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    • pollyanna 26
    • By pollyanna 26 11th Sep 16, 9:56 PM
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    OS ways and Poor Health
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    • 11th Sep 16, 9:56 PM
    OS ways and Poor Health 11th Sep 16 at 9:56 PM
    Earlier today I joined a very good new thread on getting back to old style ways . I managed to take it in another direction by mentioning how ill health can impact on doing everything the old style way . As this was off topic to the original post . I will be posting on the original topic but without going off in another direction
    This seems to happen a lot of the time across the threads as many old stylers do have to cope with this problem .
    Many moons ago PREPARE AT HOME began a lengthy thread on being os with health problems and there have been a couple of other threads over the years .
    I am wondering if the time is right for another thread on the subject with the proviso it is not offering advice on medical subjects as that is for the professionals . We all do many things day to day to minimise fatigue and pain and though they are little things we have developed them to cope and others may not be aware of how helpful the little changes can be .
    I would be interested to see if others would like to join such a thread . I am not very techie as you will gather from my rambling post and have never started a thread before - I hope this posts !
    polly
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    • maddiemay
    • By maddiemay 20th Sep 16, 8:21 PM
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    maddiemay
    Hello everyone, I popped in to say hello while I was away on hols, but hate typing on tablet, so now back home and lap top at the ready.

    I have several health issues resulting in degrees of fatique and a lot of pain and stiffness in hands, legs, feet and back, thank goodness I have less really bad days than OK or quite good ones

    So many great tips on here, some I already find helpful and lots of new things to try, thank you for them all.

    With regard to Flylady, I looked at it, but there was no way, even on a good day that I would be able to get anywhere near to completing the tasks, but I had noticed several people on the diaries who picked out a few things to do regularly in order to stop the house turning into a complete tip and some of those I have nicked. I may have got the names wrong, but this is what helps me without being too overwhelmed.

    5 minute room rescue - spending 5 minutes tidying.
    Swishing the sinks and wiping the loos.
    Treasure Hunt - each time I enter a room and see something in the wrong place try to return it to it's home.
    Cleaning, laundry sorting, putting away - do 15 minute bursts, may be several in a day, may just manage one.
    Do something while the kettle boils.
    Put junk/unwanted mail straight into the recycle box.

    Sadly there are days or spells of days when little happens, but on the whole it keeps the house reasonably sanitary.

    TMD hang on in there, as others have said it is early days in respect of your diagnosis, medication, and the empty nest syndrome is flattening lots of people at the moment and you have even more reason to miss your wonderfully supportive daughter.
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    • Tink_04
    • By Tink_04 20th Sep 16, 10:26 PM
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    I've had a good day - 2 loads of washing and a bit bleach thrown around the bathroom! I made tea ( the veg was pre packed but who cares) didn't manage the dishes - had a shower but not managed to dry my hair! Little wins! Both kids at school tomorrow as littlest has been off 2 days so I'm back to work too!

    MaddieMay I do all those things - it makes such a difference, and it's amazing what you can't done while the kettle boils!

    I am still learning to forgive myself and realise I'm not perfect I have 2 kids, a job, house hold stuff to do and MS (and the rest that comes with it) sometimes you just need to give your self a break! I try to think of what I have done rather than what I haven't -

    Mini wins!
    * Shower
    * 2loads of washing
    * Proper tea
    * all with a small person bothering me all day
    * kids bathed - fed and in bed!
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    • Lynplatinum
    • By Lynplatinum 20th Sep 16, 10:28 PM
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    While the kettle boils or the Adverts are on
    Evening all

    Re getting stuff done.... when I have bad periods of pain - I make sure I do something while the ads are on (we dont actually need to be made to feel more inadequate do we!) or the kettle boils! So load some of the washing machine/take the rubbish out/ half dry up/ half wash up etc etc

    Also never leave a room or go upstairs without something that needs putting elsewhere - and teach your kids to do the same.

    Re teenagers. Every single mother in the world who looked after her own children has stood at the bottom of the stairs on a school morning screaming like a bansheee!! Anyone who says they havent is either lying or never looked after their own kids!!!

