they've started keeping their windows closed.
    • lisyloo
    • By lisyloo 18th Oct 16, 3:59 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 3:59 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 3:59 PM
    Find the owner's details from Land Registry.

    I have thought of that, but will it give the address of the flat next door?
    I guess it might be worth paying a few quid.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 18th Oct 16, 4:05 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 4:05 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 4:05 PM
    I have thought of that, but will it give the address of the flat next door?
    Originally posted by lisyloo
    It might, if they're an "accidental landlord" <spit> who used to live there before moving out but keeping it as a let.

    But at least you'll have their name, to start doing some more digging.
    • lisyloo
    • By lisyloo 18th Oct 16, 5:21 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 5:21 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 5:21 PM
    Find the owner's details from Land Registry.

    I've got the freeholder from the land registry who I will try to contact.
    Is there a way to get the leaseholder?
    • Hoploz
    • By Hoploz 18th Oct 16, 5:47 PM
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    Have you checked the property portals to see whether it is being advertised for sale or rent? This would identify an agent who could deal with it.
    • G_M
    • By G_M 18th Oct 16, 5:50 PM
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    I've got the freeholder from the land registry who I will try to contact.
    Is there a way to get the leaseholder?
    Originally posted by lisyloo
    Yes.

    Exactly the same way as finding the freeholder.

    But download the leasehold Title instead of the freehold Title!
    • lisyloo
    • By lisyloo 18th Oct 16, 6:48 PM
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    Well I've identified the free holder (local authority).
    I've reported it to their noise dept as it's the only avenue I could find and I had a call AND a visit tonight which was great.
    What is a little frustrating is the jobsworth treating it as a noise prosecution when I keep saying "you're the freeholder, just call the leaseholder".
    , but anyway hopefully this avenue will provide an answer, because they do have the power to get things done (break in etc.)

    It's just been treated as a noise complaint rather than anything to do with them being the freeholder.

    I obviously selected the wrong option on the LR, but it did clarify exactly who the freeholder was as there are many companies involved in LA housing round here,

    Thanks all.
    Last edited by lisyloo; 18-10-2016 at 7:04 PM.
    • boliston
    • By boliston 18th Oct 16, 7:12 PM
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    I have thought of that, but will it give the address of the flat next door?
    I guess it might be worth paying a few quid.
    Originally posted by lisyloo
    When I last did a search it was 2 pounds per search - you can search ANY address not just next door!
    • adonis
    • By adonis 18th Oct 16, 7:26 PM
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    My smoke alarm/ carbon monoxide detector started saying flat battery in an American accent at 2am the other morning,

    after I got a step from the kitchen and took it down I found the still in date Duracell's (use by 2023) that had come with the branded detector had leaked so I had to take them out clean the contacts and by then decided to put new ones in.
    Why do these things always start in the middle of the night.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 18th Oct 16, 7:38 PM
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    They leaked because they were flat, not because they were somehow age-expired.
    • lisyloo
    • By lisyloo 18th Oct 16, 7:42 PM
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    When I last did a search it was 2 pounds per search - you can search ANY address not just next door!
    Originally posted by boliston
    Yes but what I meant was it might tell me that

    12 acacia avenue was owned by

    My smith, 12 acacia avenue - which is no help whatsoever.
    • lisyloo
    • By lisyloo 18th Oct 16, 7:46 PM
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    Things have really started moving now.
    The flat is tenanted by the LA but through a management company.
    The LA (who happens to be the free holder) has served notice now, management company have no keys, can't get in touch with tenant and are panicking. The LA will break in tomorrow night if no-one can be contacted. Happy with that result.
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 18th Oct 16, 7:47 PM
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    Yes but what I meant was it might tell me that

    12 acacia avenue was owned by

    My smith, 12 acacia avenue - which is no help whatsoever.
    Originally posted by lisyloo
    But if it tells you 12 Acacia Avenue is owned by Tarquin Fortescue-Curlicue of 12 Acacia Avenue, and there's a Tarquin Fortescue-Curlicue living a mile or five away, then you've got a good starting point, right?
    • lisyloo
    • By lisyloo 18th Oct 16, 8:04 PM
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    I agree and obviously more difficult if it's john smith.

    In this case it's owned by the LA and not a private individuals (some of the flats in this block are private and some LA).
    • adonis
    • By adonis 18th Oct 16, 8:07 PM
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    No they leaked because Duracell are not what they are cracked up to be and there is a lot of complaints about them,even leaking in the packets, had they been cheap batteries I could understand it and the alarm has been checked weekly, they wasn't flat.
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