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    • aleks1244
    • By aleks1244 6th Sep 16, 8:15 PM
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    Parking ticket in own bay No Permit - appeal rejected
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    • 6th Sep 16, 8:15 PM
    Parking ticket in own bay No Permit - appeal rejected 6th Sep 16 at 8:15 PM
    Hello,

    I rent a flat in a 2012 built estate, and I have a parking space with the flat, and a valid permit however one day when leaving early in the morning to work I have found a pcn behinde the wipers, I was leaving at 7am and the pcn was from 06.19am on the 03/09/16. The reason for the sign is because I have not clearly displayed my permit. Usually the permit is stuck to the window, however I had my windscreen replaced about a month ago and I had it loose on the dashboard, I think it dropped because of the wind as i closed the door the day before and then i closed the windows with my key. It dropped on the gears if you look closely on the picture you can see the corner of the permit.

    I have lived in the estate for 11 months now and never had any problems with pcns, I have sent back a letter saying i have a contract , and a valid permit, explained to them what happened however they have rejected my appeal stating -

    thank you for your correspondence regarding the above pcn, i have considered your case carefully and have decided to reject your appeal on the following grounds -

    You parked in a manner whereby you agreed to pay a charge, the parking attendant recorded that the vehicle was parked without a valid permit.

    parking control are contracted to manage the parking within this area and the parking charge notice has been issued in accordance with this parking management scheme. the signage is in the area and it is clear and inform motorist of the restrictions the parking is managed under that enforcement action will be taken for parking in this manner.

    The restrictions require that a valid permit is displayed at all times where that is a pcm resident permit visitors or contractors. it is not disputed that you hold a valid permit, however if this is not displayed in the vehicle the operative is unable to determine whether they are permited to park here, it is the drivers responsibility to ensure the permit is visible and secure prior to leaving the vehicle unattended , as no permit was displayed in the car it was therefore liable to enforcement action.

    -----------------------------------------

    When you leave my estate you have a main estate road, and two cars were parked there over night and it does state that you are not allowed to park there aswell, i have taken pictures as evidence why do i get a fine in my own bay if there is no bays on the main road, if i knew i would have left it on the main road. Im sure he passed the vehicles why did he not pc them?


    is there anything i can do?

    please help as im lost now, it was a one off i have never received any type of fine before so im angry it was for parking in my own estate.

    the comapny is called parking controll managment uk ltd

    the also are with dmuk and ipc
    Last edited by aleks1244; 16-10-2016 at 11:15 AM. Reason: mistake !
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    • Parking-Prankster
    • By Parking-Prankster 16th Oct 16, 10:40 AM
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    They are members of the CSA and so holdable to account there. If they start telling fibs you can complain to the CSA
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    • aleks1244
    • By aleks1244 16th Oct 16, 10:57 AM
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    hahaha thanks for all the info!

    I will wait and see what happens
    • Asha17
    • By Asha17 9th Dec 16, 11:01 PM
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    Secure Space ltd
    Hi guys ,

    Reading all these posts I decided to write my comment.
    I got ticket from this company and when appealed with proof of address,copy of permit which I have for past 8 years living under this address they refused to cancel their penalty chargE. ( the reason was that I didn't display on that day as my car was in garage and forgot to put it back. In 8 years this one time all here we go. Whatever proof I would send ,they wouldn't accept my apeal.
    Therefore I started to research and found this .please please give me some advice . Thank u in advance !
    • greatgimpo
    • By greatgimpo 9th Dec 16, 11:09 PM
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    Start a new thread and go from there, it's confusing hijacking an old one.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 9th Dec 16, 11:12 PM
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    Hi guys ,

    Reading all these posts I decided to write my comment.
    I got ticket from this company and when appealed with proof of address,copy of permit which I have for past 8 years living under this address they refused to cancel their penalty chargE. ( the reason was that I didn't display on that day as my car was in garage and forgot to put it back. In 8 years this one time all here we go. Whatever proof I would send ,they wouldn't accept my apeal.
    Therefore I started to research and found this .please please give me some advice . Thank u in advance !
    Originally posted by Asha17
    See my signature for where to click at the top of this page, and the thread to read first.

    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the trail, top of this page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • aleks1244
    • By aleks1244 8th Jan 17, 8:02 PM
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    Hello , as you said im back with a letter from these BIT~^$3 - gladstones solicitors this is a second letter from this company, i cannot paste the text from the first one as a little piece has been torn off but i will paste everything from the second one called "final reminder",

    Re- Our client = parking control management uk limited
    amount due - 160.00
    Reg - ..