    Re teenagers and tyding up! They dont!! Floordrobes are the rule of the day. As a single Mum meself with two lads I used to shout at them to take stuff up of theirs that I could see when they went up stairs. IF I found stuff of theirs arround I literally used to throw it into their bedrooms. After a few precious things were broken and their protests met with 'Well, if you cant be bothered to look after it why should I?' they began to take care of the things that were important to them.

    Do the important bits first - the rest can wait. clean food areas. clean loos. clean clothes. the rest can wait until you have a good day/ very boring adverts.
    Well done for you today - you got kids to school; did washing; sorted food; sorted out cheap way of getting your car through its MOT Brilliant!!! AND you had the cash to hand! Fantastic!!!

    Praise yourself for what you do achieve - no one, not even me, is superwoman!! (~If you saw me you would realise that the outfit would not fit!!
    Nite all
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    • ariarnia
    • By ariarnia 21st Sep 16, 11:27 AM
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    ariarnia
    Treasure Hunt - each time I enter a room and see something in the wrong place try to return it to it's home.
    Originally posted by maddiemay
    One thing I've found helpful is to never leave a room empty handed.

    It could be cups in the lounge I put in the sink, or coats that need hanging as I walk through the hall, but there's always something in the room I'm in that needs to be in the room I'm going to or through.

    Baby steps.

    ... though I do have to confess sometimes it's taking a cup into the kitchen to make tea in it and bring it back out again - but at least it saves me dirtying a new cup and making the mess worse
    Almost everything will work again if you unplug it for a few minutes, including you. Anne Lamott
    • grunnie
    • By grunnie 21st Sep 16, 2:28 PM
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    grunnie
    Teenagers love them lots I had 3 - they grow up, leave home and you will miss them. House will be quiet and tidy. I do flylady and have done for years and it works for me. Thanks for the tip for ringpull thingie mine arrived this morning and I am enjoying a diet cola. I know they are bad for me but help to make my pills work quicker.
    We have had loads of sunny days here and what a difference the heat makes on my aches and pains.
    • grunnie
    • By grunnie 21st Sep 16, 2:35 PM
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    Also to add about teenagers mine only got to eat in the kitchen no food or drink in their rooms and also their rooms had to be kept tidy or at least look tidy before they got pocket money. I divided up my child allowance and they had to buy everything they needed with that and it taught them to budget. I handed them their clean bedding once a week ( they each had a different day) and they changed their beds and dumped the dirty bedding in the hallway for me to wash. They tidied their own rooms and hovered them for me as well.
    If their dirty clothes football or cricket kit didn't get put in the laundry basket they knew it would not get washed
    • LameWolf
    • By LameWolf 21st Sep 16, 4:24 PM
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    Lamewolf you can purchase dycem on amazon, by the roll!! how great is that?? So many other uses mentioned I think i'll buy a roll to save moving the bits I have around
    Originally posted by westcoastscot
    Yay!! Thanks for that - I have some vouchers, so I'll take a look when I'm in my right mind (as my ex-MiL used to say).
    no one, not even me, is superwoman!! (~If you saw me you would realise that the outfit would not fit!!
    Originally posted by Lynplatinum
    Oh gods, I'm going to be all evening trying to get that image out of my head!! Folks, I know Lynplatinum in RL.

    Not having a good day today - needed two doses of Oramorph before 10:00 this morning, which is not so good; no matter, hopefully be better tomorrow. Mr LW has stepped up to the plate and done a barrow-load of cleaning - sheep-onna-stick round the tops of the walls (much evicting of spiders there), cleaned the tops of the fridge freezer and the kitchen cupboards, and dusted all the flat surfaces in bedroom #2 which is actually used for storage. So well done to him. HM pizza for dins again (I tend to make it on days I have to do a loaf, as the bread machine is down from it's perch anyway).

    I hope everyone is having the best day they can today.

    TTFN
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    • monnagran
    • By monnagran 21st Sep 16, 4:51 PM
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    LW: Sorry you are not having such a good day today. Well done Mr LW on the cleaning. Obviously a man to treasure!
    I pulled out a rarely moved cupboard today and rendered a few spiders homeless. It's strange, it has made no difference at all to the look of the room but I feel incredibly smug knowing that the unseen place is grime free.

