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    • pollyanna 26
    • By pollyanna 26 11th Sep 16, 9:56 PM
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    OS ways and Poor Health
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    • 11th Sep 16, 9:56 PM
    OS ways and Poor Health 11th Sep 16 at 9:56 PM
    Earlier today I joined a very good new thread on getting back to old style ways . I managed to take it in another direction by mentioning how ill health can impact on doing everything the old style way . As this was off topic to the original post . I will be posting on the original topic but without going off in another direction
    This seems to happen a lot of the time across the threads as many old stylers do have to cope with this problem .
    Many moons ago PREPARE AT HOME began a lengthy thread on being os with health problems and there have been a couple of other threads over the years .
    I am wondering if the time is right for another thread on the subject with the proviso it is not offering advice on medical subjects as that is for the professionals . We all do many things day to day to minimise fatigue and pain and though they are little things we have developed them to cope and others may not be aware of how helpful the little changes can be .
    I would be interested to see if others would like to join such a thread . I am not very techie as you will gather from my rambling post and have never started a thread before - I hope this posts !
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    • Wednesday2000
    • By Wednesday2000 15th Sep 17, 9:37 AM
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    Vitamins and supplements! Does anyone else take loads?

    I counted how many I take a day. I'm starting Evening Primrose oil and Agnus Castus today to see if that helps with PMT as my period is due over the weekend.

    Combined calcium, magnesium and zinc - I take that at night with my Lyrica medication.

    During the day I take -

    Super B Complex.
    Resveratrol.
    Cherry tablet.
    Co-Enzyme Q10.
    NAC/ N-acetyl-l-cysteine.

    I also take a general multivitamin, vitamin D and a B12 chewable a few times a week.
    "It doesn't cost any more to dream big."
    • Prinzessilein
    • By Prinzessilein 15th Sep 17, 10:25 AM
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    Morning!

    I am soooo tired....some fool decided to make toast at half-past one this morning...and managed to not only burn it, but burn it with enough smoke to set off the fire alarm...20 minutes it was blaring/flashing....there are some very tired and grumpy residents this morning!

    I only take one vitamin....a multivit/mineral...I did take an extra high-dose fish oil for a while, recommended by my skin specialist, but it had absolutely no effect - even after months of taking it, so I decided to save the cash and stop buying those.

    My multivit/mineral is one that is designed for the older woman (50+)...I used to take the one designed for 'woman'...then one for 'menopausal women'....now it is 'older 50+'....and another decade or so and it will be the 'older woman 70+'...assuming I am still around!
    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 15th Sep 17, 10:33 AM
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    Hi everyone.

    first an update on the Boswellia.....spoke too soon. It did affect my stomach after all so I've had to give it up. Pity because it was great for pain relief. Hey ho. The search continues. I have ordered some boswelia cream, so hopefully that might have similar pain relieving effects but without the added stomach complications. I'll keep you posted.

    Wednesday.....like you I went for a massage yesterday, a deep tissue Swedish massage. I almost leapt off the table in pain......I don't know which was worse the original pain issue or the treatment. talk about making my eyes water. My poor Physio kept apologising. She could see how bad my muscles were and that I was in a lot of pain.

    However, I did feel better afterwards. I slept like a log and I feel a lot better today.

    Noticed I now have a large bony deposit on my right hand....that's a new one.

    Re vitamins.....yes I take a fair few, all recommended by the nutritionist I saw. The one thing that helps me more than anything is a high strength probiotic. I really notice a difference in my digestive health if I run out.

    I notice that you can now get probiotics specifically aimed at helping foreign travel. Given that I always, without fail, fall victim to what I shall politely call "travellers tummy" I think I might give them a try on my next foreign excursion.

    Reservatrol..... not tried that but I do enjoy a glass of red wine.

    ELona......well done on the weight loss. That's terrific. Hope the boswellia suits you.

    Hope you are all well. I have found the colder weather has affected my muscles but that is to be expected.
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    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 15th Sep 17, 10:36 AM
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    Prinzess I'm glad you got DWP to sort out their error; but I'm sure you could have done without the stress. Idiots! They make me so cross; the process is bad enough to begin with, without them screwing up the payments.

