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    • lizards
    • By lizards 16th Oct 16, 1:16 PM
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    Old address on V5C and looking to part-ex
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    • 16th Oct 16, 1:16 PM
    Old address on V5C and looking to part-ex 16th Oct 16 at 1:16 PM
    We're looking to buy a new car on PCP and part exchange our old one.

    I've just located the V5C and to my horror I realise I didn't update the address from when we moved (in a hurry and at a very stressful time, not that this is an excuse) 18 months ago. For the record I did remember to do my driving license and all the other stuff at least! I guess because car tax is online now, that's why I didn't realise before this point or I'd have seen the forwarded on reminder at renewal time.

    We've had mail forwarding set up since we moved so I'm 99.9% sure I don't have any speeding tickets etc, so that's hopefully not an issue.

    However, what should I do with the V5C? We might be part-ex in the next two weeks, and chances are high the new one with our correct address on won't be back in time.

    Obviously I'll take photos of it if I do post it off as evidence it exists, but would that be enough for the dealer? Would it be better to just leave it and present it with the wrong address on?

    Thanks!!
    Last edited by lizards; 16-10-2016 at 1:22 PM.
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    • Fat Walt
    • By Fat Walt 16th Oct 16, 1:19 PM
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    I'd just leave it.

    It'll cause more problems trying to sell it without the V5.
    • lizards
    • By lizards 16th Oct 16, 1:24 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 1:24 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 1:24 PM
    Thanks, that's what I'm thinking.. after all we can prove we lived at the old address from our credit records if nothing else.

    I'm just wondering how strict a car dealer desperate for a sale is going to be! If it was a private sale and not a part-ex it might be a different matter of course.
    • Car 54
    • By Car 54 16th Oct 16, 2:39 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 2:39 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 2:39 PM
    Are you paying the tax by DD?
    • peter_the_piper
    • By peter_the_piper 16th Oct 16, 2:40 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 2:40 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 2:40 PM
    Why not update the V5, wait a few weeks for DVLA to do their stuff then look for a new car.
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    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 16th Oct 16, 4:16 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 4:16 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 4:16 PM
    Update the V5C it will be back within a week, bought a car on Monday afternoon and had the new one document arrive on Wednesday.
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    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 16th Oct 16, 4:59 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 4:59 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 4:59 PM
    I guess because car tax is online now, that's why I didn't realise before this point or I'd have seen the forwarded on reminder at renewal time.
    Originally posted by lizards
    Reminders are still sent. It just hasn't been forwarded...
    • shaun from Africa
    • By shaun from Africa 16th Oct 16, 5:11 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 5:11 PM
    I would get the address on the V5 updated with the DVLA just in case you have any outstanding traffic offences lurking.
    If you had triggered a speeding camera then it's possible that the NIP was sent to your old address and the current occupant simply binned it.
    Unlikely, but worth finding out.
    • lizards
    • By lizards 16th Oct 16, 7:25 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 7:25 PM
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    • 16th Oct 16, 7:25 PM
    Thanks all :-)

    Are you paying the tax by DD?
    Originally posted by Car 54
    Yep, paying it by DD. They send me emails. The royal mail forwarding has been pretty reliable before now and even when it screws up, our brilliant postie still passes stuff on!

    I tend to keep to the limit, never had a ticket in 20+ years of driving, but I guess it's still technically possible, just extremely unlikely.

    We *could* wait a few weeks, but if the right car pops up (we've been checking dealer stock daily as there's a 4-6 month wait on custom builds) before it comes back it would be very frustrating to miss out.

    If I knew we would get the form back within a week it would be a no-brainer to send it off as probably the paperwork would take that long, but 2-4 weeks is not good.
    • peter_the_piper
    • By peter_the_piper 17th Oct 16, 9:09 AM
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    Send off the docs and probably get back within 2 weeks. Don't send off and be unsure as to whether the car of my dreams is missed. I know what I'd do.
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    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 17th Oct 16, 9:13 AM
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    Thanks all :-)



    Yep, paying it by DD. They send me emails. The royal mail forwarding has been pretty reliable before now and even when it screws up, our brilliant postie still passes stuff on!

    I tend to keep to the limit, never had a ticket in 20+ years of driving, but I guess it's still technically possible, just extremely unlikely.

    We *could* wait a few weeks, but if the right car pops up (we've been checking dealer stock daily as there's a 4-6 month wait on custom builds) before it comes back it would be very frustrating to miss out.

