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    • geordiepaul2001
    • By geordiepaul2001 12th Oct 16, 10:56 AM
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    Anybody knowledgeable on BMW 3 series?
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    • 12th Oct 16, 10:56 AM
    Anybody knowledgeable on BMW 3 series? 12th Oct 16 at 10:56 AM
    Hi all,

    I am in the market for a second hand BMW 3 series and as it will be my first BMW I am a little lost among the trim levels etc.

    I am hoping someone can give me pointers on the following;

    I'm looking for parking sensors, full leather, cruise control and heated seats - are there any trim levels that give me all of these or does it depend largely on the added extras that people chose?

    When it comes to leather some of the adverts seem to be making a song and dance about Dakota leather - is there much difference in quality?

    What are the major service levels for these cars, such as for timing belts etc?

    Thanks in advance,

    Paul
    June 2016 - Pair of Brooks Glycerin 14's
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    • straighttalker
    • By straighttalker 12th Oct 16, 11:04 AM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 11:04 AM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 11:04 AM
    Age, model, engine size and whether petrol or diesel would help.
    • Head The Ball
    • By Head The Ball 12th Oct 16, 11:38 AM
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    • #3
    • 12th Oct 16, 11:38 AM
    Anybody knowledgeable on BMW 3 series?
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    • 12th Oct 16, 11:38 AM
    BMW dealerships are usually knowledgeable and sell a wide range of used BMWs.

    You will pay more than for a private sale but you do get security and a warranty or guarantee.

    They probably won't sell older models if that is what you are looking for but are still worth a try.

    BMW 3 Series is a good choice of car. I had one for many years and was very pleased with it. I now have a 1 Series bought nearly new from BMW.

    Good luck.
    Last edited by Head The Ball; 12-10-2016 at 11:42 AM.
    When I was growing up plastic surgery was a bit of a taboo subject. These days if you mention botox no one raises an eyebrow.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 12th Oct 16, 11:48 AM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 11:48 AM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 11:48 AM
    Hi all,

    I am in the market for a second hand BMW 3 series and as it will be my first BMW I am a little lost among the trim levels etc.

    I am hoping someone can give me pointers on the following;

    I'm looking for parking sensors, full leather, cruise control and heated seats - are there any trim levels that give me all of these or does it depend largely on the added extras that people chose?

    When it comes to leather some of the adverts seem to be making a song and dance about Dakota leather - is there much difference in quality?

    What are the major service levels for these cars, such as for timing belts etc?

    Thanks in advance,

    Paul
    Originally posted by geordiepaul2001
    Go to your local dealer and get the latest brochures & price lists. That'll give you an idea of what packages contain what options etc, at least for the latest models but will point you in the right direction nontheless. Leather seats are an option in their own right, 'Dakota" is just the name for their standard leather, nothing special.

    How old are the cars you're looking at?
    • geordiepaul2001
    • By geordiepaul2001 12th Oct 16, 11:59 AM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 11:59 AM
    Apologies for the lack of detail.
    I'm looking at 2011 onwards (preferably 2012 as I believe this is when one of the facelifts occurred).
    I've been looking preferably at the 320D or efficient dynamics, and I'm swaying towards an M Sport is possible.

    My commute is around 50 miles per day and I plan to keep the car for between 5 and 7 years - hence the thinking behind getting a diesel variant.
    June 2016 - Pair of Brooks Glycerin 14's
    July 2016 - Annual family pass to English Heritage
    August 2016 - overnight spa break with dinner and breakfast for two
    September - BBQ toolbox
    • agrinnall
    • By agrinnall 12th Oct 16, 2:32 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 2:32 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 2:32 PM
    I hope you are buying with an awareness of the potential issue with the timing chain on N47 engines?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N47#Timing_chain_problems
    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 12th Oct 16, 5:39 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 5:39 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 5:39 PM
    The LCI (facelift) e90 320d with the N47 engine built after April 2011 has a MUCH less chance of having any timing chain problems.

    Forget the ED extra-low mpg model - it's overpriced on the 2nd hand market - and it's pithless compared to the normal engined models.

    The M-Sport will come with leather sports seats and reversing sensors as standard and almost all of them will have heated seats and cruise control.

    It also has 1" lower suspension and better aerodynamics.

    My advice would be to join a decent BMW owners forum and ask questions there.

    This is a good one for starters (very friendly to newbies):

    http://www.bmwlander.co.uk/index.php?forums/

    Others are available- as they say.

    Good luck in finding a nice example of an M-Sport
    • RichardD1970
    • By RichardD1970 12th Oct 16, 6:26 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 6:26 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 6:26 PM
    I've been looking preferably at the 320D or efficient dynamics, and I'm swaying towards an M Sport is possible.
    Originally posted by geordiepaul2001
    Hate the way that the "M" badge has become a trim level. Degrading to the proper "M" cars IMHO.

    Sorry, off topic, rant over (and no, I'm not DM )
    • TadleyBaggie
    • By TadleyBaggie 12th Oct 16, 6:51 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 6:51 PM
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    • 12th Oct 16, 6:51 PM
    I drove (as company cars) both the E90 (318d 2011) and F30 (320d 2014) models. The older model was hands down a better car to drive, felt like it was on rails. They did something to the steering on the later models and it felt like you were using a remote. Saying that the later model had a much nicer cabin.
    • Iceweasel
    • By Iceweasel 12th Oct 16, 7:26 PM
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    I drove (as company cars) both the E90 (318d 2011) and F30 (320d 2014) models. The older model was hands down a better car to drive, felt like it was on rails. They did something to the steering on the later models and it felt like you were using a remote. Saying that the later model had a much nicer cabin.
    Originally posted by TadleyBaggie
    'They' didn't do anything - it's different options.

    I would suggest that likely your E90 had standard hydraulic power steering and the F30 was specced with the optional 'Servotronic' electric power steering.

    It's all a matter of feel and personal preference and also what tyres the car has - many folks hated the Bridgestone runflats with a passion (me included) and many folks didn't like the heavy feel of the E90 steering without servotronic.

    Then of course there is 'Active' steering - but that's a story for another day.
    • TadleyBaggie
    • By TadleyBaggie 12th Oct 16, 8:23 PM
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    The company was quite stingy on company cars (at my level at least), the only option we got was front/rear parking sensors. We didn't even get run flats. However I wasn't the first driver of the older car, so it may have been uprated.
    • neilmcl
    • By neilmcl 13th Oct 16, 10:37 AM
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    We didn't even get run flats.
    Originally posted by TadleyBaggie
    Not necessarily a bad thing.
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