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    • citycity
    • By citycity 12th Oct 16, 3:06 PM
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    Flashpark Parking Ticket
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    • 12th Oct 16, 3:06 PM
    Flashpark Parking Ticket 12th Oct 16 at 3:06 PM
    Hi,

    I've received a flashpark parking ticket two weeks ago!
    The charge was in relation to visiting my friend who is a tenant in a flat.

    My friend said I was able to park in this open space just before their house. It does clearly have signs up with 24hr security, parking permits only etc... My friend said not to worry about them as there isn't any cameras and it's a space for Visitors!

    Obviously I assumed nothing of it until I receive this letter from Flashpark! My friend said one of there neighbours must of reported it, but she said that noone has parking permits, and her friends park there all the time.

    Where do I go from here? Can I explain the situation to them? Or will that make me liable as I didn't technically have the landlords permission! All the tenants do not have any permits, and it seeing as I had permission from someone who lives there surely it should be dismissed.

    Alternatively if I ignore the letters would it really be worth their time taking me to court where I can present this argument?

    If I write an appeals letter what could I put in there, as there was clearly signs up.

    Cheers for any help
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    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 12th Oct 16, 3:10 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 3:10 PM
    Flash park don't care about your situation, so any appeals based on fact will near-inevitably fail. They just want your money.

    Depending on just what it says in the tenancy agreement, your friend may be able to bring considerable leverage on the management company who employ the PPC to get it cancelled but you would still be well advised to start reading the Newbies Sticky, carefully which will lay-out your options for fighting them.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 12th Oct 16, 6:07 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 6:07 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 6:07 PM
    If I write an appeals letter what could I put in there, as there was clearly signs up.

    Cheers for any help
    Originally posted by citycity
    It seems you've missed 'NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST' which has the template appeal submission for the registered keeper (NOT DRIVER!) to use, depending upon BPA or IPC membership.

    That thread is a sticky one stuck near the top of this board, in capital letters (if I could paint it red, I would!). No link given to a sticky thread.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 12th Oct 16, 6:15 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 6:15 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 6:15 PM
    Hi,

    I've received a flashpark parking ticket two weeks ago!
    The charge was in relation to visiting my friend who is a tenant in a flat.

    My friend said I was able to park in this open space just before their house. It does clearly have signs up with 24hr security, parking permits only etc... My friend said not to worry about them as there isn't any cameras and it's a space for Visitors!

    Obviously I assumed nothing of it until I receive this letter from Flashpark! My friend said one of there neighbours must of reported it, but she said that noone has parking permits, and her friends park there all the time.

    Where do I go from here? Can I explain the situation to them? Or will that make me liable as I didn't technically have the landlords permission! All the tenants do not have any permits, and it seeing as I had permission from someone who lives there surely it should be dismissed.

    Alternatively if I ignore the letters would it really be worth their time taking me to court where I can present this argument?

    If I write an appeals letter what could I put in there, as there was clearly signs up.

    Cheers for any help
    Originally posted by citycity
    As pogofish advises, the management is the key to this

    "Flashing in the Park" need to listen to them. Demand it is cancelled
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    • citycity
    • By citycity 20th Oct 16, 2:07 PM
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    • 20th Oct 16, 2:07 PM
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    • 20th Oct 16, 2:07 PM
    Would you advise me to remove the second paragraph on the newbie FAQ forum! It mentions about the fail of signage/large lettering, when I wouldn't have a leg to stand on as there are plenty! However if I'm more saying it wasn't me that was parked there I wouldn't know what signage there is there?!
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 20th Oct 16, 2:15 PM
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    • 20th Oct 16, 2:15 PM
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    • 20th Oct 16, 2:15 PM
    Would you advise me to remove the second paragraph on the newbie FAQ forum! It mentions about the fail of signage/large lettering, when I wouldn't have a leg to stand on as there are plenty! However if I'm more saying it wasn't me that was parked there I wouldn't know what signage there is there?!
    Originally posted by citycity
    Leave it in. You need to compare it with the BPA CoP to see where it fails when you get to the PoPLA stage. They have to prove that it complies which I doubt that it does.
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 20th Oct 16, 4:21 PM
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    • 20th Oct 16, 4:21 PM
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    • 20th Oct 16, 4:21 PM
    Would you advise me to remove the second paragraph on the newbie FAQ forum! It mentions about the fail of signage/large lettering, when I wouldn't have a leg to stand on as there are plenty! However if I'm more saying it wasn't me that was parked there I wouldn't know what signage there is there?!
    Originally posted by citycity
    Nope, it's there because 'plenty of signs' does not mean clear, legible signs with the £100 charge in very large lettering - it's not enough just to have lots of small print signs up.

