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    • PoshButNice
    • By PoshButNice 11th Oct 16, 1:51 AM
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    The Evil of Windows 10.
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    • 11th Oct 16, 1:51 AM
    The Evil of Windows 10. 11th Oct 16 at 1:51 AM
    Seems to me windows 10 is tying you into only using (and hence buying) Microsoft applications.

    For example try changing your default photo viewer to anything other the the Windows app or the few other apps they list. If the app is not on that list, as many free photo apps are, you are shafted.
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    • PoshButNice
    • By PoshButNice 11th Oct 16, 1:52 AM
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    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 11th Oct 16, 1:59 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 1:59 AM
    For example try changing your default photo viewer to anything other the the Windows app or the few other apps they list. If the app is not on that list, as many free photo apps are, you are shafted.
    Originally posted by PoshButNice
    Really - I've found no problems with default viewing with over half a dozen other apps/packages that I might use to edit/view images, from major stuff like Photoshop (several versions, some well-old) to little open-source/specialised progs and none of them are standard Microsoft/W10 products.
    Last edited by MSE ForumTeam5; 12-10-2016 at 11:59 AM. Reason: Thread moved
    • PoshButNice
    • By PoshButNice 11th Oct 16, 2:27 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 2:27 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 2:27 AM
    Yea, it is just I don't like paying for stuff I when there are plenty of free apps available, seem you have more money than .... err... me.
    Last edited by MSE ForumTeam5; 12-10-2016 at 11:59 AM. Reason: Quoting edited post
    • ARandomMiser
    • By ARandomMiser 11th Oct 16, 5:29 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 5:29 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 5:29 AM
    I only use free apps on my home computers all of which run Windows 10 and so far the ones I am using are fine. Maybe some people are not as computer savvy as they think.
    • ossie
    • By ossie 11th Oct 16, 6:33 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 6:33 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 6:33 AM
    No problem here! RIGHT click picture you want to view, click open with, choose another app, scroll down choose more apps, scroll down again choose look for another app, choose your default app and put tick in box to make it stick!
    Last edited by ossie; 11-10-2016 at 6:37 AM.
    • tommix
    • By tommix 11th Oct 16, 8:57 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 8:57 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 8:57 AM
    I wouldn't download Win10 for all the tea in china. From the stuff I've read it sounds like a right pain in the posterior..Probably peeps who are computer savvy are Ok with it. I'm not Computer savvy. In fact I'm Computer unsavvy if anything.

    I heard it takes 20 hours to download and goes wrong all the time...Sod that, I'm happy with Win7, I know where I am with it.
    Last edited by tommix; 11-10-2016 at 9:02 AM.
    • kabayiri
    • By kabayiri 11th Oct 16, 9:18 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 9:18 AM
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    The issue is not so much Windows 10.

    Microsoft has lost ground in the retail/consumer space, in recent years. Not just to Apple, but tasks traditionally done by PCs have moved on to Smart Phones and tablet PCs.

    They have to respond.

    Every big player has realised just how important the "Store" is as a revenue generator. Apple also do this. Google have their own.

    It seems inevitable with Windows 10, 11, 12..etc they will push this one-stop-shop as a convenient and ultimately preferable option for all those additional application or media add-ons people buy.
    • peter_the_piper
    • By peter_the_piper 11th Oct 16, 9:21 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 9:21 AM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 9:21 AM
    3 computers that could be updated to win 10, 1 was a pain and took 3 goes, 1 just went through no problems, 1 went through with a few things not working properly which were corrected by the recent update. All 3 are working properly now and would not go back to win7 by choice.

    At least with windows you get to choose the make of computer you want and are not stuck with a Mac and the operating system they give you at their highly inflated prices. With a normal computer you can at least change operating system etc.
    Last edited by peter_the_piper; 11-10-2016 at 9:26 AM.
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    • schrodie
    • By schrodie 11th Oct 16, 9:41 AM
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    In addition to the Mac OS you can also run Windows on a Mac computer.
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    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 11th Oct 16, 9:44 AM
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    Yea, it is just I don't like paying for stuff I when there are plenty of free apps available, seem you have more money than .... err... me.
    Originally posted by PoshButNice
    Anything but! - Most of my image software is free/open source and I only keep Photoshop in older (and far cheaper) versions for a degree of consistency with what I do at work.

