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    • benten69
    • By benten69 29th Aug 16, 8:59 AM
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    Do you tip in restaurants?
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    • 29th Aug 16, 8:59 AM
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    Do you tip in restaurants? 29th Aug 16 at 8:59 AM
    Wasn't sure if this was the right place to put this, so admin, please move if needed.

    Do you guys (and girls) tip when you go for a meal out? Personally I hate the idea, and it's even worse when you've got the waiter standing next to you as you select "No" on the card machine.

    However, I always say that I don't get tips for doing anything extra and providing good levels of service in my job, so why should I pay others extra for a basic service their employers should be paying them for. In my previous role I saved the company £20,000 a day in penalties by delivering the project on time (a week early in fact), but I didn't get anything extra for it, because quite simply, it was my job.

    Hence, I don't agree with tipping. They are doing a job & getting their hourly rate, so why do I need to subsidize it? Tesco don't tell me to pay extra if I go to a till vs going to the self checkout.

    However, if there is a large group of us and say the bill comes out to £18 each, we'll all chuck in £20 and let the waiter / waitress keep the change. That's the only scenario it works in for me, as it saves everyone the hassle of finding change, waiting to get their change, etc.

    What are peoples thoughts?
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    • whiteslice
    • By whiteslice 3rd Dec 17, 2:13 PM
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    I always tip when eating out unless the service was really poor. I try to muster up the courage and ask for the 12.5% service charge to be removed, but don't always manage. I will tip 10% for decent service, 5% if the bill is huge, 15% in some circumstances (i.e. family run restaurant with good food & service and very low prices). I am not a fan of the tipping culture (and the automatically added service charge does irritate me) but I recognise that it's impossible to get by without tips if you're waiting tables, the pay is just too low.
    • Sephs
    • By Sephs 5th Dec 17, 12:26 PM
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    I tip if I've had a good meal and the staff have been pleasant and helpful, unless it's a self-serve restaurant (such as a carvery where you go up and get your food yourself). I aim for 10% but I have given more when the service has been particularly great.
    • imavillan
    • By imavillan 11th Dec 17, 5:46 PM
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    I only tip on the criteria of good service, friendly service, good food, good overall experience.

    If these boxes are ticked i will then ask the waiter/ress if the tips go directly to the staff or the ''business'' distributes them out, ie; makes up the wages with them. If this is the case i will not tip, other than being discrete and making sure it goes in the pocket of the person serving me.

    I cannot abide these places that use the tips to make up the wages of the staff. Indeed, once i know they do this i will not go back to the establishment.

    Its wrong, wrong, wrong.
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 11th Dec 17, 7:50 PM
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    Distributing tips as part of the payroll ensures the correct amount of income tax is paid!
    • Elliesmum
    • By Elliesmum 12th Dec 17, 1:13 PM
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    Yes I tip for good service. I will ask for the service charge to be removed and then pay what I would like to pay.

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    • jeradon
    • By jeradon 3rd Jan 18, 7:33 AM
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    Of course, I tip especially if the service and food are great.
    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 3rd Jan 18, 7:45 AM
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    Distributing tips as part of the payroll ensures the correct amount of income tax is paid!
    Originally posted by Nick_C

    Don't really care! I want my tip to go to who I want or its not worth brothering. I always give it to my server in cash. What they do after that is up to them.
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 3rd Jan 18, 9:23 AM
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    Don't really care! I want my tip to go to who I want or its not worth brothering. I always give it to my server in cash. What they do after that is up to them.
    Originally posted by scd3scd4
    You're in favour of tax evasion then?
    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 3rd Jan 18, 9:52 AM
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    You're in favour of tax evasion then?
    Originally posted by Nick_C

    I care more all the big companies pay before some young person on minimum wage. When they all do I may reconsider.
    • svain
    • By svain 3rd Jan 18, 1:55 PM
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    I care more all the big companies pay before some young person on minimum wage. When they all do I may reconsider.
    Originally posted by scd3scd4
    Good for you .... my thoughts exactly
    • takman
    • By takman 3rd Jan 18, 3:03 PM
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    I care more all the big companies pay before some young person on minimum wage. When they all do I may reconsider.
    Originally posted by scd3scd4
    So what big companies are taking part in tax evasion (which is illegally not paying the correct amount of tax) and have not payed what they owe?.
    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 3rd Jan 18, 5:31 PM
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    So what big companies are taking part in tax evasion (which is illegally not paying the correct amount of tax) and have not payed what they owe?.
    Originally posted by takman

