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    • WantToBeSE
    • By WantToBeSE 4th Sep 16, 7:27 PM
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    Couch to 5K support thread.
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    • 4th Sep 16, 7:27 PM
    Couch to 5K support thread. 4th Sep 16 at 7:27 PM
    I have looked for a similar thread, but they are all over 1 year old, and dead. So i thought I'd start a new one!


    I am on a mission to get healthier and fitter.
    In 2010 i gave up smoking, and in Feb 2016 i gave up drinking alcohol. I feel like fitness is my last 'thing'.
    I hate exercise, and am incredibly unfit. I could do with losing 10lbs too.

    I am about to start the Couch to 5K programme, does anyone else want to join me? Or has anyone else just started/completed/have experience of doing this?
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    • WantToBeSE
    • By WantToBeSE 5th Oct 16, 8:59 AM
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    I am attempting week 3 day 1 this afternoon. I'm a little nervous about it, but am going to just try it.
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    • Wild_Rover
    • By Wild_Rover 5th Oct 16, 11:09 AM
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    I am attempting week 3 day 1 this afternoon. I'm a little nervous about it, but am going to just try it.
    Originally posted by WantToBeSE
    Please let us know how it goes.... I'm due to start week 3 on Sunday (week 2, run 3 is tomorrow) and I know that it will get harder.

    Question for the folk who are doing this programme..... do you find that it has changed your outlook on exercise generally? e.g. a couple of hours after my run yesterday, I needed to nip out to the shops. A few weeks ago I would have jumped in the car, but instead I walked. It was about 20 mins each way. Do others find they do things like that now as a matter of course?

    WR
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    • MallyGirl
    • By MallyGirl 5th Oct 16, 12:10 PM
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    I have found that wearing a step counter has had this effect. I aim for the 10k steps a day and try and walk instead of drive where there is an option if I am massively short on the day
    • Wild_Rover
    • By Wild_Rover 6th Oct 16, 1:09 PM
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    Week 2 run 3 completed. Oddly I found it slightly harder than run 2! I think the post run recovery period was shorter so presumably that's a good thing.

    Week 3, run 1 will be on Sunday, so I'll post after that.

    All the best to everyone!

    WR
    I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence. D McLeod
    Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my kids, who had to drown His own? RG. Ingersol
    I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. D Adams
    • Wild_Rover
    • By Wild_Rover 6th Oct 16, 1:19 PM
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    Quick question for those more experienced users of the couch to 5k programme, if I may..... some advice by the blessed Laura is contradicted on the website.

    In the podcast for week 2, she says that the heel should hit the ground first. In the website in the section "tips for new runners", it says (my bold/italics)-

    "Good running technique will help make your runs feel less tiring, reduce your risk of injury and, ultimately, be more enjoyable.

    Avoid striking the ground with your heel or your forefoot first. Landing on the middle of your foot is the safest way to land for most recreational runners. Your foot should land below your hips – not right in front of you."

    Any views folks?

    WR
    I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence. D McLeod
    Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my kids, who had to drown His own? RG. Ingersol
    I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. D Adams
    • indesisiv
    • By indesisiv 6th Oct 16, 1:37 PM
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    Quick question for those more experienced users of the couch to 5k programme, if I may..... some advice by the blessed Laura is contradicted on the website.

    In the podcast for week 2, she says that the heel should hit the ground first. In the website in the section "tips for new runners", it says (my bold/italics)-

    "Good running technique will help make your runs feel less tiring, reduce your risk of injury and, ultimately, be more enjoyable.

    Avoid striking the ground with your heel or your forefoot first. Landing on the middle of your foot is the safest way to land for most recreational runners. Your foot should land below your hips – not right in front of you."

    Any views folks?

    WR
    Originally posted by Wild_Rover
    I think that its hard to simplistically state this. The last sentence that you have there "Your foot should land below your hips" is the important bit.

    Its not so much how your foot is striking but where. Naturally if you overstride you will be heel landing. So if you sort out your form and landing zone then impact will be better.

    I when cruising along I naturally heel strike, but I don't worry as it is directly below me so its not an overstretching jarring impact. The forces then pivots round the outside of the foot. When speeding up my foot strike moves forward so I am not heel striking. My cadence speeds up to around 200-211 allowing this to happen. Normal gentle running I run between 160-180 steps per min.

