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    • tori.k
    • By tori.k 18th Oct 16, 9:56 AM
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    Help for a technophobe please
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    • 18th Oct 16, 9:56 AM
    Help for a technophobe please 18th Oct 16 at 9:56 AM
    Can anyone advise me on the kit I need, I would like to transfer our DVD collection onto a hard drive that can be used with the TV so I can free up space. is there some sort of plug and play machine that I would be able to do this with ?
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    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 18th Oct 16, 1:50 PM
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    There are ways to do this, you'd use software to rip the DVDs to your hard drive.

    This in itself is not illegal, you can stil legally make copies of your own movies and music, it is illegal to distribute said copies.

    However there's no way to know if your doing this, so there is software known as DRM (digital rights management) which can quite aggressively mess up you PC if it detects you have any sort of DVD ripping software onboard. DRM comes from many sources, it's usually packaged in with PC games, it can even install from DVDs.

    I'm not going to recommend any software because in all honesty, if you don't know what your doing, there's a really good chance you'll regret it.

    Ironically, it being so difficult to copy your owned DVDs, is why so many illegal download sites exist.
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    • bsod
    • By bsod 18th Oct 16, 2:57 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 2:57 PM
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    strange answer, it's not difficult at all, and (unless you pick a rogue tool to do the encoding) doesn't aggressively mess up anything. When installing any software, decline any additional toolbars or software offered during the installation process.

    https://www.winxdvd.com/dvd-ripper/

    You will have to choose a format and storage medium that works with your tv/pvr/stb/usb enabled dvd player, not all of which support hard disk storage, but they may support sd cards or usb flash drives which come in reasonable capacities now

    mp4 is the usual choice - a 90 minute dvd needs around 1GB of space
    Last edited by bsod; 18-10-2016 at 3:23 PM.
    • tori.k
    • By tori.k 18th Oct 16, 5:18 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 5:18 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 5:18 PM
    Thanks to you both, so in a nut shell I just download the DVD to an eternal hard drive the plug that into a USB enabled DVD. I've downloaded CD to my computer in the past im guessing it work's the same way with DVD.
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    • bsod
    • By bsod 18th Oct 16, 5:22 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 5:22 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 5:22 PM
    eternal hard drives would sell like hot cakes

    download is not the correct term, but it doesn't matter.

    you put the dvd in, convert it to mp4 using the software, copy the resulting file to a usb flash drive, insert it into anything with a usb connector that plays mp4's and press play.

    hard disk drives require more power than a flash drive, so a lot of devices don't support them. Also some that do may require the drive to be reformatted, which will wipe all data on it, so be careful
    Last edited by bsod; 18-10-2016 at 5:25 PM.
    • Cornucopia
    • By Cornucopia 18th Oct 16, 5:27 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 5:27 PM
    Thanks to you both, so in a nut shell I just download the DVD to an eternal hard drive the[n] plug that into a USB enabled DVD. I've downloaded CD to my computer in the past im guessing it work's the same way with DVD.
    Originally posted by tori.k
    Yes. Another vote for Strider's answer being somewhat wide of the mark - certainly technically.

    DRM is encoded on the DVD (and respected by most PCs), and is intended to make it more difficult (or impossible) to rip (copy) some DVDs. There is no infestation of the PC involved.

    The issue I have found when doing this in the past is that the default file types that come out of the ripping process are not compatible with the players on many PCs and especially those on TVs and STBs. (For the technically minded, the DVDs contain ".VOB" files for the main content, and players typically want MP4 files).

    Video conversion used to be a tortuous process, too. Perhaps the above recommendation solves all of that? I shall be delighted if that is the case.

    As an aside, there are lots of older films on Youtube, and OnlineVideoConverter makes a reasonable job of converting them to MP4s in most cases.

    https://www.onlinevideoconverter.com/

    There's also Get_iplayer that can download films & other content from BBC iPlayer as MP4s...

    https://squarepenguin.co.uk/downloads/
    Last edited by Cornucopia; 18-10-2016 at 5:33 PM.
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    • flashg67
    • By flashg67 18th Oct 16, 5:33 PM
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    • 18th Oct 16, 5:33 PM
    I use either BDlot DVD Iso Master (free) or DVDFab (free trial then paid) to rip to an ISO file and play on a PC using VLC player Free).

    DVDFab allows you to rip just the main movie without trailers, menus etc.

    Then store them on several large HDD's to play on my very cheap Dell PC attached to my TV, so I'm not constantly unplugging stuff. ISO creates a large file, but retains DVD quality which I prefer when watched on a large screen.

    The above might seem complicated, but it's not once you get the knack, it's just time consuming ripping them first time, as it is with all the methods given
    • bsod
    • By bsod 18th Oct 16, 5:35 PM
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    winxdvd solves most of the torture, it has occasional problems with some discs, and does output extra's to different mp4's though, so not as perfect as an iso rip, but the resulting files are much smaller

    you can get a little gizmo that plays iso from hard disk that would be neater than a pc.
    Last edited by bsod; 18-10-2016 at 5:40 PM.
    • tori.k
    • By tori.k 18th Oct 16, 5:39 PM
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    Many thank I now understand..that I should pay someone to do the job for me
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    • Fightsback
    • By Fightsback 18th Oct 16, 5:40 PM
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    Or use the excellent open-source Handbrake, windows users for encrypted DVD ripping you need to add the libdvdcss.dll library:

    http://lifeofageekadmin.com/how-to-rip-dvds-using-vlc-and-handbrake-on-windows/
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    • bsod
    • By bsod 18th Oct 16, 5:43 PM
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    Many thank I now understand..that I should pay someone to do the job for me
    Originally posted by tori.k
    no reason at all to do that

    you should start by finding out what your tv or whatever supports.
    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 19th Oct 16, 1:14 PM
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    what kit do you have, TV ,DVD player smart box,

    check what they can use for inputs.

    then probably the more important bit do have access to a PC that can do the job and time(quite a lot) and will you need to buy something to store the data

    if you need the space the DVD take up there must be a lot.

    How often do you watch them is this really going to be worth the effort.

    Might be better off with a on demand method.

    Another option might be to remove them all from the cases and use a more compact storage method(with index)

    have a look at case logic dvd storage.
    (you can keep the cases elsewhere)
    https://www.caselogic.com/en/gb/products/cd_dvd/albums

    the 336 one is Size 32 x 14 x 29 cm.

    about the same as a typical bag for life
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