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    • Castle
    • By Castle 15th Oct 16, 12:09 PM
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    POPLA standards fall even lower
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    • 15th Oct 16, 12:09 PM
    POPLA standards fall even lower 15th Oct 16 at 12:09 PM
    As reported by the "Parking Prankster":-
    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/popla-competence-continues-on-downhill.html
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 15th Oct 16, 12:18 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 12:18 PM
    Amy Smith the so called assessor makes POPLA look like imbeciles

    Maybe she was trained by WHOPLA
    Last edited by beamerguy; 15-10-2016 at 12:38 PM.
    RBS - MNBA - CAPITAL ONE - LLOYDS

    DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR
    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 15th Oct 16, 1:55 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 1:55 PM
    If that were me I would write to the ppc and copy in the Muppets at POPLA and ask them to take me to court, so I could expose to a judge what a useless bunch of imbeciles and dozy scamming muppets they all are.
    To quote the words of the great Count Arthur Strong "You Couldn't make it up"
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 15th Oct 16, 2:07 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 2:07 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 2:07 PM
    The PPC had no cause to request keeper details. The DVLA had no cause to give them. Complaints to all of them, plus the BPA, PoPLA, Trading Standards, the local council, local MP, Mrs May, and local and national press are required to highlight this scam.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 15th Oct 16, 5:46 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 5:46 PM
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    Now i can post again...

    If this was me then i would go full bore, doing everything outlined below:
    The PPC had no cause to request keeper details. The DVLA had no cause to give them. Complaints to all of them, plus the BPA, PoPLA, Trading Standards, the local council, local MP, Mrs May, and local and national press are required to highlight this scam.
    Originally posted by Fruitcake
    As well as a full on at the parking company, if this car park was or is attached to a store/landowner then the landowner who took the PPC on will need to feel the brunt of any action.
    This would form an ultimatum, Tell the PPc that the decision made by POPLA is being rejected in its entirety, and as such the PPC should cancel the charge with immediate effect so as not to waste time, as no payment will be made without a court order

    Should the PPC continue to pursue this matter then it will be charged at £19 per hour or part there of for each letter/item sent to the registered keeper demanding money
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 15th Oct 16, 7:51 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 7:51 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 7:51 PM
    I see from streetview the PPC is the not so sharp NCP and the car park is for Cannons Park railway station so possibly comes under railway bye-laws too.
    To quote the words of the great Count Arthur Strong "You Couldn't make it up"
    • daveyjp
    • By daveyjp 15th Oct 16, 8:11 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 8:11 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 8:11 PM
    Love the statement that the motorist has failed to prove they were elsewhere, so they must have been parked in the car park!

    Fools, but what do they have to lose? No doubt the contract they are obviously losing money on (eventually), but the £27 paid by the PPC is banked and now its over to the PPC to decide what to do.
    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 15th Oct 16, 9:05 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 9:05 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 9:05 PM
    If the person to which this topic relates to is posting on here, then please come along.
    As for proof of location, iPhones and Android phones have some sort of location history tracking built in whih could bbe used to show the Driver was elsewhere
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 15th Oct 16, 9:40 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 9:40 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 9:40 PM
    Love the statement that the motorist has failed to prove they were elsewhere, so they must have been parked in the car park!

    Fools, but what do they have to lose? No doubt the contract they are obviously losing money on (eventually), but the £27 paid by the PPC is banked and now its over to the PPC to decide what to do.
    Originally posted by daveyjp
    If the person to which this topic relates to is posting on here, then please come along.
    As for proof of location, iPhones and Android phones have some sort of location history tracking built in whih could bbe used to show the Driver was elsewhere
    Originally posted by Half_way
    But the PPC muppets have shown where the vehicle was, outside the car park.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
    • yotmon
    • By yotmon 15th Oct 16, 9:45 PM
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    If the person to which this topic relates to is posting on here, then please come along.
    As for proof of location, iPhones and Android phones have some sort of location history tracking built in whih could bbe used to show the Driver was elsewhere
    Originally posted by Half_way
    The Popla adjudicator would probably argue that it only proves that the phone was in another place - not the driver.
    • Ralph-y
    • By Ralph-y 15th Oct 16, 9:50 PM
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    "The Popla adjudicator would probably argue that it only proves that the phone was in another place - not the driver."



    Oh dear Amy .... what have you done

    Ralph
    • Marktheshark
    • By Marktheshark 15th Oct 16, 9:57 PM
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    Whats the barr ?
    Whats the point at which we inform people that POPLA is not independent and are not fit for purpose ?

    In this case the clearly defined legal boundary can be seen, the car is on the public highway and outside land owned by the car park.

    I call it, I call it now, POPLA are no longer fit for purpose and not worth appealing to.
    They are Done, all we are doing is legitimizing them, filling their coffers with cash, making their sham profitable.

    They took this contract on to make money, this forum is helping them do that very nicely.
    Brexit will become whatever they invent it to be.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 15th Oct 16, 10:34 PM
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    It is frustrating because that POPLA appeal was winnable and it doesn't read as though the appellant actually said 'the photos are outside the car park boundary and show the car doing a turn on the public highway. The car did not enter this site at all and this is proved by the reversing lights showing the car was turning OUTSIDE the site'.

    Maybe the person just appealed saying: 'I didn't park' and not much detail so Amy didn't realise the car was turning? She should certainly have observed the car wasn't shown in the car park though!

    We also had a stupid one here this week where POPLA told a RK in NI to pay!
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • pappa golf
    • By pappa golf 15th Oct 16, 10:39 PM
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    however , it proves that the person who was adjudicating did NOT look at the photographic evidence
    Have YOU had to walk 500 miles?
    Were you advised to walk 500 more?
    You could be entitled to compensation.
    Call the Pro Claimers NOW.
    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 16th Oct 16, 11:05 AM
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    Obviously a story for the Daily Mail.
    • esmerobbo
    • By esmerobbo 17th Oct 16, 8:13 AM
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    Wouldn't a normal person or even a POPLA assessor wonder why a car would reverse into a car park?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 17th Oct 16, 9:22 AM
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    And they should notice basics like the fact the car was well outside the boundary, on public highway/pavement. Even if they HAD driven in, the photos as evidence were worthless.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 17th Oct 16, 10:02 AM
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    And they should notice basics like the fact the car was well outside the boundary, on public highway/pavement. Even if they HAD driven in, the photos as evidence were worthless.
    Originally posted by Coupon-mad
    ANPR is worthless in managing car parking, it's only use is scamming the motorist.
    However at the car park in question you have to wonder why they have both ANPR and an attendant who can clearly be seen on Google Streetview at his little tea hut.
    To quote the words of the great Count Arthur Strong "You Couldn't make it up"
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