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    • Timeliegh
    • By Timeliegh 8th Sep 16, 2:37 PM
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    Timeliegh
    Tower road, Newquay, Again..
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    • 8th Sep 16, 2:37 PM
    Tower road, Newquay, Again.. 8th Sep 16 at 2:37 PM
    Hi All -

    Just a quick one - hoping for an some experienced advice on whether or not its worth me pursuing a popla appeal.

    So holiday in Cornwall = visited the tower road car park 3 times - two of which resulted in a fine.

    I paid for the 8am - 6pm
    I arrived at 11am on both occasions and left at 7, and thought that if I paid for the 8am to 6pm that would give me the equivalent in hours - in hindsight this was naive and stupid but that's all I have.
    I'm not one for enjoying fines, so please believe me when I say I really did think the 8 - 6 would give me the equivalent hours.
    In Newcastle - parking tariffs leave nothing to the imagination - it just seems they have left theirs open to interpretation so - people fall into this trap - or I could just be me lol.

    So I have already appealed to PE with a template from here, And now I'm at the point where I either need to pay the the reduce fine or appeal further.
    If its pointless me appealing to POPLA I would rather pay the reduced fine and be done with it. But if you think I could appeal successfully I would go all the way.

    Thanks for your time, and I would appreciate any feedback.

    Thanks

    Tim
    Last edited by Timeliegh; 08-09-2016 at 3:06 PM.
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    • Timeliegh
    • By Timeliegh 22nd Sep 16, 2:52 PM
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    Lol my draft no is too long to post - I've made all the amendments and added a final point regarding the planning permission?

    Is it time to submit my POPLA appeal now
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 22nd Sep 16, 3:15 PM
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    OK save it as a PDF and put it under 'OTHER' making sure it uploads & shows as a little 'bin' icon. Don't answer questions in any other POPLA boxes.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Timeliegh
    • By Timeliegh 23rd Sep 16, 3:33 PM
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    Awesome will do.

    Just for interest I received this of the cornwall council planning dept

    Hi Mr Leigh,

    Thanks for your e-mail below, I can’t locate anything within our system for this. If it was something you wanted enforcement to investigate you would need to fill in their enforcement form, I will attach a link to the website below:

    http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/environment-and-planning/planning/enforcement/

    Regards,

    Emma
    • Timeliegh
    • By Timeliegh 28th Sep 16, 2:37 PM
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    Just for reference regarding planning permission for signage and cameras...

    An email I recieved back from Cornwall councli

    Dear Mr Leigh

    Thank you for your email of the 22 September 2016 to Cornwall Council regarding the car park in Tower Road, Newquay.

    I have contacted our Parking Services Team who have confirmed that the car park in Tower Road is privately owned and therefore any outstanding parking fines and/or appeals would need to be taken up with the private company – Parking Eye.

    Planning permission is not required for the installation of ANPR cameras and signage within a car park is usually there to display charges and conditions of motorists parking within the car park and is not usually subject to planning permission. However the link below to the Planning Portal provides further information about adverts and signs and if you believe the signs to be a breach of planning this can be reported to our Enforcement Team to investigate.

    https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/4/adverts_and_signs

    http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/environment-and-planning/planning/enforcement/

    As the car park is privately owned and not run by Cornwall Council we are unable to investigate your complaint and you may wish to contact the British Parking Association.

    Kind Regards

    Emma Milnes
    Feedback & Principal Development Support Officer
    Customer Relations Office
    Economy, Enterprise and Environment.
    • Castle
    • By Castle 28th Sep 16, 6:41 PM
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    Castle
    The signs need Advertising Consent under "The Town and Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) (England) Regulations 2007"
    • Ivor Pecheque
    • By Ivor Pecheque 28th Sep 16, 10:21 PM
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    The council are fudging the issue.
    Illegitimi non carborundum
    • Timeliegh
    • By Timeliegh 17th Oct 16, 4:31 PM
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    Just like to thank all the awesome people on here for helping me out

    Parking Eye do not wish to contest either of my two appeals.

    NFA

    I'm so happy right now.

    Thank you all
    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 17th Oct 16, 4:35 PM
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    Just like to thank all the awesome people on here for helping me out

    Parking Eye do not wish to contest either of my two appeals.

    NFA

    I'm so happy right now.

    Thank you all
    Originally posted by Timeliegh
    Nice one!

    Or perhaps that should be 'Nice two'.
    NEWBIES - wise up - DO NOT IGNORE A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE - you have been warned!

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Please note: I am NOT involved in any 'paid for' appeals service.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 18th Oct 16, 12:35 AM
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    Coupon-mad
    Just like to thank all the awesome people on here for helping me out

    Parking Eye do not wish to contest either of my two appeals.

    NFA

    I'm so happy right now.

    Thank you all
    Originally posted by Timeliegh
    Love it! They really do not like War and Peace Appeals - although it is perfectly possible that they did have records of the broken machines and finally gave up when they realised you weren't paying them.

    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the breadcrumb trail, top of page: Household & Travel > Motoring > Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking & READ THE 'NEWBIES' FAQS THREAD.
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

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