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    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 28th Sep 16, 6:59 PM
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    **** IMPORTANT: BEFORE YOU POST - Personal info in posts.
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    • 28th Sep 16, 6:59 PM
    **** IMPORTANT: BEFORE YOU POST - Personal info in posts. 28th Sep 16 at 6:59 PM
    It continues to amaze and worry me how much possibly identifying information posters asking for help re: private parking tickets put in their posts.

    The private parking companies do read these forums, and some posters are leaving information in their posts which could identify their case, and this could lead to problems particularly if a case went to small claims.

    For example:

    Posters using their real name in their username or as part of it, e.g. if your name is Roger Mellie, having the username "rogermellie123". Use something that couldn't possibly identify you by your real name. for example "PPC Slayer" or something!

    The exact date and time of the parking event. Date is fine, but is it a good idea to state you entered the car park at 10:13am and left at 11:16? Better to state that you entered the car park and left an hour and 3 minutes later. Alternatively, make up the times, but keep the intervals between them the same.

    Any reference numbers (POPLA, Vehicle Reg No, PPC case numbers etc etc)

    In the event of a court claim or a LBA - stating the exact amount being claimed. I remember earlier this year (I think) someone posting that they received a court claim and put the exact amount of something like £352.17 in the thread.
    Next thing we know is that the PPC has PMed the OP saying words to the effect of "we have identified your case, we only have one case with this exact claim amount and this thread will be produced in court as evidence against you".
    Be more vague about the amount, e.g. "Several hundred pounds" etc.

    If posting scans of letters, be sure to redact any info as above - in addition, blank out any barcodes or QR codes (the square-shaped pattern codes) which could be sneakily used to ID cases. I've seen a lot of these left on scans and always wondered if it is wise to leave them there.

    In summary:
    Don't post your real name, including as your username. Avoid posting exact times of posting events, or exact amounts on invoices.



    We don't need to know these in order to offer advice.
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
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    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 28th Sep 16, 8:02 PM
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    • 28th Sep 16, 8:02 PM
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    • 28th Sep 16, 8:02 PM
    In addition, don't use web hosting sites with your real name as the user name, or where other pictures with personal data can be viewed. I have seen someone on here post pics on photobucket where personal information could be viewed in another album under the same username.
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    • Aaron Aadvark
    • By Aaron Aadvark 28th Sep 16, 8:12 PM
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    • #3
    • 28th Sep 16, 8:12 PM
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    • 28th Sep 16, 8:12 PM
    Also, don't identify the driver.

    Don't use "I entered the car park", "I didn't see the signs" etc

    Instead use "The driver entered the car park", "The driverdidn't see the signs" etc
    Je suis Charlie
    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 28th Sep 16, 8:52 PM
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    • 28th Sep 16, 8:52 PM
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    • 28th Sep 16, 8:52 PM
    Also, don't identify the driver.

    Don't use "I entered the car park", "I didn't see the signs" etc

    Instead use "The driver entered the car park", "The driverdidn't see the signs" etc
    Originally posted by Aaron Aadvark
    Indeed.

    That is covered in the Newbies thread also.
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 29th Sep 16, 2:14 PM
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    • 29th Sep 16, 2:14 PM
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    • 29th Sep 16, 2:14 PM
    bump bump bump
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 30th Sep 16, 2:01 PM
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    catfunt
    • #6
    • 30th Sep 16, 2:01 PM
    • #6
    • 30th Sep 16, 2:01 PM
    bump bump bump
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 2nd Oct 16, 7:15 PM
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    • 2nd Oct 16, 7:15 PM
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    • 2nd Oct 16, 7:15 PM
    and again.................
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
    • Autolycus2000
    • By Autolycus2000 9th Oct 16, 2:29 PM
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    • 9th Oct 16, 2:29 PM
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    • 9th Oct 16, 2:29 PM
    Wouldn't it be a good idea to make this a sticky thread?
    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 9th Oct 16, 2:58 PM
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    • #9
    • 9th Oct 16, 2:58 PM
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    • 9th Oct 16, 2:58 PM
    I agree, but it is not in my gift to do so.
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 9th Oct 16, 3:24 PM
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    Umkomaas
    MSE in general is reluctant to have any stickies. It took a lot of persuading to have the NEWBIES FAQ sticky pinned.
    NEWBIES - wise up - DO NOT IGNORE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE - you have been warned!

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Please note: I am NOT involved in any 'paid for' appeals service.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 9th Oct 16, 3:27 PM
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    Coupon-mad
    MSE will not allow any more stickies, we are lucky to have more than one, apparently!
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 9th Oct 16, 5:53 PM
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    catfunt
    That's what I thought was the case.
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
    • Autolycus2000
    • By Autolycus2000 9th Oct 16, 6:41 PM
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    Autolycus2000
    I see. What about incorporating this advice, or a link to this thread, into the Newbies thread?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 9th Oct 16, 6:44 PM
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    Coupon-mad
    I might do next time I update the NEWBIES thread. It's (deliberately, my choice) closed for replies which blocks me from editing so I have to ask specially, and only do this every few months when I'm ready and have time to make several changes that are in the offing.

    I will!
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 20th Oct 16, 10:07 AM
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    catfunt
    Bumped in the light of some recent posts.
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 20th Oct 16, 10:27 AM
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    IamEmanresu
    When was the last time there was a case when a MSE thread was produced as evidence?
    General Election coming up? Your MP worried about his/her job? Give them something to do and get them to sort out these parking cowboys. Search "Theyworkforyou" for the name of your MP.
    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 20th Oct 16, 12:45 PM
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    catfunt
    When was the last time there was a case when a MSE thread was produced as evidence?
    Originally posted by IamEmanresu
    Not sure if this is a rhetorical question, or a genuine one

    I cant remember the specific case, but I do remember reading about it.

    In addition

    Next thing we know is that the PPC has PMed the OP saying words to the effect of "we have identified your case, we only have one case with this exact claim amount and this thread will be produced in court as evidence against you".
    Originally posted by catfunt
    I don't know what happened with this case as the OP never came back with the result of any case, but suspect she just panicked and paid up in the end.

    IMHO, you cannot be cautious enough when dealing with PPCs, some of them are a devious bunch.
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
    • Fruitcake
    • By Fruitcake 20th Oct 16, 12:59 PM
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    Fruitcake
    Only a few weeks ago I received a PM from someone I was helping off forum. They told me the whole of their thread had been quoted back to them when they made their initial appeal to the PPC.
    They had been identified by some of the very specific information they had revealed in their thread.
    I married my cousin. I had to...
    I don't have a sister.

    All my screwdrivers are cordless.
    "You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks
    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 20th Oct 16, 6:14 PM
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    catfunt
    only a few weeks ago i received a pm from someone i was helping off forum. They told me the whole of their thread had been quoted back to them when they made their initial appeal to the ppc.
    They had been identified by some of the very specific information they had revealed in their thread.
    Originally posted by fruitcake
    q.e.d. .............................
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
    • IamEmanresu
    • By IamEmanresu 21st Oct 16, 6:50 AM
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    IamEmanresu
    There's no "q" in paranoia
    General Election coming up? Your MP worried about his/her job? Give them something to do and get them to sort out these parking cowboys. Search "Theyworkforyou" for the name of your MP.
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