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    • ampersand
    • By ampersand 15th Oct 16, 12:25 PM
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    Javascript help please
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    • 15th Oct 16, 12:25 PM
    Javascript help please 15th Oct 16 at 12:25 PM
    As above please -
    [Well that's even more ridiculous now. pop-up msg won't paste directly here, so have had to create it as a doc.]


    JavaScript is required on your browser to use this service. Please turn on JavaScript or upgrade your browser to have JavaScript capability.

    I can't alter anything. Javascript is on.
    Want to add funds to a site regularly used for paid comms,
    vital to recipient.
    This is the 1st time such a msg has appeared.
    Have tried all solutions via mozilla firefox, noscript alert, windows xp etc. to no avail.

    Clear, non-gobbledygook advice would be much appreciated. Thankyou :-)
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    • Fightsback
    • By Fightsback 15th Oct 16, 12:43 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 12:43 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 12:43 PM
    Noscript > allow scripts globally, ignore the dangerous warning. Then close tab and reopen.

    XP ? You really should get a more secure OS.
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
    • onomatopoeia99
    • By onomatopoeia99 15th Oct 16, 12:48 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 12:48 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 12:48 PM
    So are you using Firefox with noscript on windows XP? You mention all three things in your post but don't actually say if you get the message when using that combination of products.

    If you're on XP, please get something newer.
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    • ampersand
    • By ampersand 15th Oct 16, 1:50 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 1:50 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 1:50 PM
    Thankyou both.

    Comments re: windows xp - this is a notspot area, with connectivity nose-diving over last 2 yrs.

    I do have 'something newer'. Laptop bought for NZ journey 2 yrs back has never functioned here.
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    Will try 'Noscript > allow scripts globally, ignore the dangerous warning'. but never know which item in the usually long noscript list is the obstacle to allow, temporarily or globally.
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    'People don't want much. They want: "Someone to love, somewhere to live, somewhere to work and something to hope for."
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    ***JE SUIS CHARLIE***
    'It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere' François-Marie AROUET


    • Rubidium
    • By Rubidium 15th Oct 16, 2:28 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 2:28 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 2:28 PM
    Thankyou both.

    Comments re: windows xp - this is a notspot area, with connectivity nose-diving over last 2 yrs.

    I do have 'something newer'. Laptop bought for NZ journey 2 yrs back has never functioned here.
    #
    Will try 'Noscript > allow scripts globally, ignore the dangerous warning'. but never know which item in the usually long noscript list is the obstacle to allow, temporarily or globally.
    Originally posted by ampersand
    There is no point using NoScript if you are going to "Allow scripts globally"

    For the website that you are trying to make a payment to choose the "Temporarily allow all of this page"

    All explained here

    There is no logical reason that your newer laptop will not work just like your old one in your "Notspot" so you should investigate what the problem is pronto!
    • Fightsback
    • By Fightsback 15th Oct 16, 3:16 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 3:16 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 3:16 PM
    There is no point using NoScript if you are going to "Allow scripts globally"
    Originally posted by Rubidium
    No point using noscript really if you are going to use XP, it's like padlocking the front door but leaving the back wide open.

    Allow globally is the quick and dirty method as you get a cascade of scripts that are conditional on other scripts loading with script heavy sites, a lot of clicking. Re-enable after you have finished with the site.
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
    • ampersand
    • By ampersand 15th Oct 16, 5:30 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 5:30 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 5:30 PM
    Writing from mob. on comparative heights of The Gallops, some miles away.
    Have been able to top up comms a/c as normal, sans problème.

    I appreciate the comments, but assure you the cauchemars of tinternet, all radio, all phones around here have not been resolved by any one, any org., any Meister over last 2yrs.

    At least we know that driving somewhere else usually enables function.
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    • AndyPix
    • By AndyPix 15th Oct 16, 9:24 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 9:24 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 9:24 PM
    No point using noscript really if you are going to use XP, it's like padlocking the front door but leaving the back wide open.
    Originally posted by Fightsback

    I have to disagree slightly there my old china ..


    Scripts are the things that exploit the vulnerabilities in the said OS.
    With scripts disabled, the biggest attack vector is removed.


    All you have to worry about then are loaded PDF files, macro enabled office docs, and of course the age old downloading and running of random .exe, .bat files etc
    Running with scissors since 1978
    • Fightsback
    • By Fightsback 15th Oct 16, 10:27 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 10:27 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 10:27 PM
    Scripts are the things that exploit the vulnerabilities in the said OS.
    With scripts disabled, the biggest attack vector is removed
    Originally posted by AndyPix
    Erm, not exactly. It may mitigate but it's by no means foolproof if the script and the malware are hosted on the compromised server you are visiting and you have whitelisted it as sites rely so much on JS you need to enable so many for it to function properly, then boom. Malware doesn't stop evolving and neither should your security procedures.

    Security is a process and not a product, doing something about XP is far more important. Remember this, no scripts required ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Metafile_vulnerability

    Won't stop this either:

    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/security/ms16-026.aspx
    Last edited by Fightsback; 15-10-2016 at 10:37 PM.
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 16th Oct 16, 12:39 AM
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    So basically, usual story, shock horror, being an idiot and opening stuff you shouldn't might get your computer infected......... So what is new?

    Nothing wrong with XP, it's a solid OS, so it doesn't support newer IE versions and doesn't support later DirectX versions, but don't be an idiot and nothing bad will happen.

    I tell you one thing for absolute certain, defence sector most likely still use WinXP, because it's solid, it's reliable and it's time proven. It's also used in mass manufacture environments, where these multi-million £ machines often run hardware that could be decades old, purely because it's reliable.
    Last edited by Strider590; 16-10-2016 at 12:44 AM.
    Having the last word isn't the same as being right.......

    "Never confuse education with intelligence"
    • Fightsback
    • By Fightsback 16th Oct 16, 10:55 AM
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    I tell you one thing for absolute certain, defence sector most likely still use WinXP, because it's solid, it's reliable and it's time proven.
    Originally posted by Strider590
    Really ?

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/12/drone_consoles_linux_switch/
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
    • Strider590
    • By Strider590 16th Oct 16, 1:54 PM
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    If you believe that drones are the only thing they use PCs for, then your living in Narnia......
    Having the last word isn't the same as being right.......

    "Never confuse education with intelligence"
    • Fightsback
    • By Fightsback 16th Oct 16, 2:40 PM
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    If you believe that drones are the only thing they use PCs for, then your living in Narnia......
    Originally posted by Strider590
    And ?

    Very informative on the works of C S Lewis.
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
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