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    • WantToBeSE
    • By WantToBeSE 29th Sep 16, 2:04 PM
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    When did Dinner plates become so big?!
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    • 29th Sep 16, 2:04 PM
    When did Dinner plates become so big?! 29th Sep 16 at 2:04 PM
    I bought a new set of Dinner plates, for the first time in years and had to take them back, as the plates were HUGE!

    So i got a different set, and they are just as big! In fact, so were the majority of ones i looked at.

    Literally they are about double the size of what we need. When did plates get so big? No wonder there is an obesity epidemic, if people are actually filling a plate that size with food.

    So I've gone back to using my older (smaller!) set.

    When did they get so big, and why??



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    • freyasmum
    • By freyasmum 1st Oct 16, 6:52 PM
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    Out of interest, I measured my 'occasion' plates and they are 10.5", but they have a pattern around the outside that I would be hesitate to hide with food, so the usable space is rendered around 7.5". If I were entertaining, we'd have three courses and that is a LOT of food.

    I'm guessing that the fashion has come from fancy restaurants, the same as square plates and slates. It's the same as the catwalk trends filter through to the high street.

    I have white Breakfast plates. They are just the perfect size, 9 inches in diameter.

    But I do use larger dinner plates with guests! Just for show LOL.

    Re the stuffing your face issue at an open buffet. I just can't do that. It would make me sick. I absolutely detest an overflowing plate Ugh. But each to their own. I rarely leave anything behind though!

    My OH, on the other hand is what I can only describe as a scoffer. He has NEVER left as much as a scrap of lettuce on a plate. But he does work it off (I think). I am constantly having a go about the fact that never leaves ANYTHING on the plate whether he is full or not!

    He says it comes from his childhood growing up in deep countryside where you ate what you were given and were very glad of it. His parents made a show of giving anything left on the kids plates to the dogs and chickens. Never left anything on the plate then, and continues to this day!
    Originally posted by melanzana
    I really identify with him, I was brought up being told that there were starving children and babies in Africa (and replying back that they were welcome to send the excess food over to them ).

    I was ALWAYS told that I wasn't allowed to leave the table until I had finished my heaping plateful, and even as an adult I've had to ask for much reduced portions when visiting home. I also grew up overweight and had to teach myself as an adult what proper portions were. I still hate wasting food though, so sometimes I do still eat more than I need I am working on it though!

    As a result, I hate serving portions for people and much prefer to have a pot from which they can help themselves, according to their appetite.

    I despise heaping platefuls - they really put me off, and I don't know where to start!
    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 2nd Oct 16, 4:46 PM
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    My plates are about 35 years old and 9"x12" oval, I couldn't get by with smaller ones. I've seen the experiments showing that small plates encourage smaller portions, but I want to see some evidence that people don't just end up feeling hungry sooner and then eat between meals.
    Originally posted by jack_pott
    I certainly don't eat between meals; and if for whatever reason we're late having breakfast, I don't bother with lunch at all, or I'd be unable to eat my dinner.
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    • CurlyTop
    • By CurlyTop 2nd Oct 16, 8:18 PM
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    Hi

    I can totally relate to this post. Deciding to get a new dinner service ...only wanted plain white.... only wanted 10in plates .... Could I find them? Could I heck as like. Got fed up of looking on t'internet and then getting to the shop and seeing them close up only to find I didn't like the quzlity.

    I ended up going to a shop that had recently opened called Nisbetts. They supply catering equipment to trade and public. Day we popped in they hadn't opened (DH had spotted it en route to work and thought they were open). Lovely man in there let us have a quick look around to see if they stocked what we wanted. He then told us to come back the following week when they were holding a promotion dY with 20% off. We got 12 of the 10in dinner plates and 10 side plates for about 50 pound with discount off. We also got a goodie bag that had an apron, tea towel, and good quality ice cream scoop in. They hzve washed so well. I'm well chuffed. Let's hope it's another 20 years before I need another set.
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    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 2nd Oct 16, 9:27 PM
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    This thread has given me the willies since it was started cos my plates are big

    Finally plucked up the courage to measure them, and just six inches ( phew)

    They are bigger, but they have a 2 inch rim

    I don't put food on the rim
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    • Honey Bear
    • By Honey Bear 3rd Oct 16, 10:41 AM
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    I was ALWAYS told that I wasn't allowed to leave the table until I had finished my heaping plateful, and even as an adult I've had to ask for much reduced portions when visiting home. I also grew up overweight and had to teach myself as an adult what proper portions were. I still hate wasting food though, so sometimes I do still eat more than I need I am working on it though!

    As a result, I hate serving portions for people and much prefer to have a pot from which they can help themselves, according to their appetite.

    I despise heaping platefuls - they really put me off, and I don't know where to start!
    Originally posted by freyasmum
    I'm with you on heaving platefuls - I feel sick looking at one in front of me.