    We have previously written to you requesting settlement of a parking charge. As you will already know, due to the absence of payment or a valid appeal against the charge , we are instructed to recover the total amount due to our client as shown above.

    As you have not either made payment or contacted us in respect of the charge, we may now be instructed to issue legal proceedings against you in the county court. To prevent such action, we invite you to make payment immediately or contact us confirming your proposals in respect of this debt.

    in orded to avoid any further action you should pay the full amount outstanding within 7 days of this letter. You can make payment online at www.gscollections.com, or by calling.

    please note -- the additional costs associated with issuing a claim and the subsequent potential enforcement action could be as follows - these fiuguers are for illustration purpose only and would only apply in the event of judgement being obtained and subsequently enforced.)

    claim issue fee - £25
    solicitors costs for issue of claim £50
    judgment cists - £25
    warrant issue - £100
    solicitors costs for issue of warrant £2.50
    total additional costs £202

    it is important that you understand that if a judgment is registered against you then this could seriously affect your chances of obtaining credit in the future as the information can be made available to any interested parties via register of judgments, orders fines and will remIN THERE FOR 6 years,

    if you are unsure about anything contained within this letter you should seek advice from a solicitor or contact one of the following organisations who may help you - national debt line bla bla

    your sincerly gladstones

    WHAT SHOULD I DO???

    SO WHAT DO THEY MEAN £202.25+ £160?

    WILL IT DO ANYTHINg TO MY CREDIT RATINg WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW

    HELP PLEASE

    THANKS
    • Half_way
    • By Half_way 8th Jan 17, 8:54 PM
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    WHAT SHOULD I DO???

    SO WHAT DO THEY MEAN £202.25+ £160?

    WILL IT DO ANYTHINg TO MY CREDIT RATINg WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW

    HELP PLEASE

    THANKS
    Turn off your Caps lock, and stop panicking, and go and make a cup of tea.

    Right, now you have your cuppa read back through this thread, have you contacted the management company and told them that they must cancel this charge, have you told them that they are jointly and severely liable for the actions of their agents ( the parking company) and that they may be liable for any costs that you incur as a result of this parking charge ( including your time at upto £19/hour)
    Have you also informed the manage company that they may also be liable for a breach of the data protection act ( as a result of the actions of their agents) and this could be a sum of around £450

    Oh, and if you havent guessed, they can not hurt your credit rating, but you have more than enough ammunition to fire back at the parking company and the management company that took them on.

    Stop worrying, stop panicking and fight back
    the £202.25+£160 is meaningless

    There is also scope to get in touch with Gladstones and tell them that your data has been obtained without good cause by the parking company ( plus give the reasons why) and that you are making a formal demand under section 10 of the data protection act for Gladstones to stop processing your data with immediate effect, failure to do so may result in the matter being reported to the ICO, as well as a ( separate/additional ) claim under the Data protection act for ( at least)£250
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
    • The Deep
    • By The Deep 8th Jan 17, 9:16 PM
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    Some reading for you


    http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?377246-UKPC-liable-for-trespass-**SUCCESS**

    https://bmpa.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/213077149-Milton-Keynes-woman-secures-landmark-victory-for-flat-tenants-in-parking-dispute

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/residential-parking.html

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/ukpc-hit-for-352-for-discontinuing.html

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/tenancy-agreement-not-overruled-by.html

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/link-parking-lose-in-wrexham-flat-owner_2.html

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/smart-parking-settle-out-of-court-for.html

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/tenancy-agreement-not-overruled-by.html
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 8th Jan 17, 10:42 PM
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    aleks1244, I agree with the others, please calm down.

    Yes Gladstones might well start a claim.

    But no, that does not affect your credit rating, not even of you lose, unless you ignored court papers or refused to pay up right at the end if you lost at a hearing. Not going to happen, is it? Even Gladstones admitted that, but you are panicked so you didn't notice they were merely talking about a case where someone does not defend/refuses to pay after a Judge tells them to:
    ''these figures are for illustration purpose only and would only apply in the event of judgement being obtained and subsequently enforced.''


    What might happen is a claim and we will help you with a defence to a court claim. I can't recall any MSE-assisted ones being lost in the whole of 2016 v Gladstones. We know what we are doing.

    DO NOT PHONE THEM.

