Hooray for savings rates cuts
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The topic starter is the guy who claimed that investing is more ethical than charity, and that "its in the 99%'s interests to make tax cuts for the 1% to allow growth of this money that props up the employers of the 99%". In short, ignore.0
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It might make sense if you think in twelve dimensions.
Or he just skipped his anti-psychotic medications.
I have always thought care in the community could be extended to care on the internet. Keeps them from wandering the streets, bothering people.0 -
Gadfium -Low interest rates and high inflation will just add to the complete and utter clusterf*ck that the UK has created for itself. [/QUOTE
The solution to that is simple, raise interest rates. Its when you have low inflation despite low rates that you're skirting deflation and unable to do much about it, which had previously been the case. I believe that the extra inflation will allow rates to rise again and our economy to return to some sort of post 2008 normality. Inflation, and wage inflation for that matter used to be a normal part of our experience
Others - please may you explain why you disagree?0 -
BoE already announced that for the time being they are NOT going to raise interest rates to counter inflation as the state of the economy was too precarious. Raising rates makes it difficult for business to invest because they can't borrow to support their activities, and if they raised rates significantly it would crash the housing market not to mention people having less cash to spend in shops because of either paying more interest cost on mortgages, loans and cards or because of being inspired to put money on deposit. BoE saying they were not going to put interest rates up any time soon despite imported inflation was one of the reasons the pound fell further over recent days.
In your earlier post you said we need inflation because that will increase wages. Perhaps that is because you have seen high wage increases when inflation is high and assume the companies want to pay more wages because of high inflation. That is just you seeing those things (high inflation and high wage increases) at the same time and not thinking through how it works.
It is usually the other way around, that high wages cause high inflation - if companies have to pay an extra pound an hour they put all the prices up so people have more pounds in their pocket but have to pay more pounds for their weekly shop.
What we are looking at here is inflation being caused by prices of imported materials, goods, fuel etc which are priced globally in currencies other than sterling while sterling does not buy as much of those other currencies. So there is no reason for UK workers to magically be paid more money just because it costs companies more to bring bananas in from Brazil or onions from France or ipads from China or USA. How does the importer or retailer afford to pay british workers more, on top of those cost increases? Unless all the UK workers in all the business sectors just all down tools and walk out, there is little bargaining to be done.I believe that the extra inflation will allow rates to rise again and our economy to return to some sort of post 2008 normality. Inflation, and wage inflation for that matter used to be a normal part of our experienceOthers - please may you explain why you disagree?
Particularly as when you are given advice or explanations on the forum you typically ignore them, argue against them, or move on, and then go start some other random topic elsewhere, for which the purpose seems to get your name up in lights on the internet in as many separate posts as possible regardless of quality of content. Sorry if that sounds harsh.0 -
Let alone many reports that people have overborrowed in the artificial low interest rate environment, and that is why the BOE is scared ****less of raising rates, it will cut off any semblance of recovery and could well lead to a return to the negative equity and repossesions of the Major era.0
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Bowl - if costs of living go up, the government usually increases its benefits payout to maintain life
If it does that, then it would have to raise minimum/living wage to keep people out of benefits
So at the bottom of the employment market it doesn't follow free market prices, people are artificially paid more, and its more rooted in cost of living, there isn't the same wriggle room for low paid employees taking the hit
I dare say the boe would be cautious about rate rises
I expect owning shares would be a good hedge to that inflation
And the weaker pound is the reason why now suddenly companies will be able to pay us more, because British labour will be relatively cheaper
I just enjoy discussion. Saying the equivalent of 'go read a book' isnt clarifying what I'm looking for
I do listen, but the freedom to reserve from complete agreement at will, until convinced, is what makes me an independent person0 -
If costs of living go up, the government usually increases its benefits payout to maintain life
The government does usually increase benefits for welfare and pensions after there has been some inflation. But not in real time. If things cost 3℅ more next Christmas than this Christmas, then there will be calls to increase benefits by 3%. But that is a year after the prices started going up (eg Jan when they were 0.3% more expensive than December and Feb when they were 0.5% more expensive etc etc).And the weaker pound is the reason why now suddenly companies will be able to pay us more, because British labour will be relatively cheaper
Say I run a business in the UK making sweets. Due to forex rates and inflation, my sugar costs went up, chocolate costs went up, foil wrappers went up, aluminium baking trays went up, the cost of a delivery van went up, and the cost of petrol for the delivery van went up. So if you want me to make you some sweets and get them to your house it will cost more per sweet, yet I can't necessarily increase the cost of the sweets because you don't magically have more money with which to pay me. So as a business I will lose money.
The guy working the caramel station melting sugar at one end of my factory is not going to want to take any less pay because all his costs of living his life just went up too. But your suggestion is that the British company can pay the caramel station worker more somehow, because "British labour will be relatively cheaper"?
Relatively cheaper than moving production to China, perhaps, but maybe not absolutely cheaper than doing that, and there is no more money in the bank to pay the worker, there is less, unless I can somehow go into the export business and break Nestle and Mars's market dominance.0 -
Despite some of the bits posted above, it is a good point that many people who want a decent income from their money would be better off investing it than leaving money in cash paying a pittance.
The yield on the FTSE is about 3.5%, that's about 3.5x the income you'd get from a cash ISA. Yes the capital isn't guaranteed but for most people wanting high income and not touching their money that's pretty irrelevant anyway.Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.0 -
Its a no brainer that people already invested in markets want others to join them and hence hike up their pots too.0
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The balancing act for people going into the (record level) market now (including me next April) is whether it is overvalued by all the money going in chasing yield, and whether the next shock on the £, or brexit rumours will trigger a big fall which might turn into a crash with newbies panicking and rushing to sell up.0
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