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    • allan2006
    • By allan2006 10th Oct 16, 6:56 PM
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    expired uk passport for id, ok or not?
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    • 10th Oct 16, 6:56 PM
    expired uk passport for id, ok or not? 10th Oct 16 at 6:56 PM
    im unemployed currently and i am applying for lots of jobs online. Ive just noticed my uk passport has expired last year.

    when i get a job, can i still use an expired passport as ID to prove im a British citizen or would i need to renew it?
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    • Undervalued
    • By Undervalued 10th Oct 16, 7:18 PM
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    There is no absolute answer to that. Ultimately it is up to the employer what id they find acceptable. It is their duty to reasonably satisfy themselves that the person is entitled to work in the UK but exactly how they do that is up to them.
    • kingfisherblue
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    • 10th Oct 16, 8:52 PM
    If you apply for a job that requires a DBS check, and want to use your passport as ID, then it needs to be valid. However, there are a number of other documents that could be used in that case.
    • Deep In Debt
    • By Deep In Debt 10th Oct 16, 9:18 PM
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    At my firm, we allow an expired passport provided it is not too expired and the picture looks like the person.

    Alternatively, for DBS purposes, we can accept a full birth certificate with a NI number.

    Page 13 of this document in the link might help.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/441957/employers_guide_to_acceptable_right_to_work_docume nts_v5.pdf
    • andygb
    • By andygb 11th Oct 16, 1:59 PM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 1:59 PM
    I have worked for firms where a passport is required as proof of ID, for money laundering checks/regulations, and it has to be a current, valid passport.
    • kingfisherblue
    • By kingfisherblue 11th Oct 16, 11:14 PM
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    • 11th Oct 16, 11:14 PM
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    I have worked for firms where a passport is required as proof of ID, for money laundering checks/regulations, and it has to be a current, valid passport.
    Originally posted by andygb
    Presumably the firms would allow other ID though? After all, not everyone has a passport. I've never had a ten year one, although I did have a single year family passport over twenty years ago, and was on a group passport for a school trip in 1983 - though neither of those would have been any use for ID.
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    • 12th Oct 16, 12:20 AM
    ML regulation states that you need to obtain an official document that confirms their identity.It doesn't say it has to be a passport but it is the easiest way to do it usually.
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    • General Grant
    • By General Grant 12th Oct 16, 7:12 AM
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    At my firm, we allow an expired passport provided it is not too expired and the picture looks like the person.

    Alternatively, for DBS purposes, we can accept a full birth certificate with a NI number.

    Page 13 of this document in the link might help.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/441957/employers_guide_to_acceptable_right_to_work_docume nts_v5.pdf
    Originally posted by Deep In Debt
    I think the link is broken.
    There are 3 "routes" for checking.
    Route 1 requires one from the following list
    Group 1

    Passport
    EU National Identity card
    Identity Card for Foreign Nationals (ICFN) / Biometric residence permit
    Driving licence (full or provisional)
    UK/Isle of Man /Channel Islands/EU; photocard
    Birth certificate (UK and Channel Islands) - issued within 12 months of date of birth – full or short form acceptable including those issued by UK authorities overseas, such as Embassies, High Commissions and HM Forces
    HM forces ID Card (UK)
    Firearms licence (UK)
    Adoption certificate (UK and Channel Islands)

    One of those has to be produced with other documents.

    But the online service my organisation uses accepts only a passport or photo driving licence and not a birth certificate issued within the first year of life or any other of the items listed.
    Last edited by General Grant; 12-10-2016 at 7:14 AM.
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