    Cranky ouchy! I hope you're not too sore; and well done to the House Troll for aiding you.

    Wednesday I take a multivitamin, an iron tablet, and calcium supplement.
    I'm pleased your head massage was beneficial. I'm afraid I couldn't take that, I have a total phobia of anyone other than Mr LW touching me.

    I'm very sore and tired today; we went to the cinema yesterday, after Daisy was collected, as Mr LW wanted to see "The Limehouse Golem". It was very good, absolutely gripping; but as always, visiting the cinema has taken it's toll on me. If it was down to me, I wouldn't bother; but Mr LW likes to go, and won't go on his own, the daftie.

    Bluebell should be here in about 25 minutes.
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    • Wednesday2000
    • By Wednesday2000 15th Sep 17, 11:52 AM
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    I did the laundry and the online order so I went to the shop to buy fresh lemons for my ginger tea. It's quite warm and sunny out there now.

    My husband is going out to the cinema so I will have a quiet afternoon watching TV and doing my photo album.


    Wednesday.....like you I went for a massage yesterday, a deep tissue Swedish massage. I almost leapt off the table in pain......I don't know which was worse the original pain issue or the treatment. talk about making my eyes water. My poor Physio kept apologising. She could see how bad my muscles were and that I was in a lot of pain.

    However, I did feel better afterwards. I slept like a log and I feel a lot better today.
    Originally posted by lessonlearned
    Oh, wow, I couldn't take that much pressure these days. It's nice that you got a good sleep afterwards.

    I was taking a probiotic but ran out and haven't replaced them, another thing to add to my list, haha!
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    • maddiemay
    • By maddiemay 15th Sep 17, 2:53 PM
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    We survived a wet and windy holiday in N Wales, to be fair the first 3 days were pretty good and we did some nice things. I caught a head cold while away and was a bit under the weather, but OH now has one and has been really suffering, this is the man who is hardly ever ill, so it hit him pretty hard.

    I too have been for a deep tissue massage this morning, rather ouchy, but I normally benefit greatly. Back at gym yesterday, I am pleased that I have felt much stronger the last few sessions and had better recovery time too PT is brilliant and always ensures that he is au fait with my latest condition and makes sure that I do not do more damage.

    My GP is not back at surgery until 1st week of October, so cannot start the Hydroxychloroquine yet, but am taking the opportunity of having an eye test as specified by the Consultant and also continuing to try and heal my gut. Taking pre and pro-biotics and being very careful about what I eat, it seems to be paying off so far as I have slept through several nights (unheard of) and being much more comfortable IYSWIM

    LL - sorry that the Boswellia has caused problems, it seemed so promising for you.
    Wednesday - enjoy your afternoon to yourself. (OH and I managed not to commit murder even tho' we were banged up together in a small caravan for a week!
    Lamewolf - I hope that Bluebell is settled in.
    Cranky - I hope that you are not too sore, well done to the HT.
    AOT - It must have been awful being trapped in your home, I hope that it does not happen again.
    Prinzessilein - I hope that you have regained your equilibrium, it was so wrong of them to just assume circumstances without evidence.

    There is a mountain of dirty washing awaiting sorting and dealing with, neither of us has felt up to it since we got home.

    Miss Border Collie didn't get a free run yesterday as OH was so poorly, but I did manage to hobble around the block with her yesterday afternoon, she was not too happy at having to wear her Halti, but I am just not strong enough to hold her if she suddenly deviates to explore a particularly attractive smell she has found, to be fair to her she is not badly behaved, but I am rather feeble
    • candygirl
    • By candygirl 15th Sep 17, 3:41 PM
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    'LL sorry re your tummy probs. Probiotic wise I use acidophilus to line my tum, as I take a lot of NSAIDS for arthritis , not medical advice BTW
    Am absolutely frozen again today! Think my thyroid needs checking again lol It was "borderline " last time, which from experience at my docs means, they CBA treating me for something
    LW I bet you're already havibg squishy, staffy songs with Bluebell ❤
    Healing HUGGLES to all in need today xx
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    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 15th Sep 17, 3:44 PM
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    Lamewolf - I hope that Bluebell is settled in.