    Food was my mother's passion. She was the best cook I've ever known and I've yet to find a restaurant that can serve food that was as imaginitive, fantastically well cooked, and beautifully presented. From a very, very young age we were told to help ourselves to what we wanted, and were expected to finish what we'd put on our plates. If we didn't - no pudding. It was very straightforward.

    I still struggle when other people serve my food because only I know how hungry I am, or what I like and dislike, although I managed to force a liver casserole down the other day when it was plonked in front of me by someone who doesn't know me. As I guest on that particular occasion I felt I couldn't really say, 'Actually, the smell of this makes me heave.' For the first time ever I didn't salt my food and as a result it was so bland I could eat it. The plate was a big one, so yes, the hostess had made the food look generous and that made it even worse. I rather hope we're not invited back there.
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    • honeythewitch
    • By honeythewitch 3rd Oct 16, 12:11 PM
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    Slowly we have a carvery we go to sometimes, and I say exactly the same. They walk back to their table with the plate piled high with food and then leave half of it. I just think they are greedy, or as my dear Mum would have said "eyes bigger than their stomach"

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    Originally posted by candlelight 2013
    The way I see it is that if you pay for the food, it belongs to you, and you have the right to do what you want with it. Either eat it or leave it. It makes no difference to anyone else.

    I always take a bit of everything and If it turns out that I dont like it, I leave it and eat the bits I do like.
    Meals are not meant to be an endurance test.

    As houses and flats have shrunk in size, so dinner plates have increased. Most odd. I don't know where people are supposed to store all of this outsize stuff.
    Originally posted by Honey Bear
    Yes! Sorry to go off topic, but why are so many chairs and couches twice the size they used to be, when they often have to fit into rooms half the size?
    • suki1964
    • By suki1964 3rd Oct 16, 1:00 PM
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    The way I see it is that if you pay for the food, it belongs to you, and you have the right to do what you want with it. Either eat it or leave it. It makes no difference to anyone else.

    I always take a bit of everything and If it turns out that I dont like it, I leave it and eat the bits I do like.
    Meals are not meant to be an endurance test.



    Yes! Sorry to go off topic, but why are so many chairs and couches twice the size they used to be, when they often have to fit into rooms half the size?
    Originally posted by honeythewitch
    So they can accomadate the fat bums of the people eating from the large dinner plates perhaps?
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    • kathrynha
    • By kathrynha 3rd Oct 16, 1:23 PM
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    My mum bought new plates but then went back to their old ones because of the size.


    At home I am loathe to change my plates, as they are still quite new, and mainly unchipped, but when I do replace them I will definitely be looking for smaller plates, as I know I have a tendency to fill plates when serving out, and I was brought up to finish what was on my plate.
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    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 3rd Oct 16, 2:04 PM
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    The standard Denby dinner plate has grown over time. (Strong case for sticking to the older patterns!)

    What made my eyes cross when when they brought out "gourmet" plates - the only justification I could see for which would be acting as a charger plate. (Apart from boosting their sales.)

    Yet I was persuaded into buying two, "just to see". I saw them not fit into my cupboard & removed them quietly to storage.
    • Islandmaid
    • By Islandmaid 3rd Oct 16, 2:26 PM
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    To be honest, when eating out, I am just grateful if the food is served on a plate.

    What is with this fad of serving food in slates, wooden boards etc the flippin' food falls off!!!! And why would I want 3 chips in a tiny frying basket, if I order chips, I want CHIPS, not Chips.

    I agree that some places serve ridiculous portions, I order a pensioner portion at those places, and at home we have modest plate size, and eat a lot out of a bowl.
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    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 3rd Oct 16, 2:27 PM
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    I still struggle when other people serve my food because only I know how hungry I am, or what I like and dislike, although I managed to force a liver casserole down the other day when it was plonked in front of me by someone who doesn't know me. As I guest on that particular occasion I felt I couldn't really say, 'Actually, the smell of this makes me heave.' For the first time ever I didn't salt my food and as a result it was so bland I could eat it. The plate was a big one, so yes, the hostess had made the food look generous and that made it even worse. I rather hope we're not invited back there.
    Originally posted by Honey Bear
    Oh gods, HB, you are a true heroine! I'd have been physically sick, there and then!
    Yes! Sorry to go off topic, but why are so many chairs and couches twice the size they used to be, when they often have to fit into rooms half the size?
    Originally posted by honeythewitch
    I was going to say it's to accommodate fat a$$es resulting from eating the contents of piled-up large dinner plates, but Suki beat me to it.

