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    • GibsonSt19
    • By GibsonSt19 13th Oct 16, 2:21 PM
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    'Simple' HDD to SSD upgrade *going* wrong on Lenovo z580 Laptop - Help!
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    • 13th Oct 16, 2:21 PM
    'Simple' HDD to SSD upgrade *going* wrong on Lenovo z580 Laptop - Help! 13th Oct 16 at 2:21 PM
    Hi all, I'm in trouble with the boss (wife), so would really appreciate your help.

    I wanted to upgrade the HDD in her Lenovo z580 to an SSD and bought a Samsung 750 Evo 500gb SSD.

    Basically, I've cloned the original drive to the SSD (using EASUS Todo Backup) but don't think I've done it properly and the laptop won't boot into the OS (Win10).

    I got a "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable" error. After a Google, thought changing the SSD to be first in boot sequence would fix it. It didn't (could be because the cloned disk image is duff). Googled some more and changed some setting (in the Novo Setup Menu) either to or from ACHI/Legacy, or perhaps changed a UEFI setting, can't remember!

    Now the laptop gives me the same PXE-E61 error with both the original HDD and the SSD.

    I'm no longer able to get into the BIOS/settings, or in fact any of the three options (Enter Setup Menu / Enter Boot Manager / Enter One Click Recovery) presented when starting the laptop with the Novo button.

    I assume I have three options (bearing in mind that the new SSD drive is currently set as the 1st device in the boot sequence)?

    1. Reflash the BIOS in some way, but I'm unable to get into Windows 10 to do this and Lenovo don't appear to have a way of doing this from a flash drive.

    2. Possibly partition the new SSD drive, writing a Windows 10 Media Recovery image to the first partition, and installing it to the second partition on the same drive. Is this even possible?

    3. Send laptop to Levovo in Germany. I really don't want to do this for an out of warranty repair, as my wife needs her laptop for preparing her lessons (she's a teacher). Oh, and it will cost pennies.

    Any suggestions would be hugely, hugely appreciated.

    P.s. I can still access the original HDD on my other laptop via a caddy, and have made a backup of everything that's required on that drive.
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    • Fightsback
    • By Fightsback 13th Oct 16, 2:40 PM
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    • 13th Oct 16, 2:40 PM
    Read this thread and try the options in it first:

    https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and-Z-series/z580-can-t-access-bios-setup-or-boot-menu-after-changing-to/td-p/812737
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
    • S0litaire
    • By S0litaire 13th Oct 16, 2:46 PM
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    • 13th Oct 16, 2:46 PM
    OK this seems to be an issue with Lenovo Laptops in general. Their support forum has a lot of posts regarding this.

    It basically means it can not find any bootable media in the laptop and is looking for a network to boot from. ( PXE is a way to boot a PC using a disk image stored somewhere on the connected network.)

    Hold down f1 or f12 when you power it on to access the boot menu and select the internal drive to see if that works.

    Hold down f2 when you power on to access the BIOS. and turn off the PXE option in Boot selection.

    If you have access to the data then they usually advise a full reinstall of Windows (which usually works) . Also resetting the BIOS to defaults might work.

    https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and-Z-series/PXE-E61-Media-Test-Failure-check-cable-Ideapad-z580/td-p/1318353
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    • GibsonSt19
    • By GibsonSt19 13th Oct 16, 3:16 PM
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    • 13th Oct 16, 3:16 PM
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    • 13th Oct 16, 3:16 PM
    Thank you. I've read through pretty much every relevant thread I could find on the Lenovo forums including those you've linked to.

    My problem is that I'm no longer able to get into the UEFI/BIOS in order to make any rectifications. Sad times.
    • Fightsback
    • By Fightsback 13th Oct 16, 9:12 PM
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    • 13th Oct 16, 9:12 PM
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    • 13th Oct 16, 9:12 PM
    Do you have any bootable media such as a USB W10 install stick, Linux install stick or Windows install CD ?

    If so try that in the machine and see if it boots from it.
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
    • GibsonSt19
    • By GibsonSt19 14th Oct 16, 2:55 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 2:55 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 2:55 PM
    I did have a bootable Windows 10 USB, but whatever I'd done to the UEFI / BIOS meant it wasn't recognised.

    I've now got it sorted, thanks for all your help!

    Ended up moving SSD to a caddy, creating partitions, one with bootable with Windows 10 recovery media (6gb), the other for the OS to be installed to. This was recognised at boot (probably the only thing that could have been recognised) and I was able to install Windows 10, then reflash BIOS and reset to defaults. It then took some changes in primary and active partitions, but now all done and dusted.

    It really shouldn't have been that hard!

    Thanks again all.
    • Fightsback
    • By Fightsback 14th Oct 16, 3:54 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 3:54 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 3:54 PM
    I did have a bootable Windows 10 USB, but whatever I'd done to the UEFI / BIOS meant it wasn't recognised..
    Originally posted by GibsonSt19
    Glad you sorted it and posted your solution

    No it shouldn't, correct me if I'm wrong I believe there is no recovery flash for those either. Did you flash with the older modded BIOS from bios mods or the last official one ?

    Evidence suggests a buggy BIOS.
    Last edited by Fightsback; 14-10-2016 at 4:13 PM.
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    • paddyrg
    • By paddyrg 14th Oct 16, 4:54 PM
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    • 14th Oct 16, 4:54 PM
    Just a side note, easily overlooked, may not be the case here, but mentioning it just in case...

    Cloning the drive, if you hit issues, frequently (always?) the SSD needs to be installed, not in a caddy, during cloning if you want it to be mountable and bootable. That's why most cloning software is meant to run from a bootable USB
    • Oblivion
    • By Oblivion 15th Oct 16, 12:22 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 12:22 PM
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    • 15th Oct 16, 12:22 PM
    I wanted to upgrade the HDD in her Lenovo z580 to an SSD and bought a Samsung 750 Evo 500gb SSD.

    Basically, I've cloned the original drive to the SSD (using EASUS Todo Backup) but don't think I've done it properly and the laptop won't boot into the OS (Win10).

    .
    Originally posted by GibsonSt19

    Glad to read you've now got it sorted but I am still curious ... why didn't you use the superb cloning software that Samsung supply with their SSD's?
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    • getmore4less
    • By getmore4less 15th Oct 16, 9:34 PM
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    Samsung tool failed on my old dell with a drive that was playing up with dodgy blocks.

    Minitool worked first time.
    • GibsonSt19
    • By GibsonSt19 21st Oct 16, 9:55 PM
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    Glad you sorted it and posted your solution

    No it shouldn't, correct me if I'm wrong I believe there is no recovery flash for those either. Did you flash with the older modded BIOS from bios mods or the last official one ?

    Evidence suggests a buggy BIOS.
    Originally posted by Fightsback
    I flashed the latest official one from the Lenovo website
    • GibsonSt19
    • By GibsonSt19 21st Oct 16, 9:58 PM
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    Glad to read you've now got it sorted but I am still curious ... why didn't you use the superb cloning software that Samsung supply with their SSD's?
    Originally posted by Oblivion
    I initially didn't know it existed as the drive I received from Amazon was in a small white cardboard box (admitted my Samsung branded) and contained a general information sheet but no CD or even mention of the Magician software.

    When I realised it existed, I downloaded it but it wouldn't recognise the source HDD or the target SSD when in the caddy connected by USB.
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