    Miss Border Collie didn't get a free run yesterday as OH was so poorly, but I did manage to hobble around the block with her yesterday afternoon, she was not too happy at having to wear her Halti, but I am just not strong enough to hold her if she suddenly deviates to explore a particularly attractive smell she has found, to be fair to her she is not badly behaved, but I am rather feeble
    Originally posted by maddiemay
    Thank you, Bluebell has made herself completely at home; she is currently snoozing on the sofa, having had a lovely walk - I let her take pretty much as long as she wished to explore all the new smells, as she was last here in April.

    Re Miss Border Collie - if you're not totally confident of being strong enough to hold her, it's best to play safe in my opinion. After all, if she pulls you over and you hurt yourself while your DH is poorly, who will take her for any sort of a walk? Shame I'm not near you, I'd have gladly walked her for you.

    Candygirl I've already been treated to a "Staffie Kiss" and had my bare foot trodden on twice.
    LameWolf
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    • candygirl
    • By candygirl 15th Sep 17, 4:42 PM
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    Ouchy LW! They have little, sharp feet don't they? Naughty Bon is currently running round with a dead aloe Vera plant lol 😁
    MM my late collie, n labs all hated their haltis at first, but soon got used to them, n made my life so much easier when walking them ☺
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    • Tink_04
    • By Tink_04 15th Sep 17, 8:14 PM
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    Hi everyone! I'm always playing catch up, I can never remember who posted what so I'm sorry I don't personally reply to people.

    I've had the hating on quite a bit and I'm changing from my summer 4.5 tog quilt to my 9tog one tomorrow as it's just too chilly! I'm another one with the quilts you clip together and I've had mine 10 years and it's still amazing! Each half gets laundered and it's really still has loads of feathers and is really fluffy!

    I've been playing around with my diet and have cut all the rubbish out and I've gon GF and Dairy free after talking to my nurse, it's made a massive difference to how I feel and I've lost 7lb! Really pleased with that.

    I take a few multi vitamins
    A high dose Vitamin D, B plus, C , turmeric, and a multi vit too.

    Kids are back at school and DS is so tired, he is only just 4 so it's a lot for him. I'm phasing back into work and I'm feeling quite confident which surprised me as I was so worried about going back.

    You have all reminded me I need to get my flu jab booked in!

    Hope everyone is well - I'm sitting on the side with the fire on and a blanket as it's chilly tonight, think it will be an early night here!
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    • Wednesday2000
    • By Wednesday2000 16th Sep 17, 8:38 AM
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    I want to get my flu jab too, I've been having it at the pharmacy over the past few years as I was a carer for my husband so it was free there. I wonder if I get it at the GP now I have fibro. Another thing to ask my poor GP when I see him.

    I got my period yesterday (a few days early) and I didn't have much pain at all. I'm wondering if that was because I had the massage the day before or that I was drinking the ginger tea yesterday.

    I think I will start the day with ginger tea all month from now on.Ginger Tea to Relieve Menstrual Cramps | LIVESTRONG.COM
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    • CRANKY40
    • By CRANKY40 16th Sep 17, 9:18 AM
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    Morning all. I'm cleaning today (slowly because it hurts) and having a housey kind of day. The kitchen is done so I'm having a tea break before I start on the living room. The floors will have to be swept rather than vacuumed as the Dyson is upstairs and I don't think that trying to carry it down is a good plan just yet. I went to see my gp yesterday. He gave me painkillers and sent me for x-rays but it doesn't look like I've broken anything luckily.

    My next door neighbour's dog is a staffy. If he's in the alleyway when I'm putting the washing out he gets a couple of biscuits out of the cat bowl. You'd think he hadn't been fed for weeks or they were a super treat the way he behaves
    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 16th Sep 17, 9:21 AM
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    Old Wives used to tell New Wives to drink raspberry leaf tea for both menstrual cramps and to make childbirth easier......... I didn't find out till after I had had my babies so can't comment about the childbirth bit.

