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    • yellowduck123
    • By yellowduck123 14th Oct 16, 4:36 PM
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    Aged 62,Son Looking To Move In Due To Poor Health,Will Benefits Be Affected?
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    • 14th Oct 16, 4:36 PM
    Aged 62,Son Looking To Move In Due To Poor Health,Will Benefits Be Affected? 14th Oct 16 at 4:36 PM
    Hi

    My friend who is aged 62 is in poor health,disabled,resides herself,son looking to move in to look after her,was wondering if this would affect her benefits also would it affect her sons benefits etc?

    She currently gets - ESA: 317.44/fortnight
    Private Works Pension: 360.85/month
    PIP: Both High Rates

    She currently pays a single persons council tax 34.00/month
    She also pays 18.00/month towards housing benefit.

    She stays in a 2 bedroom property which belongs to the Housing Association.

    Her son is currently getting ESA + Housing Benefeit.

    If her son was to move in and claim carers allowance for her would it affect her benefits?If he didnt claim carers allowance what would that mean?He would be looking after her min 25 hrs per week (varies)
    Any help/advice would be appreciated regarding what would happen with the benefits side/council tax/housing benefit etc
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    • nannytone
    • By nannytone 14th Oct 16, 4:45 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 4:45 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 4:45 PM
    her son can't claim carers allowance if he only averages 25 hours a week of care ( the minimum is 35 hours a week)

    her ESA and PIP would be unaffected, also housing benefit would be infected due to there being no non dependant deduction because she receives PIP care ( either rate)

    she will lose the 25% discount on her council tax, so she will need to pay a bit more
    • pmlindyloo
    • By pmlindyloo 14th Oct 16, 4:52 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 4:52 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 4:52 PM
    Need further information really.

    Does she have any savings? Is her ESA contribution or income based? Is she getting any disability premiums with her ESA?

    Is son's ESA contribution or income based? Does he have any savings?

    All relevant.

    Easiest way is to collect all award letters and put the details into the benefit calculator on www.turn2us.org.uk or both of them go to CAB for a benefit check.

    Or give us all the details and we'll have a go!
    • yellowduck123
    • By yellowduck123 14th Oct 16, 6:33 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 6:33 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 6:33 PM
    Hi apologies in advance,currently her 1st son looks after her 10hrs/week separately from 2nd son who is looking after her 25hrs/week,son who does 10hrs/week is no longer able to do so, therefore it would be min 35hrs/week for son moving in.

    Regarding mothers ESA she gets 218.60/fortnight (apologies again as id put down she got 317.44/fortnight)

    Would her son be better of claiming carers allowance?would this affect his mothers money or his money?

    She has no savings/property/assets etc neither does the son.

    sons ESA is under assessment 73.10/week.

    mothers ESA is support group/contribution based,yes she gets premiums with PIP which are SDP,enhanced premium
    Last edited by yellowduck123; 14-10-2016 at 6:49 PM. Reason: mistake
    • nannytone
    • By nannytone 14th Oct 16, 6:49 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 6:49 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 6:49 PM
    any premiums would be paid with her ESA and not with her PIP.

    you really need to clarify exactly how much she is getting because the amount she receives MAY be effected.

    someone on ESA in the support group and receiving both the SDP and enhanced disability premium,ms would be receiving just over £373 a fortnight in ESA.

    also her private pension would affect the amount of ESA she receives ( both contributions based or income related)

    we need to know ...
    is it contributions based or income related ESA ( or a combination of both)


    IF she is receiving the SDP, she would lose this when your brother moves in.
    even if her doesn't move in IF he claims carers allowance she will still lose it

    • yellowduck123
    • By yellowduck123 14th Oct 16, 7:06 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 7:06 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 7:06 PM
    Hi good point..

    Over the weekend i shall have a look at the actual letters,take note of the proper info required,shall write back ASAP,Thanks
    • TELLIT01
    • By TELLIT01 14th Oct 16, 7:08 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 7:08 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 7:08 PM
    If the son claims Carers Allowance the mother would lose SDP. That is only payable if nobody is in receipt of CA for her.
    • Alice Holt
    • By Alice Holt 14th Oct 16, 7:20 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 7:20 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 7:20 PM
    Best plan (as suggested by pmlindyloo) is that their take all income / savings / rent etc details into their local CAB and get a benefits check.
    • yellowduck123
    • By yellowduck123 14th Oct 16, 8:13 PM
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    • #9
    • 14th Oct 16, 8:13 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 8:13 PM
    It's ok to write in the first person, no one here knows who you are.

    If it's genuinely not about you then maybe you could advise your friend based on your situation, as your other posts suggests it is identical
    Originally posted by Bogalot
    For your information the question is for the same person however the circumstances are completely different hence writing in with todays circumstances..
    • yellowduck123
    • By yellowduck123 21st Oct 16, 7:40 PM
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    Hi

    Mother gets ESA (support group/income based)

    In her ESA she gets: living expenses,extra money because you are severely disabled,extra money because of the disability income guarantee,extra money because you are in a support group.

    Sons ESA is contribution based.
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