    DO NOT PAY.

    As for this letter, search this forum for: 'Gladstones LBCCC' and copy and adapt a response that someone has done before, recently in late 2016. Read more than one result of your search, decide what your response will be and show us first. When Redx says: 'get in touch with Gladstones' he means in writing.
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 08-01-2017 at 11:41 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the trail, top of this page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • aleks1244
    • By aleks1244 8th Jan 17, 11:31 PM
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    what happens if i dont reply to Gladstones , im now late with response does it make a difference if i reply? can i still reply even thouGh im late already?
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 8th Jan 17, 11:40 PM
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    Yes reply anyway (even late) as it looks better at your hearing later, if you do not ignore a LBCCC. This is all covered in other threads about replying to a Gladstones LBCCC, easily searched for. Everyone asks the same questions.

    Relax. We know what we are doing. Yes it sounds scary. But we will assist with defence wording.

    So, do the search.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the trail, top of this page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • aleks1244
    • By aleks1244 9th Jan 17, 12:22 AM
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    This is what i have found - this was all copied and pasted

    ____________________

    1) It is admitted that the Defendant is the registered keeper of the vehicle in question.

    2) The Particulars of the Claim submitted to the Defendant provide no statement to the nature of the claim and the Defendant does not believe these particulars to be compliant with Civil Procedure Rules 16.4 nor Practice Direction 16 7.3-7.5 inhibiting the ability of the Defendant to provide a comprehensive and conclusive defence.

    3) The Defendant has prepared the defence on the presumption that the alleged parking contravention is in reference to an occasion whereby the Defendant’s vehicle was parked in an allocated leasehold residential parking space at the home address of the Defendant.

    4) The Defendant denies that the Claimant has the authority to bring a claim. The Claimant does not own the land where the vehicle was parked, nor does he have any interest in the land. He therefore lacks the capacity to offer parking.

    a) The Claimant has failed to provide strict proof of a chain of contracts leading from the landowner to the Claimant which show that they have a right to unilaterally remove or interfere with the overriding rights conferred in the Lease.

    b) Alternatively, even if a contract could be established, the provision requiring payment of £139.00 is an unenforceable penalty clause and an unfair term contrary to the Consumer Rights Act 2015.

    5) The Defendant believes that his personal details have been obtained unlawfully by the Claimant and asks that the Court does not to assist the Claimant to benefit from a wrongdoing. (Ex turpi causa non oritur action).

    6) The Defendant has no liability as they are the keeper of the vehicle and the Claimant has failed to comply with the strict provisions of POFA 2012 to hold anyone other than the driver liable for the charges.

    a) The driver has not been evidenced on any occasion.

    b) There is no presumption in law that the keeper was the driver and nor is the keeper obliged to name the driver to a private parking firm. This was confirmed in the POPLA Annual Report 2015 by the POPLA Lead Adjudicator and the barrister, Henry Gleenslade, when explaining the POFA 2012 principles of ‘keeper liability’ as set out in Schedule 4.

    7) The Particulars of Claim do not give any reasons why the Claimant requires a payment other than it results from the ‘Parking Rules’ on the signage. It is a forbidding sign that cannot create a contract. In the cases of B4GF26K6 PCM (UK) v Mr B, B4GF27K3 PCM (UK) v Mr W and B4GF26K2 PCM (UK) v Ms L it was demonstrated that forbidding signage at residential parking spaces did not create a contract.

    8) The presence of the Claimant on the land will have supposedly been to prevent parking by uninvited persons, for the benefit of the actual leaseholders and their invited guests. Instead a predatory operation has been carried out on those very people whose interests the Claimant was purportedly there to uphold.

    a) The vehicle was parked on land in accordance with the terms of the Lease.

    9) In the case of Saeed v Plustrade Limited [2001] EWCA Civ 2011 parking restrictions and a change which caused detriment to tenants and their visitors were held to be in breach of the well-known and well established principle that ‘a grantor shall not derogate from his grant’

    10) This case can be distinguished from ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67 (the Beavis case) which was dependent upon an undenied contract, formed by unusually prominent signage forming a clear offer and which turned on unique facts regarding the location and interests of the landowner. Strict compliance with the BPA(CoP) was paramount and Mr Beavis was the driver who saw the signs and entered into a contract to pay £85 after exceeding a licence to park free. None of this applies in this material case.