    In fact one of the things I like most about W10 is that it has given new life to several XP-era packages that would not run at all under W7.
    • Blue smurf
    • By Blue smurf 11th Oct 16, 10:08 AM
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    Windows 10 = spyware

    An excerpt from Microsoft's 12,000 word terms of use

    We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to.
    Users can opt out of this feature but it defaults to on, how many Win 10 users know that Microsoft is accessing their personal information?
    • amistupid
    • By amistupid 11th Oct 16, 10:44 AM
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    The Evil of Windows 10.
    Originally posted by PoshButNice
    There's more evil behind the door of no. 10.
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    • quidsinquentin
    • By quidsinquentin 11th Oct 16, 11:55 AM
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    I wouldn't download Win10 for all the tea in china. From the stuff I've read it sounds like a right pain in the posterior..Probably peeps who are computer savvy are Ok with it. I'm not Computer savvy. In fact I'm Computer unsavvy if anything.

    I heard it takes 20 hours to download and goes wrong all the time...Sod that, I'm happy with Win7, I know where I am with it.
    Originally posted by tommix
    Got the perennial messages to download W10 onto my Windows tablet, and eventually did it.

    The tablet now makes an interesting coaster but nothing else. As soon as W10 was loaded onto it, it stopped working and hasn't worked since. By 'not working', I mean it wouldn't even turn on.
    The atmosphere is currently filled with hypocrisy so thick that it could be sliced, wrapped, and sold in supermarkets for a decent price and labeled, 'Wholegrain Left-Wing, Middle-Class, Politically-Correct Organic Hypocrisy'.
    • kabayiri
    • By kabayiri 11th Oct 16, 12:14 PM
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    Got the perennial messages to download W10 onto my Windows tablet, and eventually did it.

    The tablet now makes an interesting coaster but nothing else. As soon as W10 was loaded onto it, it stopped working and hasn't worked since. By 'not working', I mean it wouldn't even turn on.
    Originally posted by quidsinquentin
    Have you tried putting W10 on a tablet sized coaster?

    It might turn it into an usable tablet.
    • pogofish
    • By pogofish 11th Oct 16, 12:38 PM
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    Windows 10 = spyware

    An excerpt from Microsoft's 12,000 word terms of use



    Users can opt out of this feature but it defaults to on, how many Win 10 users know that Microsoft is accessing their personal information?
    Originally posted by Blue smurf

    That's been widely known since the very beginning and TBH, anyone with any sense switched the privacy-sapping options off from the start- and when updates switch them on again!
    • wymondham
    • By wymondham 11th Oct 16, 1:33 PM
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    How many people who are paranoid about Windows 10 also have Facebook? Now that's where their paranoid should be aimed!
    • evenasus
    • By evenasus 11th Oct 16, 1:37 PM
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    We put Windows 10 on the main PC and two laptops. Easy enough to download and update.
    I didn't like it at all, so reverted back to Windows 7 or rather tried to.
    I used the Windows revert back option but it failed miserably and I had to do a complete reinstall from the back-up discs.
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    • Gaz83
    • By Gaz83 11th Oct 16, 1:40 PM
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    Seems to me windows 10 is tying you into only using (and hence buying) Microsoft applications.
    Originally posted by PoshButNice
    Microsoft have tried to do this for years. It's no different to Ford only wanting you to buy Ford bulbs for your car, or Canon only wanting you to buy Canon inks for your printer.

    For example try changing your default photo viewer to anything other the the Windows app or the few other apps they list. If the app is not on that list, as many free photo apps are, you are shafted.
    Originally posted by PoshButNice
    This isn't true.
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    • tommix
    • By tommix 11th Oct 16, 1:46 PM
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    Got the perennial messages to download W10 onto my Windows tablet, and eventually did it.

    The tablet now makes an interesting coaster but nothing else. As soon as W10 was loaded onto it, it stopped working and hasn't worked since. By 'not working', I mean it wouldn't even turn on.
    Originally posted by quidsinquentin
    There you go..Load of cobblers if you ask me. Why would anyone want to download something that doesn't work? Oh sure it'll work eventually after you've waited 20 hours for it download and fixed the myriad problems associated with the damn thing..

    Probably very nice, providing you haven't had a heart attack by the time you reach the perfection you seek.
    Last edited by tommix; 11-10-2016 at 1:54 PM.
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