    And a keeper would NOT know what was there but can still suggest the signs must have been inadequate. For the driver to have incurred a charge they cannot possibly have seen £100 clearly stated, can they - no-one would agree to that!

    Stop worrying, the template first appeal does a job to get a POPLA code, where you will be attacking the signs in a big way, even if you never see them!
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • citycity
    • By citycity 29th Nov 16, 8:11 AM
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    • 29th Nov 16, 8:11 AM
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    • 29th Nov 16, 8:11 AM
    I've had a response from Flash Park in regards to my appeals letter!
    It has been rejected on the grounds that:
    1. "You did not display a valid permit in accordance with the regulations stated on the warning notices displayed in clear and prominent locations around the parking area"
    2. "Neither the landowner nor Flashpark has issued you a permit to park in this area"

    They have reduced the parking fee to £25 as a gesture of goodwill.

    They have provide me a POPLA verification code...

    What do you advise me to do, pay £25 or send another letter?
    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 29th Nov 16, 8:41 AM
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    • 29th Nov 16, 8:41 AM
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    • 29th Nov 16, 8:41 AM
    I've had a response from Flash Park in regards to my appeals letter!
    It has been rejected on the grounds that:
    1. "You did not display a valid permit in accordance with the regulations stated on the warning notices displayed in clear and prominent locations around the parking area"
    2. "Neither the landowner nor Flashpark has issued you a permit to park in this area"

    They have reduced the parking fee to £25 as a gesture of goodwill.

    They have provide me a POPLA verification code...

    What do you advise me to do, pay £25 or send another letter?
    Originally posted by citycity
    Did they actually say "regulations"(a rule or directive made and maintained by an authority) that is naughty.

    Flashpark is run by a Muppet that invented the "talking parking ticket".

    I wouldn't pay this idiot a penny personally!

    https://www.flashpark.co.uk/private-parking-tickets/talking.php
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    • Guys Dad
    • By Guys Dad 29th Nov 16, 11:19 AM
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    Date of alleged contracention and date on Notice to Keeper please.
    • citycity
    • By citycity 29th Nov 16, 5:46 PM
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    They did mention "regulations" it does seem a bit ridiculous...
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    • beamerguy
    • By beamerguy 29th Nov 16, 6:12 PM
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    Did they actually say "regulations"(a rule or directive made and maintained by an authority) that is naughty.

    Flashpark is run by a Muppet that invented the "talking parking ticket".

    I wouldn't pay this idiot a penny personally!

    https://www.flashpark.co.uk/private-parking-tickets/talking.php
    Originally posted by fisherjim
    And the muppet show continues with a video
    https://www.flashpark.co.uk/Press.aspx

    About time they appeared on Watchdog's "Wall of Shame"
    Last edited by beamerguy; 29-11-2016 at 6:32 PM.
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 30th Nov 16, 10:08 PM
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    They have provide me a POPLA verification code...

    What do you advise me to do, pay £25 or send another letter?
    Originally posted by citycity
    Neither.

    POPLA time. Read the NEWBIES thread post #3.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

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