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    • dawsss18
    • By dawsss18 17th Oct 16, 6:09 PM
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    can't afford to live on SSP
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    • 17th Oct 16, 6:09 PM
    can't afford to live on SSP 17th Oct 16 at 6:09 PM
    Hello all,

    I am writing on behalf of my parents.

    My Mother (61 years old) is off work due to having a hip replacement (3 months recovery) and can't go back till she is fit to work.

    My Father (61 years old) is also off work due to a car crash. His work won't let him back till his doctor has said he is fit enough to go back. His doctor won't let him go back as they have found an aneurysm on his brain. So he has to have more tests to find out if the aneurysm was due to the car crash or not.

    They are both being told they aren't allowed to go back to work yet, even though they want to go back and feel that they are fit enough to go back. So they are both losing out on their wage just because the doctors won't allow them back to work.

    They are both receiving SSP, but 88 per week per person is not enough to cover their rent and the rest of their bills.

    They have tried claiming some money to help pay for their bills, but because I live with them and I work full time they aren't allowed to claim anything. But I have my own bills to pay for, I can't afford to pay for myself and my parents rent and bills.

    Does anyone know what benefits they would be entitled to? It seems that they would be better off if they didn't work at all - that's how messed up it is.

    Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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    • xylophone
    • By xylophone 18th Oct 16, 12:35 AM
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    Maybe the parents earn enough normally to not consider asking their son for any board.
    Then he counts himself lucky and pays the lion's share of the rent and bills in his parents' time of need?

    And it is worrying that his parents have no emergency savings.
    • LABMAN
    • By LABMAN 18th Oct 16, 1:22 AM
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    dawssss18 it's payback time....dig deep!
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    • Sncjw
    • By Sncjw 18th Oct 16, 8:06 AM
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    Wonder how big the Debts are if they couldn't afford to pay it off earning 3k a month
    • Placitasgirl
    • By Placitasgirl 18th Oct 16, 9:23 AM
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    I'm assuming from your post that neither of your parents has cover for Accident, Sickness or Unemployment? That's a real oversight given the level of their income. Not judging, just stating a fact.

    Although it wouldn't help in the current situation, it would be very wise for them to consider taking this out for future cover, as if their income is at this level but they have no savings to draw on should they be unable to work or find themselves unemployed at any stage in the future.
    • pmlindyloo
    • By pmlindyloo 18th Oct 16, 10:10 AM
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    Your parents need to apply for housing benefit and council tax deduction. Forms can be obtained from your local council.

    The amount of housing benefit paid will be assessed on the present rent rather than the local housing allowance amount as, in these circumstances, there is a 13 week protection (given if they haven't claimed HB in the last 52 weeks and could afford the rent when they took on the tenancy)

    This 13 week protection is given so that your parents have time to return to work.

    As already said, there will be a non dependent deduction applied for both housing benefit and council tax deduction and you should be paying, at least, that amount. e

    You can look up the amount of CT reduction on your local council website.

    Your parents need to speak to the utility companies (see if they have built up any credit, for example) explain the situation and ask for a reduced payment.

    Any other creditors can also be informed and they can be put on a token payment until they go back to work.

    The amount they receive can then be used for the necessities - food/travelling etc.

    With careful planning and your help they should manage OK.

    The amount they are receiving is more than they would get on JSA so it can be done and, for them, it is hopefully going to be a temporary situation.
    • deannatrois
    • By deannatrois 18th Oct 16, 11:00 AM
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    Please understand, its not judgement, its trying to help. In these situations when there is no clear return to work date, and not enough money is coming in, everything has to be considered. Querying savings is apt because even without the illnesses that caused interruptions to earnings, they are of an age where savings will become more and more important.

    There is a lot they can do to help themselves, and yes I am afraid that does include looking at outgoings, which bills are more important than others, and also includes looking at what is spent on things like food. When my money was halved, I paid rent before everything else, and reduced what I spent on food. Everything else had to wait except for real essentials. I'm afraid benefits are never going to be the same as your parents previous earnings, so cut backs WILL have to be made.

    I hope you are having some success investigating what HLA can be paid.

    I might have missed it, but it might be worth looking to see if pensions can be drawn on as suggested earlier.
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