    Interestingly I was out running on Sunday with my mate who is naturally a front foot striker, I tried emulating this for a bit of the run and just couldn't get on with it. But it suits him.

    Basically concentrate on good form and let the landing sort itself out, unless it is feeling obviously wrong.
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    • iammumtoone
    • By iammumtoone 6th Oct 16, 8:02 PM
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    week 4 run 1 done.

    It was hard I can't believe that in only 3 weeks I will be expected to run for 25 minutes, but having said that when I started I wouldn't believe I could run for 5 minutes in only 3 weeks either. I could hardy even manage to walk for the 5 mins cool down my legs hurt so much I couldn't lift them off the ground.
    • iammumtoone
    • By iammumtoone 6th Oct 16, 8:17 PM
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    WR

    I remember reading in my book about running style, it said you are best off just running how you feel comfortable the theory being if you try to change your natural style, you are doing what is unnatural for you which could lead to injury. It made sense to me my natural style seems to be a shuffle so thats what I am sticking with
    • Elfbert
    • By Elfbert 6th Oct 16, 9:25 PM
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    Week 2 run 3 completed. Oddly I found it slightly harder than run 2!
    WR
    Originally posted by Wild_Rover
    The single biggest factor in whether I have a 'good' run or not is how much water I've drunk during the day. If I just cruise through work drinking tea and coffee, I have a bad run. If I drink a few litres of water along with my tea and coffee I usually have a good run!

    Your blood literally thickens if you're dehydrated even a bit, making it harder to pump around and 'starving' your muscles of oxygen etc. so it really is important (which I know, but I still forget to drink enough ) .

    I'm on the mend from a horrible virus/mild flu type thing, but still not running yet, just walking. I haven't got any puff for running (been coughing a lung up just on my cycle to work.) Next week I'll be back on it though. I have been missing my runs!

    Good luck everyone moving up a week! We shall all plod ever onward.
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    • WantToBeSE
    • By WantToBeSE 7th Oct 16, 4:40 PM
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    Hi guys!

    Well, week 3 day 1 completed!

    It was not as hard as i expected! I thought that maybe i would die or something But actually the 3 minutes walking inbetween really helped!
    I am not sure if i found it easier because i did it later on in the day, and had eaten?
    Normally i do it first thing in the morning, before having had breakfast. This time i did it about 4pm, and had eaten breakfast and lunch.

    If that is the reason, i'll do it later on in the day everytime, as i did find it much easier than previous runs!
    Who knows, maybe the other runs won't be the same and I'll be eating my words!

    WR- sorry for not replying to your inbox message, for some reason i cant reply?

    Iammumtoone- well done for week 4! Wow, i bet that was hard...i cant imagine running for 5 mins non-stop!

    Elfbert- i agree about the hydration issue you raise. I notice how much i drink has a massive impact on how quickly i get tired out. Its not so much that my legs hurt, just that i cant keep going if i am not properly hydrated!

    Who went out running today?
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    • clairec79
    • By clairec79 7th Oct 16, 7:08 PM
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    After about 14 minutes today I did get a bad stitch, managed to carry on until 15 minutes then had to slow to a walk for about 45 seconds (but didn't stop so I'm not counting it as a complete fail) then was able to go back to a job/run to finish the 25 minutes - any tips for dealing with a stitch?
    • Wild_Rover
    • By Wild_Rover 8th Oct 16, 9:33 AM
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    Hi WantToBeSE.

    Well done on 3/1.

    I've tended to do my runs before eating as well. Maybe I'll try to go mid afternoon tomorrow. I have a feeling I'll need all the help I can get!

    Cheers

    WR
    I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence. D McLeod
    Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my kids, who had to drown His own? RG. Ingersol
    I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. D Adams
    • WantToBeSE
    • By WantToBeSE 8th Oct 16, 10:49 AM
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    claire-i started to get a stitch yesterday, just as i was finishing though. I'm not sure what causes a stitch, hopefully someone else can help you.

    WR- Good luck with your run today. I am going to do the next few runs in the afternoon, after lunch and see if it makes a difference, or if it was just a 1 off!

    Rest day today! Good luck to everyone who is running!
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    • indesisiv
    • By indesisiv 8th Oct 16, 1:34 PM
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    @clairec79 I find that changing your breathing (big in then all the air out fully) usually sorts it. Or a slight change in pace.