    Grunnie: You have evidently got your teenagers well trained.
    I was at a big disadvantage as I was divorced, and in those days the wife was taxed on any maintenance payment in her name so the custom was to have the children's maintenance payments put in their own names.
    My ex took the opportunity to kick me a bit more and opened bank accounts for the boys and paid them the money. He then showed them the court order that said that this was their maintenance and told them that the money belonged to them and on no account must they give it to me.
    You try telling a 12 and 14yearold that this money was to pay for food, clothes, electricity etc.
    I had no sanctions regarding money as they didn't need any from me.
    It did them no favours as when they finally left full time education this supply of free
    money stopped abruptly. They missed it!

    I had to be very imaginative where discipline was concerned.

    This is very off subject, sorry.

    x
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    Who lift us to our feet when our wings
    Have trouble remembering how to fly.
    • ariarnia
    • By ariarnia 21st Sep 16, 5:21 PM
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    ariarnia
    Today an achievement.

    I just cooked an actual balanced meal - with all three food groups.

    First time this week.

    Microwaved sweet potato cut into chunks for the sproglets, frozen white fish filets, and a bag of pre-prepared veg.

    Bland but hot and filling.

    Baby steps.
    Almost everything will work again if you unplug it for a few minutes, including you. Anne Lamott
    • katkin
    • By katkin 21st Sep 16, 5:46 PM
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    katkin
    This thread inspires and makes me so proud of all you wonderful people with poor health who get on and make the most of all things old style

    On the other hand it makes me sad to hear about so much inequality and struggle it is for too many. I've had a wee greet about some of you

    I know we're not supposed to post anything medical but I'm surprised that GPs are prescribing things like antidepressants, other psychiatric drugs and meds for very complicated situations. Why aren't people getting referrals to consultants and specialists? My meds only started to work once I'd seen a psychiatrist and nerve pain specialist. My GP is fantastic but she knows her boundaries.

    After a few years of illness and some time off work I went back full time last October then we all agreed I would try 3 days for a 6 month pilot due up the end of this oct. well I just had a pre review of the review of that and my manager thinks it's best if I stick a 3 days ongoing. I'm gutted and angry at myself for letting my condition win. I wanted to go back full time, I miss the money. My other colleague is having a year career break and they think the cost saving of this topped up by my 2 days would be able to get someone "better" and more reliable in. To say I'm annoyed would be putting it politely.

    I don't feel I'm adding much to this thread, wish I could but I'm at a funny place and once again am going to have to accelerate my old style living even more.

    Can we have an old style stick our chins in the air and all say *ugger them!

    Thank you to everyone here for your wisdom and support xxx
    • pollyanna 26
    • By pollyanna 26 21st Sep 16, 10:06 PM
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    Quick one from me .I've been trying to catch up on my neglected threads while doing urgent phone calls and catching up on paperwork .
    welcome back to Maddie May .
    Katkin The problem is the NHS is on it's uppers at the moment and sadly you do have to be very determined and explore all avenues for the correct treatment . Try not to be annoyed at yourself and imo that colleague needs to be very wary of the Disability act . That is unkind and not at all professional . I've said before this is not just hints if posters are hurting emotionally this is a safe place to get feelings and worries out x
    Well done Ariarna but be sure to get some rest .
    Monna I have only one printable word for toxic ex husbands KARMA . By the way where were Judge Judy and yourself when that sentence would have been very effective too late now . I did do the poor you one !
    LW I hope you get some rest and feel a little better tomorrow x
    Nice to see LynP . As a lurker on the mmm thread I always enjoy your posts .
    Tink Get some rest tomorrow !
    Sorry to those I've missed . I need to catch up properly as there were some good ideas in the last couple of days . Also I mean to mention what helps me with hair washing . So will aim to get back on tomorrow when I am less tired .
    I wish a peaceful night to you all
    polly x
    • monnagran
    • By monnagran 21st Sep 16, 10:45 PM
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    Katkin: over on the fence thread we have a saying. It was originally, " Chin up. Tits Out."
    But my very respectable tablet wouldn't let me write 'tits'. So ever since it has been,
    "Chin up. Titus Out."
    Try it petal, it will give you a grin if nothing else.

    Pollyanna: Don't you worry. Karma had him in its sights. He got his comeuppance, big time.

    Hope everyone has at least some restful sleep tonight.
    Tomorrow we will all wake up refreshed and, (all together now).........