    Apparently ginger is a good anti inflammatory so yes I can see that it would ease menstrual cramps. I try and drink ginger tea but sometimes it upsets my poor old tummy (I know it's just very delicate and rather temperamental, anything sets it off). I tend to add ginger to stir fries etc - seems to make it easier to digest.

    But I'm sure the massage will have helped you, relaxing the muscles to minimise cramps. Can you swim. Swimming regularly is apparently one of the best things for menstrual pain.

    Still feeling sore and stiff so just about to have a nice soak in the bath. I find that one of the best therapies for me. I dread the day when I can no longer manage a bath. A shower just doesn't do it for me.
    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 16th Sep 17, 11:54 AM
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    I want to get my flu jab too, I've been having it at the pharmacy over the past few years as I was a carer for my husband so it was free there. I wonder if I get it at the GP now I have fibro. Another thing to ask my poor GP when I see him.
    Originally posted by Wednesday2000
    I don't know if Fibro is on the list of illnesses that qualify for a free flu jab or not; lupus is not, which my GP was surprised and somewhat indignant about; so Mr LW gets a flu jab (he's my Carer and also over 65), and I don't.
    My next door neighbour's dog is a staffy. If he's in the alleyway when I'm putting the washing out he gets a couple of biscuits out of the cat bowl. You'd think he hadn't been fed for weeks or they were a super treat the way he behaves
    Originally posted by CRANKY40
    He's probably as pleased to get the attention as the treat itself; Staffies just want to be loved.
    LameWolf
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    • candygirl
    • By candygirl 16th Sep 17, 3:47 PM
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    Re raspberry tea for Labour.My DD drank it throughout her first pregnancy, but had a traumatic placental abruption, bled all over, n had to be blue lighted to hospital.Several midwives asked her if she'd been drinking it , n said it can cause such probs Luckily DGD was born fit n healthy in the end ❤
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    • lessonlearned
    • By lessonlearned 16th Sep 17, 7:04 PM
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    Yes I've heard that too. I can't remember if you are supposed to avoid taking it during the first 20 weeks of gestation or the latter 20 weeks.

    PS I have Just double checked the guidelines......it can be taken from 36 weeks gestation.

    I think that all these old Wives tales, whilst containing an element of science and the power to do good, we do have to remember that they belong to a time when science was less advanced and when people were less knowledgeable.

    Perhaps raspberry leaf tea does relieve premenstrual cramps without a high of complications but perhaps the risk of complications in childbirth is just too high. And nowadays of course there are better and more sophisticated ways of controlling pain during labour.

    As for menstrual cramps I did try feminax but again it upset my stomach so I had to make do with paracetamol and hot water bottles.

    I think women are much safer with the NHS and modern obstetrics than they were in the bad old days before the NHS. Both my grandmothers were midwives, both In the days before the NHS. One worked with a doctor who had very rich patients. The other worked in a very poor neighbourhood where people couldn't afford doctors and who relied solely on my grandmother. She did her best for them but conditions were hard and the mortality rate was high.

    My friend is a retired midwife, with a career in midwifery spanning 40 years. Even now, even with the NHS some of the stories she tells are very sad, and it does make you realise that there is still no such thing as risk free pregnancies and that childbirth can still go horribly wrong.

    My eldest son nearly died at birth and he could so easily have taken me with him. Luckily I was being monitored because of a couple of false alarms, I was taken into hospital early as a precaution. I had a very experienced consultant and I really couldn't fault the care of the whole team. They saved our lives. This is why, despite my interest in natural medicines I am very much against home births.