    There is a technique that involves stuffing your fist into your diaphragm but personally I have never really managed to make that work.

    Don't eat within a few hours of starting your run normally helps too.
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    • Wild_Rover
    • By Wild_Rover 9th Oct 16, 11:40 AM
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    Today is week 3 run 1 and, given some of the comments here, I am trying a new approach.

    I had a bit of a lie-in today. I had a banana on toast at about 10.15 and have been hydrating myself. Mrs Wild Rover needs a lift somewhere for about 12.30 (parking is Hellish where she is going) so I'll drop her off, come home and start my run about 1.00 p.m.

    I'll report back.

    WR
    I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence. D McLeod
    Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my kids, who had to drown His own? RG. Ingersol
    I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. D Adams
    • clairec79
    • By clairec79 9th Oct 16, 12:31 PM
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    I managed 25 minutes this morning - only 3.5km in that time though so not convinced I'll be at 5k in a fortnight or so time

    It does make me realise how far I've come in the 7 weeks though, I wasn't completely unfit to start, but I didn't run. I'm still not enjoying the running but 10-15minutes is now absolutely fine, doesn't bother or frighten me at all - whereas the jump to 8 minutes was huge and scary at the time (and I didn't like the 5 minutes if I'm honest)
    • indesisiv
    • By indesisiv 9th Oct 16, 12:58 PM
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    I managed 25 minutes this morning - only 3.5km in that time though so not convinced I'll be at 5k in a fortnight or so time

    It does make me realise how far I've come in the 7 weeks though, I wasn't completely unfit to start, but I didn't run. I'm still not enjoying the running but 10-15minutes is now absolutely fine, doesn't bother or frighten me at all - whereas the jump to 8 minutes was huge and scary at the time (and I didn't like the 5 minutes if I'm honest)
    Originally posted by clairec79
    Once you are running for that length of time improvements come really quickly. A jump from 3.5k to 5k is no longer scary. Well done so far
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    • Wild_Rover
    • By Wild_Rover 9th Oct 16, 1:32 PM
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    Hi all!

    Week 3 run 1 completed. It was ok, but as would be expected, the last 30 seconds of the last run was hard. I just kept telling myself to keep going as I'd be furious with myself if I stopped. Seems to work.

    Now cooling down with water.

    I could murder a lager, but I won't !

    My regime for runs 2 and 3 is a bit off this week as we are away all day Tuesday, so it looks like Wednesday and Friday.

    Well done to all those doing this!

    WR
    I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence. D McLeod
    Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my kids, who had to drown His own? RG. Ingersol
    I find the whole business of religion profoundly interesting. But it does mystify me that otherwise intelligent people take it seriously. D Adams
    • WantToBeSE
    • By WantToBeSE 9th Oct 16, 1:34 PM
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    Today is week 3 run 1 and, given some of the comments here, I am trying a new approach.

    I had a bit of a lie-in today. I had a banana on toast at about 10.15 and have been hydrating myself. Mrs Wild Rover needs a lift somewhere for about 12.30 (parking is Hellish where she is going) so I'll drop her off, come home and start my run about 1.00 p.m.

    I'll report back.

    WR
    Originally posted by Wild_Rover
    I'll be interested to see how you get on with the later runs and also hydrating well.
    Have a great run!

    I managed 25 minutes this morning - only 3.5km in that time though so not convinced I'll be at 5k in a fortnight or so time

    It does make me realise how far I've come in the 7 weeks though, I wasn't completely unfit to start, but I didn't run. I'm still not enjoying the running but 10-15minutes is now absolutely fine, doesn't bother or frighten me at all - whereas the jump to 8 minutes was huge and scary at the time (and I didn't like the 5 minutes if I'm honest)
    Originally posted by clairec79
    You've done really well! I cant imagine running 5 mins, let alone 10-15 mins!

    Rest day again today. Back to it tomorrow afternoon
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    • indesisiv
    • By indesisiv 9th Oct 16, 1:44 PM
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    I could murder a lager, but I won't !
    Originally posted by Wild_Rover
    Noooo don't murder the lager! You drink it.

    Good effort WR, your brain is designed to stop you well before your body actually needs to stop. So just tell it to shut up and carry on

    You're doing better than me, I really struggle to stop my brain winning sometimes, when I really want to push I end up in a jog rather than speeding up!
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