    CHIN UP. TITUS OUT.

    x
    I believe that friends are quiet angels
    Who lift us to our feet when our wings
    Have trouble remembering how to fly.
    • katkin
    • By katkin 21st Sep 16, 11:21 PM
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    I have a 34-36 G cup so they'll stick far out more than my chin - cood advice ladies

    Need my confidence back I'm managing at home, just but not so well elsewhere...something I need to work on - bust forward I go!!! X
    • monnagran
    • By monnagran 22nd Sep 16, 9:21 AM
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    Well done katkin. At least you have something to work with.
    If ever your confidence flags just call up a mental image of all your virtual friends marching along beside you, all trying to make sure that their Titus are leading the way. In my case it's a toss-up whether it will be Titus or tummy that leads the way.

    TMD, thinking of you and hope you are coping. Keep going flower.

    x
    I believe that friends are quiet angels
    Who lift us to our feet when our wings
    Have trouble remembering how to fly.
    • ariarnia
    • By ariarnia 22nd Sep 16, 9:28 AM
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    In my case it's a toss-up whether it will be Titus or tummy that leads the way.
    Originally posted by monnagran
    There was an advert - two adverts really.

    Hug in a mug for the cup-a-soup - I really, really wanted one of those hug pillows whenever that ad was on.

    And then the 'belly's gonna get ya' ad - I think it was a brand of trainers.

    Not sure why your post made me think of the soup one, but I chant the belly thing at jellybean while we're running round sometimes.

    He turned around and poked the MILs stomach shouting belly while we were visiting the park other day - Thankfully she laughed
    Almost everything will work again if you unplug it for a few minutes, including you. Anne Lamott
    • Anoneemoose
    • By Anoneemoose 22nd Sep 16, 11:31 AM
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    Hi everyone.

    I am just in the process of reading the whole thread, but wanted to say Hi. I have ME/CFS and Fibromyalgia and I struggle a lot. I used to (and still do really) go through phases where I feel so guilty about everything. As in hardly being able to cook, struggling to clean etc etc. I have had to give up work as I found it too hard.

    I wanted to say, I use the ecloths that were mentioned at the beginning of the thread. And I love them. They really are good at cleaning and all with water, which is great. The mop system is fab too. I really struggle with smells so the water side of things is a bonus. I also use method kitchen spray as it is plant based and smells lovely, without being artificial. Aldi have also started doing their own eco friendly cleaning stuff, which I bought some of..just waiting to try it though as my method stuff hasn't run out yet.

    I was wondering if anyone has ever used those food saver bags that are supposed to prolong the life of fruit and veg and if so, were they any good? I have been looking at some cheap ones on Amazon which get good reviews, but I am never sure you can trust them!
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 22nd Sep 16, 11:37 AM
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    The Lakeland green food saver bags are amazing, really work and are reuseable after a wash and dry. I've had two packs in all the time they've been making them. They do wear eventually but they are tough and last for an incredibly long time.
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    • grunnie
    • By grunnie 22nd Sep 16, 11:37 AM
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    I use the food saver bags - the ones for bread and veg are good but the ones for cheese are brilliant. They keep the cheese in the fridge from going mouldy. I buy all mine in the 1 shop.
    • Anoneemoose
    • By Anoneemoose 22nd Sep 16, 11:42 AM
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    The Lakeland green food saver bags are amazing, really work and are reuseable after a wash and dry. I've had two packs in all the time they've been making them. They do wear eventually but they are tough and last for an incredibly long time.
    Originally posted by MrsLurcherwalker
    I use the food saver bags - the ones for bread and veg are good but the ones for cheese are brilliant. They keep the cheese in the fridge from going mouldy. I buy all mine in the 1 shop.
    Originally posted by grunnie
    Thank you both. MrsLW - can the Lakeland ones be used for anything or do they have specific ones for different things, do you know?

    Grunnie - is it a particular 1 shop, or do they all do them?
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 22nd Sep 16, 11:48 AM
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    I've never really tried to use them for anything else other than fruit and veg, I know they work because they have some sort of clay powder incorporated into the plastic material of the bag and this absorbs gasses given off from the fresh produce and stops them ripening. Have a look on the Lakeland website and that will tell you if they have a specific for cheese etc.
    Go forward with the vision even if no one else can see it!

    Some people use words to reflect who they want to be, but actions ALWAYS show who they really are!
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