    a) In Beavis it was held that the purpose of a parking charge must not be to penalise drivers. Justification must depend on some other ‘legitimate interest in performance extending beyond the prospect of pecuniary compensation flowing directly from the breach in question’. The true test was held to be ‘whether the impugned provision is a secondary obligation which imposes detriment on the contract-breaker out of all proportion to any legitimate interest […..] in enforcement of the primary obligation’

    b) There can be no ‘legitimate interest’ in penalising residents or their visitors for using parking spaces, under the excuse of a scheme where ostensibly and as far as the landowner is concerned, the parking firm is contracted for the benefit of the residents. It is unconscionable, contrary to the requirement of good faith and ‘out of all proportion to any legitimate interest’ to fine residents or their visitors for using allocated parking spaces.

    11) The exact question regarding terms in a lease was tested recently at Oxford County Court, JOPSON v HOME GUARD SERVICES, Appeal case number B9GF0A9E on 29/9/2016. I will include the transcript of that case at any hearing.

    a) The Jopson Appeal case is a persuasive Appeal decision, where Senior Circuit Judge Charles Harris QC found that Home Guard Services had acted unreasonably when issuing a penalty charge notice to Miss Jopson, a resident of a block of flats.

    12) The Defendant also relies upon the Croydon Court decision in Pace Recovery and Storage v Mr N C6GF14FO 16/9/2016, where District Judge Coonan dismissed the claim and refused leave to appeal, having found that a third party parking firm cannot unilaterally alter the terms of the tenancy agreement.

    13) The Defendant disputes that the Claimant has incurred solicitors costs of £50 to prepare the claim. The Defendant refers the Court to the incompetent Particulars of Claim that disclose neither the basis for the claim nor a definite cause of action.

    14) The Claimant’s solicitors are known to be a serial issuer of generic claims similar to this one, with no due diligence, no scrutiny of details nor even checking for a true cause of action. HMCS have identified over 1000 similar poorly produced claims and the solicitor's conduct in many of these cases is believed to be currently the subject of an active investigation by the SRA.

    15) I believe the term for such conduct is ‘robo-claims’ which is against the public interest, demonstrates a disregard for the dignity of the court and is unfair on unrepresented consumers. I have reason to believe that this is a claim that will proceed without any facts or evidence supplied until the last possible minute, to my significant detriment as an unrepresented Defendant.

    16) I suggest that parking companies using the small claims track as a form of aggressive, automated debt collection is not something the courts should be seen to support.

    17) It is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this claim. The proper Claimant (if any debt exists, which is denied) would be the landowner.

    18) I request the court strike out this claim for the reasons stated above, and for similar reasons cited by District Judge Cross of St Albans County Court on 20/09/16 where a similar claim was struck out without a hearing, due to Gladstones' template particulars for a private parking firm being 'incoherent', failing to comply with CPR16.4, and ''providing no facts that could give rise to any apparent claim in law''.

    I believe the facts stated in this Defence Statement are true.

    ---

    is this what i need to do? is this the reply to Gladstone solicitors or to the county court if there is a claim?

    im lost im very Green when it comes to writinG
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 9th Jan 17, 12:24 AM
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    That's a defence. You don't need a defence yet if you only have a LBCCC. It is not at court papers stage yet, is it?

    You are rushing this, most people would take a good 24/48 hours to read other LBCCC threads, not read one and copy the wrong thing within 20 minutes. When you get to defence stage you can't just copy one verbatim. It has to suit your case, but you are not there yet.

    You are at LBCCC response stage. Search again in the morning and look for simple but assertive responses.
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 09-01-2017 at 2:41 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the trail, top of this page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • aleks1244
    • By aleks1244 9th Jan 17, 9:43 AM
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    Dear Sir

    Ref : xxx

    I have received your Letter Before County Court Claim dated XXth XXXXXXX 2016.

    I deny any debt to Parking Control Management (UK) Ltd

    The tenancy agreement gives Mr [A. redacted] the right to park on the estate and it does not say “on condition that you display a permit”, breach of Quiet enjoyment.

    Please tell me who owns the car park as I wish to send them a copy of this letter.

    You cannot presume that I possess all the documents referred to in your letter. Please send me copies of all the documents sent by the client including the windscreen notice if one was attached to the vehicle.

    Contractual Authority (as required by BPA Ltd AOS CoP B.7)
    Please provide me with a copy of the contract between your company and the landowner/landholder that provides the necessary contractual written authority for the issue and enforcement of your Parking Charge Notice - Notice to keeper. When these are supplied, please also confirm whether the intended action is founded on a contractual charge, a breach of a contract or trespass.

