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    • cogito
    • By cogito 13th Oct 16, 1:01 PM
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    Bob Dylan
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    • 13th Oct 16, 1:01 PM
    Bob Dylan 13th Oct 16 at 1:01 PM
    Awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature.

    Fantastic!
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    • Jojo the Tightfisted
    • By Jojo the Tightfisted 13th Oct 16, 1:22 PM
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    To me, this is a 'wait, WHAT?' award. I just don't get the fuss about him or the music, as it's not particularly remarkable in composition, even when he actually wrote something himself from scratch. But he's still alive, unlike other artists whose lyrics and compositions resonate more with me, so I guess that, combined with the adulation he gets from certain demographics, helps.
    I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.

    Yup you are officially Rock n Roll
    Originally posted by colinw
    • Conrad
    • By Conrad 13th Oct 16, 1:28 PM
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    You see' we're an odd lot us Humans. One moment we're bemoaning the already very rich and high status elites becoming ever richer and more privileged, and the next we're celebrating and adding to the awards and status of already super privileged people.


    Then we wonder why the elites seem to be the holders of the vast share of the worlds capital. Radio 4 did a broadcast (Thinking allowed) yesterday about how the elites sit their gathering rent, profits and royalities in ever greater sums (the new 'rentier society)', whilst others suffer more and more indignity and low incomes.


    Personally I want ordinary and up n coming people being celebrated and awarded, not rich old men be they Civil Servants or rock stars


    Liberals are the new authoritarians, condescension and propaganda their calling cards.
    Safe haven UK will prosper as never before


    • Head The Ball
    • By Head The Ball 13th Oct 16, 1:32 PM
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    ....Personally I want ordinary and up n coming people being celebrated and awarded, not rich old men be they Civil Servants or rock stars
    Originally posted by Conrad
    Which 'ordinary and up n coming people' deserve this years Nobel Prize for Literature ahead of Bob Dylan?
    When I was growing up plastic surgery was a bit of a taboo subject. These days if you mention botox no one raises an eyebrow.
    • robin banks
    • By robin banks 13th Oct 16, 1:33 PM
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    You see' we're an odd lot us Humans. One moment we're bemoaning the already very rich and high status elites becoming ever richer and more privileged, and the next we're celebrating and adding to the awards and status of already super privileged people.


    Then we wonder why the elites seem to be the holders of the vast share of the worlds capital. Radio 4 did a broadcast (Thinking allowed) yesterday about how the elites sit their gathering rent, profits and royalities in ever greater sums (the new 'rentier society)', whilst others suffer more and more indignity and low incomes.


    Personally I want ordinary and up n coming people being celebrated and awarded, not rich old men be they Civil Servants or rock stars
    Originally posted by Conrad


    Who's words have you pilfered now Conrad?


    No literature prizes for you
    "An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".

    wtf is all that about?
    • tommix
    • By tommix 13th Oct 16, 1:37 PM
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    Thanks to him I have been 'blowing in the wind' looking for answers my entire life..I'm 53 and still none the wiser.

    Saying that I wouldn't begrudge him a Prize..He has written some fine words in his time.
    • Ames
    • By Ames 13th Oct 16, 1:38 PM
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    I've never really been a fan, his voice gets on my nerves. Every year I think it should have been Margaret Atwood, hopefully next year.
    Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.


    Recent reads: Everyday Sexism by Laura Bates. Headscarves and Hymens by Mona Eltahawy. Justice - What is the Right Thing To Do by Michael Sandel. Is Multiculturalism Bad For Women by Susan Moller Okin.
    • robin banks
    • By robin banks 13th Oct 16, 1:41 PM
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    Thanks to him I have been 'blowing in the wind' looking for answers my entire life..I'm 53 and still none the wiser.