    If I knew we would get the form back within a week it would be a no-brainer to send it off as probably the paperwork would take that long, but 2-4 weeks is not good.
    Originally posted by lizards
    Surely any decent dealer will be able to check what other dealers have on order (mine can) and the dealers swap cars around.
    • lizards
    • By lizards 17th Oct 16, 10:24 PM
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    I asked a dealer today what we should do, and he said as long as the name is the same (which of course it is!) it wouldn't be a problem. Whether he's telling the truth or just wants the sale, who knows!!

    If it was guaranteed two weeks I probably would take it, but the government site says four weeks, only chaseable after six. I believe they're a lot quicker when it's transfer of ownership rather than a simple address change, as one is obviously more important (usually)

    Do dealers swap cars around? I thought, especially when it's franchises, they guard their stock quite jealously?
    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 17th Oct 16, 10:37 PM
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    Do dealers swap cars around? I thought, especially when it's franchises, they guard their stock quite jealously?
    Originally posted by lizards
    Sure they do -

    "I'll swap you two green ones for a red and a blue."

    but seriously, they do exchange them as every car in their showroom (or on order) has been specced by a salesman simply making an educated guess as what might be wanted.

    They are all custom builds as you mentioned in post #1

    The salesmen usually just choose the most popular options.

    Have an ask - if you're looking for a particular option - maybe you'll get lucky.

    But what's wrong with ordering the exact spec you want - 4 to 6 months isn't that long a wait.

    What car are we talking about here anyway.
    • lizards
    • By lizards 18th Oct 16, 8:14 AM
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    Yep, I'm aware they're all custom as guessed by the sales team! There have been several that have been very close, so it's a matter of time until we get one with the right spec. We're using carwow to browse models (anyone know of anything similar?) and there's already several we might consider that would be "close enough".

    Our old car is starting to reach the point where we might have to put a bit of work in (broken A/C compressor, dodgy starter motor which may or may not last much longer). I wouldn't mind fixing those things normally as we do, but given we know we're upgrading very soon, it's not a worthwhile investment really and it makes sense to cut losses and get a new car before something else goes wrong. It's a Volvo XC90 we're after (large family)
    • AdrianC
    • By AdrianC 18th Oct 16, 8:24 AM
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    Yep, I'm aware they're all custom as guessed by the sales team! There have been several that have been very close, so it's a matter of time until we get one with the right spec.
    Originally posted by lizards
    I think you're making a leap of logic there.

    The spec of cars ordered for stock is not really "guessed" - they're chosen to appeal to what the majority of buyers want. You may get the odd cancelled order, which is some other punter's personal choice. If you want a specific spec, then you're really going to need to order it. Sure, it may take a while - especially if it's built in the far east. But your particular spec may take a LOT longer to come up on the lottery of stock orders, or may never come up.

    You're after an XC90 - so a newly-released model where demand is likely to be outstripping supply for a while. Go for the order. If your spec does pop up in the meantime, the dealer are quite likely to be happy to convert your factory order to a stock order.
    • Herzlos
    • By Herzlos 18th Oct 16, 8:53 AM
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    I asked a dealer today what we should do, and he said as long as the name is the same (which of course it is!) it wouldn't be a problem. Whether he's telling the truth or just wants the sale, who knows!!
    Originally posted by lizards
    It's unlikely they'll reject it; chances are they won't even notice the address is different (plus, what's to say you've only got one address ).
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 18th Oct 16, 3:16 PM
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    I would be more worried about having got fines and had your licence revoked than what the car dealer says/wants.
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    • lizards
    • By lizards 18th Oct 16, 6:57 PM
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    Honestly, I'm fairly sure something will come up very soon, there's already some out there we'd be happy with and we're not that fussed about a few compromises. Some stuff they can add after market anyway like a towbar. We don't want anything unusual, which is probably why there are so many that are close - as you say, the majority of buyers.

    I've read on other forums that sometimes they can get arsey about swapping around if you already have one on order. And we really do need a new car sooner rather than later - this one is starting to reach tipping point where it becomes far less economical to repair. It's making sounds it never used to, and there's other niggly things that could suggest bigger problems. I don't want to run the risk of being stranded without a car at all, and months to wait for the new one to come in (or being forced to compromise more than we'd have had to because we're in a hurry)

    I'm really not worried about fines - between the fact I've not had one the whole time I've been driving (20+ years) as I tend to keep to the limit and not take risks, drive only around 6000 miles a year and the active mail forwarding at my old address, I think it's extremely unlikely. They have my current address for my license anyway so if it was revoked I am quite sure I'd have heard about it by now.
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