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    • One-Eye
    • By One-Eye 3rd Oct 16, 2:25 PM
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    MSE FAULT - Links open in current tab instead of a new tab - action required
    • #1
    • 3rd Oct 16, 2:25 PM
    MSE FAULT - Links open in current tab instead of a new tab - action required 3rd Oct 16 at 2:25 PM
    Since approx 11am this morning (03/10) if you (single left) click on a link in a forum post, the page opens in the CURRENT TAB instead of a NEW TAB.

    This applies to new posts only - posts created before 11am are still behaving correctly.

    This needs to revert back to normal ASAP.

    This is the exact same fault as happened in July 2015 - See THIS THREAD and THIS THREAD

    This (from July 2015) may give a clue as to what has been messed up:
    Some change they made has removed the target="_blank" attribute from posted links, which makes them open in a new window or tab by default.

    Hopefully they will put things back the way they were when they've had a chance for someone techie competent to take a look.
    Originally posted by fermi
    The MSE Techies should also note that correcting the problem for new posts will still leave any posts done from 11am 03/10 until the time the fault is corrected working incorrectly. I recall that in July 2015 a subsequent process was run to correct all the faulty links in posts made whilst the fault existed.

    In a nutshell:

    For this link: https://www.google.co.uk/

    The source code is:
    <a href = "https://www.google.co.uk/" rel= "nofollow">https://www.google.co.uk/</a>

    but it should be:
    <a href = "https://www.google.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel= "nofollow">https://www.google.co.uk/</a>


    Last edited by One-Eye; 05-10-2016 at 4:05 PM. Reason: adding useful info from the previous fault
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    • mattytun
    • By mattytun 13th Oct 16, 6:09 PM
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    mattytun
    49, doesn't work. Also tried it on a system I have with 43 on, doesn't work. Tried it on Pale Moon (Firefox-alike which uses Firefox/Mozilla code and on which all other Firefox addons work perfectly fine), doesn't work. Some of the reviews also suggest it is quite patchy on what it does and doesn't work on.

    Given up trying now because, quite frankly, I shouldn't need to be finding workarounds. This is an MSE instigated problem which needs fixing. The silence and total lack of concern or action from MSE is astounding and very hard to accept.
    Originally posted by redfox
    Did you move the "Slider" bar like in the picture?

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5535167&page=2
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    • mattytun
    • By mattytun 13th Oct 16, 6:14 PM
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    mattytun
    49, doesn't work. Also tried it on a system I have with 43 on, doesn't work. Tried it on Pale Moon (Firefox-alike which uses Firefox/Mozilla code and on which all other Firefox addons work perfectly fine), doesn't work. Some of the reviews also suggest it is quite patchy on what it does and doesn't work on.

    Given up trying now because, quite frankly, I shouldn't need to be finding workarounds. This is an MSE instigated problem which needs fixing. The silence and total lack of concern or action from MSE is astounding and very hard to accept.
    Originally posted by redfox
    There is "Tab Mix Plus" as well, but I've not had a play with it.

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus/?src=cb-dl-mostpopular
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    • redfox
    • By redfox 13th Oct 16, 7:59 PM
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    redfox
    There is "Tab Mix Plus" as well, but I've not had a play with it.
    Originally posted by mattytun
    just tried that one as well. Installs but doesn't work once installed so no improvement. Thanks anyway.
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    • lgardner
    • By lgardner 14th Oct 16, 4:08 PM
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    lgardner
    i think its to do with the way the links are put in the background the coding is wrong in the back, apparently you have to add a target="_blank" attributre to your links (anchor tags)

    So if the ref is a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/">bbc.co.uk</a>

    it needs to be href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/" target="_blank">bbc.co.uk</a>
    • DoaM
    • By DoaM 14th Oct 16, 4:36 PM
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    DoaM
    With respect, I'd suggest the forum team should be well aware of how that attribute works and how to apply it.
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    • 100mg
    • By 100mg 14th Oct 16, 5:53 PM
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    100mg
    Unless you're Tim Berners-Lee, this is unlikely. Even if you are, info.cern.ch , the http server for which went online 25 years and two months ago, didn't have target="_blank" on any of the links and the orignal text based browser ran in a shell and didn't have tabs.