    My dinner service was actually a free gift from one of the catalogues, many years ago, when they were all competing for custom, and offering quite decent gifts with the first £25 order. I was trying to get fairly decent stuff for my house (having moved from a tiny flat) so it was easy to order £25 of things I actually needed, and I did several of those, and got a load of other much needed stuff for free!
    When I divorced the ex, I brought the (totally intact and in fact had never been used) dinner service with me; it has been used by myself and the lovely DH I have now for the last 14 years. The plates may be a tad larger than ideal, but I won't buy new til we actually need to.
    ETA: I just went and measured the dinner plate that's sitting in the drying rack (DH ate lunch, I didn't) and they are nine and three quarters inches in diameter, with a three quarter inch rim, giving an eight and a quarter inch diameter "serving surface".
    Last edited by LameWolf; 03-10-2016 at 2:34 PM.
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    • katkin
    • By katkin 3rd Oct 16, 2:32 PM
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    I have an older style of Denby dinner service. The main plates are still quite large, the salad ones a bit too small. However, I do like leaving lots of space around the food as I think it looks nice and more presentable. You don't always need to fill the whole plate up.

    If I put out a meal in serving dishes I tend to eat too much as I go back and refill. A set meal on the plate seems to "feel" just right for me.

    Im finding it better to put veggies and / or salad in a serving bowl to be the best combo for us. That way I can return until my appetite is satisfied with lower calorie nutritious foods and still have nicely presented protein and a small portion of carbs on the big dinner plate. It's okay to fill up on the greens!

    Making the meal presentable whatever it is (that also includes frugal ones) makes it satisfying, plus the option for extra fresh veggies or salad makes for a fulfilling meal.

    Hence I'm ok with any plate! It's the foods that count...
    • busiscoming2
    • By busiscoming2 12th Oct 16, 10:40 PM
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    I agree, bigger plates mean you put on more food. That's why I downsized my plates a good few years ago. I find it really difficult to find 9" plates though. I use the old large ones for my lunch sandwich as I can make it without getting the breadboard dirty
    • Kim kim
    • By Kim kim 12th Oct 16, 10:48 PM
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    I watch a lot of cookery programmes like Masterchef Australia and it seems to be the fashion to have a big plate with a small amount of food on. I wonder if that is why there is this trend for large plates, not because people are filling them and eating more
    Originally posted by patricia50
    Yes, it's not about piling it on now. It's about arranging it artistically.
    • glasgowdan
    • By glasgowdan 13th Oct 16, 6:27 AM
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    Is there nobody here with a bloody good appetite? You all seem to be saying you hardly eat anything, how do you survive?!

    The plate size shouldn't make a difference to how much you eat, just put on the right amount of food. I have a physical job, physical hobbies and a physical home life and I eat mountains. I'm slim and if I don't eat like a horse (grazing all day plus 3 big set meals) I lose weight and suffer from fatigue.

    Big plates are designed for aesthetic appeal, no doubting that. As mentioned by others, it comes from catering and TV chefery. Everyone thinks they're a masterchef contender!
    • SuzieSue
    • By SuzieSue 13th Oct 16, 8:59 AM
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    Is there nobody here with a bloody good appetite? You all seem to be saying you hardly eat anything, how do you survive?!
    Originally posted by glasgowdan
    It doesn't matter about appetite. It's what you put on your plate. We eat a lot of broccoli and it takes up a lot of space so I struggle to fit it all on a 30" plate with everything else.
    • glasgowdan
    • By glasgowdan 13th Oct 16, 10:41 AM
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    A 30" plate! That I have to see. ��
    • paddy's mum
    • By paddy's mum 13th Oct 16, 10:53 AM
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    When I moved into this area and had access to so much more fresh veggies (local farmers often invite neighbours to glean after a crop is harvested) I had to seek out much larger plates and it was only then that I realised how much space adult portions of, say, four or five vegetables take up.

    At one time we were using restaurant style steak platters to fit it all on because otherwise we would have needed two plates - one for the meat, gravy and potatoes and one for the vegetables.

    It's surprising how much space a knuckle of cauliflower, eight sprouts, a generous spoonful of carrot, a chunk of parsnip and some sauteed onion can take up unless you are of the ilk that piles the whole lot up into one unappealing slag heap.
    • SuzieSue
    • By SuzieSue 13th Oct 16, 10:54 AM
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    A 30" plate! That I have to see. ��
    Originally posted by glasgowdan
    Sorry 30cm!
    • SuzieSue
    • By SuzieSue 13th Oct 16, 10:57 AM
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    When I moved into this area and had access to so much more fresh veggies (local farmers often invite neighbours to glean after a crop is harvested) I had to seek out much larger plates and it was only then that I realised how much space adult portions of, say, four or five vegetables take up.

    At one time we were using restaurant style steak platters to fit it all on because otherwise we would have needed two plates - one for the meat, gravy and potatoes and one for the vegetables.

    It's surprising how much space a knuckle of cauliflower, eight sprouts, a generous spoonful of carrot, a chunk of parsnip and some sauteed onion can take up unless you are of the ilk that piles the whole lot up into one unappealing slag heap.
    Originally posted by paddy's mum
    Exactly and it is even worse if you don't eat meat and potatoes like us as they are much more filling and so take up less space on a plate than non-meat alternatives.
    Last edited by SuzieSue; 13-10-2016 at 11:00 AM.
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