    When I receive the documents and your explanations I will be in a position to make a more detailed response
    It would be unreasonable to proceed with litigation before you have clarified your client's cause of action.

    I look forward to your response

    Yours Faithfully

    Mr A Ros


    is this ok, for the first letter? is this something i should send by post or can it be by email??
    • aleks1244
    • By aleks1244 9th Jan 17, 2:37 PM
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    please confirm asap if yes i will send off now

    thanks
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 9th Jan 17, 2:50 PM
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    I would add more (and it is traditional to address solicitors 'Dear Sirs'):






    Dear Sirs,

    Ref : xxx

    I have received your Letter Before County Court Claim dated XXth XXXXXXX 2016.

    I deny any debt to Parking Control Management (UK) Ltd. The tenancy agreement gives Mr [A. redacted] the grants an unequivocal right to park on the estate and it does not say “on condition that you display a permit”, breach of Quiet enjoyment.

    Car Parking is covered in several places in my Assured Shorthold Tenancy and this grants me primacy of contract. The AST allows residents of my flat and visitors:

    ''To park private vehicle(s) only at the Property.
    To park in the space, garage or driveway allocated to the Property, if applicable.''


    The only obligations are:
    ''To keep any garage, driveway, or parking space free of oil and to pay for the removal and cleaning of any spillage caused by a vehicle of the Tenant, his family, contractors or visitors.

    Not to park any vehicle at the Property which is not in road worthy condition and fully taxed.

    Not to store or keep on the Premises or any communal car park any boat, caravan or commercial vehicle without the prior written consent of the Landlord or his agent.''


    Please tell me who owns the car park as I wish to send them a copy of this letter and I will in due course, include them in any claim I decide to make for misuse of my data under the DPA. Data was obtained from the DVLA under false pretences by a parking firm who do not have primacy of contract and were in fact trespassing in my bay.

    You cannot presume that I possess all the documents referred to in your letter. Please send me copies of all the documents sent by the client including the windscreen notice if one was attached to the vehicle.

    Contractual Authority (as required by BPA Ltd AOS CoP B.7)
    Please provide me with a copy of the contract between your company and the landowner/landholder that provides the necessary contractual written authority for the issue and enforcement of your Parking Charge Notice - Notice to keeper. When these are supplied, please also confirm whether the intended action is founded on a contractual charge, a breach of a contract or trespass.


    When I receive the documents and your explanations I will be in a position to make a more detailed response. It would be unreasonable to proceed with litigation before you have clarified your client's cause of action and what steps they took (if any) to check residents' rights of way and rights to park under their leases, before enforcing in bays and trespassing. Kindly instruct your client to cease and desist, since I am in a position to sue them as jointly and severally liable, together with the landowner (their client), for data misuse by obtaining my personal DVLA data without reasonable cause, regarding a location where tenants have pre-existing rights to park which cannot be varied by a third party parking firm by putting a few signs up.

    I look forward to your response.

    Yours Faithfully

    Mr xxxxxx
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 09-01-2017 at 7:50 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN in England/Wales? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT

    Click on the trail, top of this page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    DON'T read old advice to ignore, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • aleks1244
    • By aleks1244 9th Jan 17, 3:56 PM
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    Thank you so much for your help, im 22 and after reading this i would have never come close to what you have written for me!

    i will change the colour, remove what you have crossed out for me and send it off, should i do it by email which i found on there website? enquiries@gladstonessolicitors.co.uk ??
    Last edited by aleks1244; 09-01-2017 at 4:37 PM.
    • aleks1244
    • By aleks1244 9th Jan 17, 5:02 PM
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    or is it better to send by post?
    • catfunt
    • By catfunt 9th Jan 17, 5:54 PM
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    Personally, I'd send it by post and get a free proof of posting from the Post Office (Don't use recorded).

    Wait for comment from others though.
    Got a Private Parking Notice??
    ** Do Not Pay
    ** Do Not Ignore a Notice to Keeper (except Scotland)
    ** Do not mention who was driving (No "Me" Myself" "I")
    ** Never, ever phone a Private Parking Company
    ** Please read the NEWBIES thread at the top of the forum
    • aleks1244
    • By aleks1244 9th Jan 17, 6:53 PM
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    thanks for reply if you think so i will wait and see what other say
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