    You can call it tax avoidance if you want but I know where my moral compass points. They love people like you defending them while demanding some young kid declares to few pounds tips they get over minimum wage. L


    Like I said they can keep it as far as I am concerned. We all know what MPs had been getting away with for years. And I would call a lot of that theft!
    • takman
    • By takman 3rd Jan 18, 5:44 PM
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    You can call it tax avoidance if you want but I know where my moral compass points. They love people like you defending them while demanding some young kid declares to few pounds tips they get over minimum wage. L

    Like I said they can keep it as far as I am concerned. We all know what MPs had been getting away with for years. And I would call a lot of that theft!
    Originally posted by scd3scd4
    So how much extra tax do you pay that you are not legally required too?.

    If you only pay the legal minimum amount of tax then why do you expect large companies to pay extra?.

    You have a strange moral compass if you think large companies should pay more tax than they legally have to and people on minimum wage can pay less than they legally have to.

    If you think that certain groups of people can illegally evade tax then your no better than the MP's that your talking about.
    • zagubov
    • By zagubov 4th Jan 18, 12:27 AM
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    I reckon some of the posters probably hold their breath until the meal's finished for fear the service staff will benefit from the oxygen they'd otherwise breathe out.
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    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 4th Jan 18, 12:59 AM
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    I care more all the big companies pay before some young person on minimum wage. When they all do I may reconsider.
    Originally posted by scd3scd4
    Someone could be earning a wage of £11K plus tips of £22K. You think they shouldn't be paying any income tax?

    Everyone should be paying their fair share of income tax. People on a very low income will legitimately pay nothing.

    Paying people cash in the expectation that they will not declare it encourages dishonesty.
    • Sparkiee
    • By Sparkiee 4th Jan 18, 7:30 AM
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    I tend to tip if the service / food is good or better than expected. If I go to other countries I follow their customs but in the UK if everything is just standard then that is their job. If it exceeds that then I tip.
    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 4th Jan 18, 10:51 AM
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    Someone could be earning a wage of £11K plus tips of £22K. You think they shouldn't be paying any income tax?

    Everyone should be paying their fair share of income tax. People on a very low income will legitimately pay nothing.

    Paying people cash in the expectation that they will not declare it encourages dishonesty.
    Originally posted by Nick_C
    I never said anything about not paying tax on their main income. I said they can keep my tip I gave to them and not put it in a central pot for everyone to share which was not my intention. If they don't pay tax on it I don't care. Maybe use your energy to make people pay who cost the NHS of millions who are not intilited.

    You think people earn tips equal there main wage?!.......how silly and naive.
    Last edited by scd3scd4; 04-01-2018 at 11:06 AM.
    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 4th Jan 18, 10:54 AM
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    So how much extra tax do you pay that you are not legally required too?.

    If you only pay the legal minimum amount of tax then why do you expect large companies to pay extra?.

    You have a strange moral compass if you think large companies should pay more tax than they legally have to and people on minimum wage can pay less than they legally have to.

    If you think that certain groups of people can illegally evade tax then your no better than the MP's that your talking about.
    Originally posted by takman
    They get away with not paying because the system allows them. Just like MPs. Just because it's the law or they have a good accountant does not make it moral or just. How about you start at the top and work down.

    I couldn't care less what you think about me and tips. I will continue to give it in cash and encourage them to keep it.
    Last edited by scd3scd4; 04-01-2018 at 12:58 PM.
    • scd3scd4
    • By scd3scd4 4th Jan 18, 10:59 AM
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    I had a friend she worked in a restaurant, a large chain.

    The management made all the staff put the tips in a central collection for an xmas party. I assume if you left before xmas you got none of the tips people had meant for you.

    Before xmas the manage leaves or is transferred and head office could not care less about the tips or the party.

    Like I said. I will only give cash to the waiter. What they decide to do, I don't care and will continue to do so regardless.
    Last edited by scd3scd4; 04-01-2018 at 12:59 PM.
    • Nick_C
    • By Nick_C 4th Jan 18, 11:50 AM
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    You think people earn tips equal there main wage?!.......how silly and naive.
    Originally posted by scd3scd4
    I know people whose tips are more than twice their salary.
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