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    • Rhodesbunny
    • By Rhodesbunny 22nd Jul 16, 4:20 PM
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    G24 parking ticket - Kingswood retail park hull
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 4:20 PM
    G24 parking ticket - Kingswood retail park hull 22nd Jul 16 at 4:20 PM
    Hi totally new to this forum and have been reading about people ignoring as this is only an invoice and not an official fine..

    I was 20m over a two hour time limit and have got a £100 enforcement letter. It was my error and I just didn't see the signs. My fault.

    I have never had anything like this and I'm afraid to ignore it. I'm horrified by the cost but it's not especially unfair as I did go over the time limit. In this case should i just contact them and pay? I will be terrifed if I get court letters, or it affects my credit record??
    ..

    Any help or advice is much appreciated xx
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    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 22nd Jul 16, 4:39 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 4:39 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 4:39 PM
    1. Read 'NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST' at the top of this forum board.

    2. Put G24 into 'search this forum/search this board'. read thr zillions of other G24 threads where no-one pays.

    3. What happened when you complained to the retailer about this crap?


    It was my error and I just didn't see the signs. My fault.
    Get real. No it wasn't. You sound young; you need to learn about scams in life.

    In this case should i just contact them and pay?
    Errrrrmmmm....no.


    I will be terrified if I get court letters, or it affects my credit record??
    It won't, get wise. Read other G24 threads, search the forum and read the sticky thread.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Redx
    • By Redx 22nd Jul 16, 5:13 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 5:13 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 5:13 PM
    IGNORE has not been recommended on here for almost 4 years, not since october 2012 when POFA2012 came in so I have no idea where you got that impression

    the answer is simple

    ALWAYS APPEAL

    if they dont cancel , then it may be IGNORE MODE and definitely is IGNORE MODE for this PPC which is G24

    so its , appeal, then ignore

    if court papers were to turn up within 6 years, you come back for more help
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 22nd Jul 16, 5:36 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 5:36 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 5:36 PM
    "It was my error and I just didn't see the signs. My fault".

    Why? Were the signs large enough, were they prominent, was the font large enough etc etc.

    "I'm horrified by the cost but it's not especially unfair as I did go over the time limit"

    Really?What car parks do you usually park in where you think £5 per minute is a fair charge?
    • Rhodesbunny
    • By Rhodesbunny 22nd Jul 16, 10:48 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 10:48 PM
    Thank you
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 10:48 PM
    Thank you for the advice, and unfortunately I am not particularly young (39)... I was attending a work meeting and I was in a rush. But I appreciate your comments. For some reason I can't access the newbie info - is it because I'm reading this on my phone?

    I will appeal, I have receipts from that day of places I had the meeting/purchased some things. I only stated it was my fault as surely I don't have a leg to stand on to contest this as I did over stay in the car park ( it wasn't unfair or incorrect).

    My ref to unfair was simply because it was my error, I think it's totally disgusting to charge such an amount and it did scare me to receive a letter like this. If my appeal is denied then ignore?

    Any advice or other way to view the newbie advice apppreciated. Thank you for reading and all advice. Apologies for coming across like a naive fool, I'm just so cross about it.

    Many thanks again
    • fisherjim
    • By fisherjim 22nd Jul 16, 11:14 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 11:14 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 11:14 PM
    If you are being serious about this put down your phone and get on a proper computer.

    You still have the wrong mind set, you are being scammed for a ridiculous sum of money by greedy Muppets that have just hit on an easy way to extract money out of victims.

    These are not official fines they are made up charges that are designed by nasty people that couldn't care less what they do or how they go about making easy money to buy their next BMW or villa in The Algarve.

    They serve no useful purpose and prey on victims including OAP's, the sick, disabled and anyone else they can get their hooks into.

    This is bandit country, stop thinking you are at fault, if you didn't see the signs they cannot have been prominent enough can they.

    The newbies thread is here three threads down on the first page:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4816822
    • Redx
    • By Redx 22nd Jul 16, 11:17 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 11:17 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 11:17 PM
    the NEWBIES sticky thread is about 3 threads down this forum, near the top, so above your thread

    ideally use a laptop, not a phone

    you do one appeal as keeper, then IGNORE

    never admit liability, they may not have planning permission for the signs , the signage could be woeful , not up to code , no landowner authority , all sorts

    its just an invoice , nothing more

    we could ask you for £25 for each and every reply and bill you for reading the advice, its an invoice , you would ignore us too if we charged you

    even if its true that you or the driver was in error, the punishment does not fit the "crime"

    if you found a mars bar in your bag after shopping in asda, you would not agree that if caught your hand is removed , would you ? error or no error
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Rhodesbunny
    • By Rhodesbunny 22nd Jul 16, 11:24 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 11:24 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 11:24 PM
    Thanks again to all. I have read the newbie section and will appeal on email asap as the keeper. Do I scan and attach receipts? Does that make any difference?