    I do think you need to be in the right place if things go wrong,
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    • pollyanna 26
    • By pollyanna 26 18th Sep 17, 9:10 AM
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    Good morning all . I'm playing catch up like Tink !
    The last few days I've felt as though I was wading through treacle . I woke a few days ago with a painful back and was not very mobile .
    It's not so bad today so fingers crossed it's calming down .
    I think a lot of us are feeling the weather changes over the last few days .
    wednesday Fibro isn't a condition that would fit the criteria for the flu jab . Youngest gets hers due to being on an on MTX which lowers her Immune system and got it the jab prior to that due to Chronic Asthma .
    LW Aren't you on medication that lowers your immune system ? Often they are used for Lupus treatment . If you are you would qualify for the free jab .
    I'll read back properly and for now wish all a good day .
    polly x
    • Wednesday2000
    • By Wednesday2000 18th Sep 17, 11:11 AM
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    My GP gave me more Lyrica tablets to take twice a day and Naratriptan for if/when I get another migraine. He said to wait and see what the MH service says to me tomorrow on the phone before he will refer me to the sleep clinic.

    I really noticed the cold today when I was waiting for the bus. The weather has definitely changed.

    The last few days I've felt as though I was wading through treacle . I woke a few days ago with a painful back and was not very mobile .
    It's not so bad today so fingers crossed it's calming down .
    I think a lot of us are feeling the weather changes over the last few days .
    wednesday Fibro isn't a condition that would fit the criteria for the flu jab . Youngest gets hers due to being on an on MTX which lowers her Immune system and got it the jab prior to that due to Chronic Asthma .
    Originally posted by pollyanna 26
    I'm glad you are feeling a bit better today.xx I meant to ask about the flu jab at my GP appointment today. I will probably just get it at the pharmacy anyway.
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    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 18th Sep 17, 1:16 PM
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    LW Aren't you on medication that lowers your immune system ? Often they are used for Lupus treatment . If you are you would qualify for the free jab .
    Originally posted by pollyanna 26
    Dr F checked when I saw her last, and Lupus isn't on the list of "approved illnesses" as it were. I think it's probably because it's so variable - for some it's just a bit of a nuisance and doesn't impact their life a vast amount, and for others it's completely debilitating; and for still other it fluctuates between these in a totally unpredictable way. So the Powers That Be who set the guidelines go with the "it's just a minor nuisance" stance as the standard, therefore no free flu jab for Lupies.

    I'd have to re-read all my medication leaflets (I keep a copy of each on file) to check what they all actually do/what side effects are ascribed to each one, as I have (I think) nine items on my script list now.

    I'm not really that bothered; I've never had a flu jab in my life, and tbh, I'd worry that having something of that nature that my system doesn't recognise could well send me into a flare.
    LameWolf
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    • CRANKY40
    • By CRANKY40 18th Sep 17, 4:12 PM
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    I think women are much safer with the NHS and modern obstetrics than they were in the bad old days before the NHS. Both my grandmothers were midwives, both In the days before the NHS. One worked with a doctor who had very rich patients. The other worked in a very poor neighbourhood where people couldn't afford doctors and who relied solely on my grandmother. She did her best for them but conditions were hard and the mortality rate was high.

    I do think you need to be in the right place if things go wrong,
    Originally posted by lessonlearned
    My aunty was a midwife before all the high tech scan stuff. She felt my baby and said "that head isn't coming out the normal way". The high tech scanning brigade told me I was having a tiny baby (I was very ill and allergic to the baby hence all the scans). They said he would be about 5.5 lbs. I held out for a c-section on health grounds. They eventually agreed. The house troll was 3 weeks early, 7lbs 10.5oz and his head was on the 99th centile. I am 5ft nothing and that head wouldn't have.......so on and so forth. My aunty was right, the scan stuff was wrong and as you say I would have been part of the mortality figures in days gone by.

    LW I have a lot of allergy stuff going on and I don't get along with the flu jab. Tried it twice and was so very ill both times. As I don't work at the moment and can mostly stay away from crowded places /hotbeds of infection....I'll take my chance with the flu.

    I'm still sore from my headfirst dive down the stairs. My leg is a mess of bruises and cuts but I've done something to my side. By midnight last night I'd taken one of every pain killer in the house (and some of them are fairly strong) and I still couldn't sleep. I took the house troll to school this morning then went back to bed. I do feel a bit better this evening.

    I feel like sending you all a virtual hug whether you want one or not so (hugs).
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