    Saying that I wouldn't begrudge him a Prize..He has written some fine words in his time.
    Originally posted by tommix
    I'm not a huge fan, got a few LPs like but I wouldn't begrudge him it either. His words have reached for more people than previous winners.
    "An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".

    wtf is all that about?
    • Intoodeep
    • By Intoodeep 13th Oct 16, 1:56 PM
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    Read the lyrics 50+ years of genius
    • Tipsntreats
    • By Tipsntreats 13th Oct 16, 2:02 PM
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    Thanks to him I have been 'blowing in the wind' looking for answers my entire life..I'm 53 and still none the wiser.
    You told me that you were 36!

    I like Dylan, although he cannot sing anymore- my neighbour had a Christmas album, it was awful.
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    • Jojo the Tightfisted
    • By Jojo the Tightfisted 13th Oct 16, 2:16 PM
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    Read the lyrics 50+ years of genius
    Originally posted by Intoodeep
    When the jelly-faced women all sneeze
    Hear the one with the mustache say, "Jeeze
    I can't find my knees"

    or

    They'll stone ya when you're walkin' on the floor
    They'll stone ya when you're walkin' to the door
    But I would not feel so all alone
    Everybody must get stoned.


    Seems more like a teenager's exercise in finding words that rhyme for their English homework than anything profound and deeply meaningful to me.
    I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.

    Yup you are officially Rock n Roll
    Originally posted by colinw
    • makingplans4nigel
    • By makingplans4nigel 13th Oct 16, 2:47 PM
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    I love Bob Dylan, I've got all his albums, The Best of Bob Dylan, The very best of Bob Dylan, the Greatest Hits of Bob Dylan, and The Acker my friend is blowin' in the wind, Bob Dylan's greatest hits re-interpreted by Acker Bilk.

    My favourite Dylan song is the one about clowns ("Clowns to the left of me, something something something"). Seems even now with the killer clown thing in the news his songs are still relevant.
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    • koexelek
    • By koexelek 13th Oct 16, 2:52 PM
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    Read the lyrics 50+ years of genius
    Originally posted by Intoodeep
    Exactly.
    He's never been the best of singers ( he's absolutely awful now) or guitarists, but his songwriting is second to none.
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    • colinw
    • By colinw 13th Oct 16, 3:15 PM
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    His singing has got worse but he has wrote some great lyrics..

    "Masters Of War"

    Come you masters of war
    You that build all the guns
    You that build the death planes
    You that build all the bombs
    You that hide behind walls
    You that hide behind desks
    I just want you to know
    I can see through your masks.

    You that never done nothin'
    But build to destroy
    You play with my world
    Like it's your little toy
    You put a gun in my hand
    And you hide from my eyes
    And you turn and run farther
    When the fast bullets fly.

    Like Judas of old
    You lie and deceive
    A world war can be won
    You want me to believe
    But I see through your eyes
    And I see through your brain
    Like I see through the water
    That runs down my drain.

    You fasten all the triggers
    For the others to fire
    Then you set back and watch
    When the death count gets higher
    You hide in your mansion'
    As young people's blood
    Flows out of their bodies
    And is buried in the mud.

    You've thrown the worst fear
    That can ever be hurled
    Fear to bring children
    Into the world
    For threatening my baby
    Unborn and unnamed
    You ain't worth the blood
    That runs in your veins.

    How much do I know
    To talk out of turn
    You might say that I'm young
    You might say I'm unlearned
    But there's one thing I know
    Though I'm younger than you
    That even Jesus would never
    Forgive what you do.

    Let me ask you one question
    Is your money that good
    Will it buy you forgiveness
    Do you think that it could
    I think you will find
    When your death takes its toll
    All the money you made
    Will never buy back your soul.

    And I hope that you die
    And your death'll come soon
    I will follow your casket
    In the pale afternoon
    And I'll watch while you're lowered
    Down to your deathbed
    And I'll stand over your grave
    'Til I'm sure that you're dead.
    • makingplans4nigel
    • By makingplans4nigel 13th Oct 16, 3:36 PM
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    To me, this is a 'wait, WHAT?' award. I just don't get the fuss about him or the music, as it's not particularly remarkable in composition, even when he actually wrote something himself from scratch.
    Originally posted by Jojo the Tightfisted

    You've still got him as your avatar though?