    Perhaps a bit less than 25 years?
    Originally posted by onomatopoeia99
    Silly me. I haven't been running website for 25 years. I started out running a BBS on DOS in the late 80's, then a 2 line BBS on OS/2 in 1992 with Fidonet. My website activity started in 1993 & it had a .demon.co.uk address. However I only started using target="_blank" for the past 10 years.

    I can see why MSE uses a rel="nofollow", but a rel="external" should open the link in a new window, but when I tried it (on my non HTML 5 website), it didn't. Running Firefox 48.02, so I am sticking with the method posted in this thread of using the Open Link in New Tab Addon & setting the Level to Level 1.
    • rugmaker
    • By rugmaker 18th Oct 16, 7:35 AM
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    rugmaker
    Please can this be changed back ASAP. It's driving me mad. Just can't se a need for it.
    • redfox
    • By redfox 18th Oct 16, 7:59 AM
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    redfox
    Please can this be changed back ASAP. It's driving me mad. Just can't se a need for it.
    Originally posted by rugmaker

    I'm right with you on that.

    • rugmaker
    • By rugmaker 18th Oct 16, 3:18 PM
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    rugmaker
    An update would be appreciated please MSE. Can't you reinstate the old system while you investigate?
    • pookiepie
    • By pookiepie 19th Oct 16, 8:40 PM
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    pookiepie
    Can we please have an update - this is driving me mad!!!
    • LadyMorticia
    • By LadyMorticia 19th Oct 16, 8:42 PM
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    LadyMorticia
    I came to check if there was an update. Alas, there is not. Please, MSE, this is such a small thing that so many users are getting irate about. It's driving us all crazy!
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    • rugmaker
    • By rugmaker 20th Oct 16, 7:02 AM
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    rugmaker
    The way we are being ignored on this without even regular updates really is very very poor.
    • mattytun
    • By mattytun 20th Oct 16, 3:12 PM
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    mattytun
    Is there any updates you can give us MSE regarding this issue because as things go you have been shocking in not updating us, and I'm rather disappointed
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    • MSE Matt
    • By MSE Matt 21st Oct 16, 10:54 AM
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    MSE Matt
    Hi All,

    I'm afraid to say the situation hasn't changed and won't be changing in the near future hence the lack of (positive) update. The highest priority is the security of you, our users. Again we're sorry for the inconvenience in the functionality you're used to and we know this can be frustrating when you are used to this way of usage but there are alternative by using right-clicks and CTRL buttons.
    I can also see that some of you are trying out different browser plug-ins?

    regards
    Matt
    • LadyMorticia
    • By LadyMorticia 21st Oct 16, 11:00 AM
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    This is really annoying. Other sites allow links to be opened in new tabs without a security risk. Bah humbug!
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    • robbies_gal
    • By robbies_gal 28th Oct 16, 1:00 PM
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    robbies_gal
    this cant b e for our security its b een fine for years and no other sites do it

    shocking
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    • m1kjm
    • By m1kjm 3rd Nov 16, 8:02 PM
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    m1kjm
    It's so flipping tedious, it's unreal.

    I can only assume that those who work for MSE don't actually bother to use the forum because then they'd know how irritating it is.

    It's sad how MSE can slap a big red annoying banner across the forum screen when it suits them but they don't have the courtesy to notify their users of a change that ruins our enjoyment of the site.
    • mattytun
    • By mattytun 5th Nov 16, 3:56 PM
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    mattytun
    Is anyone using the Add-on I posted in #30 http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5535167&page=2

    Once I log out of competitions I just disable it then enable once I go back to competitions does the job for me Tabs open just like they used too
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    • rugmaker
    • By rugmaker 10th Nov 16, 2:03 PM
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    rugmaker
    Any update on this? I am afraid I am still far from convinced that it is really necessary.
    • forgotmyname
    • By forgotmyname 10th Nov 16, 2:39 PM
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    forgotmyname
    Maybe its just my setup but links have always opened in the same tab, unless i right click or most often use the wheel button to open the link in a new tab.

    Although i do use NoScript which blocks a lot of the junk on websites.
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