    So what books has he written and they any good?
    Come on sucker lick my battery
    • Marisco
    • By Marisco 13th Oct 16, 3:43 PM
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    I love Bob Dylan, I've got all his albums, The Best of Bob Dylan, The very best of Bob Dylan, the Greatest Hits of Bob Dylan, and The Acker my friend is blowin' in the wind, Bob Dylan's greatest hits re-interpreted by Acker Bilk.

    My favourite Dylan song is the one about clowns ("Clowns to the left of me, something something something"). Seems even now with the killer clown thing in the news his songs are still relevant.
    Originally posted by makingplans4nigel
    "Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right
    Here I am, stuck in the middle with you"

    Originally by Stealers Wheel

    I love Dylan as well
    • makingplans4nigel
    • By makingplans4nigel 13th Oct 16, 3:51 PM
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    "Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right
    Here I am, stuck in the middle with you"

    Originally by Stealers Wheel

    I love Dylan as well
    Originally posted by Marisco
    Alright, no need to be Tom Petty about it, still sounds like Dylan to me, and Gerry Rafferty was in the Travelling Willburys...the fact that none of the other members of TB knew about it is a different matter entirely.
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    • makingplans4nigel
    • By makingplans4nigel 13th Oct 16, 3:53 PM
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    You told me that you were 36
    Originally posted by Tipsntreats
    He told me that too...also turns out the d!ck pics he keeps PM'ing me are someone else as well.
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    • koexelek
    • By koexelek 13th Oct 16, 3:56 PM
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    His singing has got worse but he has wrote some great lyrics..

    "Masters Of War"
    Originally posted by colinw
    With God on Our Side

    Oh my name it ain't nothin'
    My age it means less
    The country I come from
    Is called the Midwest
    I was taught and brought up there
    The laws to abide
    And that land that I live in
    Has God on its side
    Oh, the history books tell it
    They tell it so well
    The cavalries charged
    The Indians fell
    The cavalries charged
    The Indians died
    Oh, the country was young
    With God on its side
    The Spanish-American
    War had its day
    And the Civil War, too
    Was soon laid away
    And the names of the heroes
    I was made to memorize
    With guns in their hands
    And God on their side
    The First World War, boys
    It came and it went
    The reason for fighting
    I never did get
    But I learned to accept it
    Accept it with pride
    For you don't count the dead
    When God's on your side
    The Second World War
    Came to an end
    We forgave the Germans
    And then we were friends
    Though they murdered six million
    In the ovens they fried
    The Germans now, too
    Have God on their side
    I've learned to hate the Russians
    All through my whole life
    If another war comes
    It's them we must fight
    To hate them and fear them
    To run and to hide
    And accept it all bravely
    With God on my side
    But now we got weapons
    Of chemical dust
    If fire them, we're forced to
    Then fire, them we must
    One push of the button
    And a shot the world wide
    And you never ask questions
    When God's on your side
    Through many a dark hour
    I've been thinkin' about this
    That Jesus Christ was
    Betrayed by a kiss
    But I can't think for you
    You'll have to decide
    Whether Judas Iscariot
    Had God on his side.
    So now as I'm leavin'
    I'm weary as Hell
    The confusion I'm feelin'
    Ain't no tongue can tell
    The words fill my head
    And fall to the floor
    That if God's on our side
    He'll stop the next war
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    • colinw
    • By colinw 13th Oct 16, 4:25 PM
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    Alright, no need to be Tom Petty about it, still sounds like Dylan to me, and Gerry Rafferty was in the Travelling Willburys...the fact that none of the other members of TB knew about it is a different matter entirely.
    Originally posted by makingplans4nigel
    Was he in Tate and Lyle as well
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