    Is it likely they will cancel or am I looking at a few more disgraceful letters that I need to ignore. .. ? I have also read that the company in question has never had any court claims. I feel furious that I almost paid this online this afternoon.
    • Redx
    • By Redx 22nd Jul 16, 11:33 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 11:33 PM
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    • 22nd Jul 16, 11:33 PM
    by all means scan and attach COPIES of receipts and appeal as KEEPER using the first template (the IPC template)

    also complain strongly to the landowner or retailer and again attach copies of receipts to prove patronage. they should not be targeting genuine shoppers

    maybe they should allow longer to shop ? 3 hour limit and you would have no problem

    my missus and her sister spent 5 hours on a retail park patrolled by parking eye who have a 4 hour limit !!

    they cancelled it after receipts showed patronage of shops on that large retail park (over 25 shops on there)

    G24 are unlikely to cancel but you never know

    G24 are unlikely to go to court but you never know

    the landowner who employed these par@sites needs their ear bent and realistic targets set for genuine shoppers

    yes you will get scummy demands for payment, IGNORE unless its actual court papers

    ps:- you should get 10 minutes grace period to park up , read the signs and comply, plus OVER 10 minutes grace period to leave the car park

    you are allowed 2 hours parking time , therefore time on site will be longer

    therefore you are within the total time limits of time on site once you add grace periods both sides of the parking time
    Last edited by Redx; 22-07-2016 at 11:38 PM.
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 22nd Jul 16, 11:36 PM
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    Feel relieved that you didn't pay it!

    I only stated it was my fault as surely I don't have a leg to stand on to contest this as I did over stay in the car park (it wasn't unfair or incorrect).
    Not your fault at all - you were shopping at the retail park! Totally unfair charge, in any other situation you would never stand for this trashy demand!

    You don't need a 'leg to stand on' (although you do have two) because, as Redx says, appealing is unlikely to get this cancelled.

    A complaint to the landowner/retailers has most success in getting G24's baseless charges cancelled in minutes. One phone call from a Store Manager this weekend can cancel for you, in most retail parks, or email the Head Office of any national retailer there, to complain angrily about this utter harassment.

    Think about it. The only reason you are wavering and think it's your fault/you did the 'crime' and maybe you should pay is because it's a pseudo parking 'ticket' made to look all official. And people pay parking tickets don't they - we are indoctrinated to worry about parking tickets so you are assuming 'blame'.

    Now stop and consider what your thoughts would be if instead of a parking firm, you had a letter from the retail park's cleaning firm, charging you £100 for dropping a tissue in the car park! You would either laugh at the ridiculous charge or get angry and complain - because it would be such a farce and an obvious scam.

    This is a farce and an obvious scam, see through it! It is the 'parking ticket' appearance that blinds/worries people.

    Don't let the fact it looks like a parking ticket and 'all official & scary' with threats of debt collectors, fool you into thinking it is anything less than aggressive business practice and harassment by an agent of the shop (or maybe contracted by the managing agents of the entire site). No more and no less than a VERY unfair charge; how DARE they do this to shoppers!


    Mrs Coupon-mad (a keen shopper who has collected several of these over the years!)
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 22-07-2016 at 11:49 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Redx
    • By Redx 22nd Jul 16, 11:40 PM
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    read this recent G24 cancellation, not much different

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5481708
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Rhodesbunny
    • By Rhodesbunny 22nd Jul 16, 11:51 PM
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    Again THANK YOU. Incredibly useful. It's like a 24 hour helpline on here :0) I have the retail park costa coffee ready on speed dial for morning (where I had my meeting). I will be laying it on thick as I have met there for a long time and will not in future if this is not cancelled.
    • Redx
    • By Redx 22nd Jul 16, 11:54 PM
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    well done

    and remember this mantra

    you parked for 2 hours in accordance with the parking rules

    any alleged "overstay" was grace period to park and read the signage , plus sufficient grace time to leave the car park , as per the IPC CoP and its also in the BPA CoP

    if the parking time allowed was a more realistic 3 or 4 hours like on many retail parks this wouldnt have happened
    Newbies !!
    Private Parking ticket? check the 2 sticky threads by coupon-mad and crabman in the Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking Board forum for the latest advice or maybe try pepipoo or C.A.G. or legal beagles forums if you need legal advice as well because this parking forum is not about debt collectors or legal matters per se
    • Rhodesbunny
    • By Rhodesbunny 23rd Jul 16, 9:41 AM
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    Phoning the retailer
    Hi again, I'm about to call the retailer (costa) about my charge. Any advice on what else to say? Feel nervous about it but totslly determined to get this cancelled. Any tips would be welcomed..

    Thanks again in advance for your support.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 23rd Jul 16, 2:57 PM
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    You should start by saying you need to talk to the Manager about a complaint. Then tell the Manager (not any little Saturday girl who answers) that you are really angry about this harassment and demand for money. Can they cancel it? If they say 'nothing to do with us' then do not say 'OK THEN' - it is clearly not OK. It must be to do with someone because parking firms have to be contracted by someone, they don't just appear one day and slap some signs up, nor do they own the car parks.

    If Costa 'can't help' ask who runs the site, get an email contact or name of the managing agent of the retail park.

    No rambling about what happened!
    Last edited by Coupon-mad; 23-07-2016 at 3:00 PM.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • Umkomaas
    • By Umkomaas 23rd Jul 16, 5:39 PM
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    Hi again, I'm about to call the retailer (costa) about my charge. Any advice on what else to say? Feel nervous about it but totslly determined to get this cancelled. Any tips would be welcomed..

    Thanks again in advance for your support.
    Originally posted by Rhodesbunny
    Try this:

    http://www.thecomplainingcow.co.uk/how-to-complain-tips/
    We cannot provide you with a silver bullet to get you out of this. You have to be in for the long run, and need to involve yourself in research and work for you to get rid of this. It is not simple. We will help, but can't do it for you.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 23rd Jul 16, 5:44 PM
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    And this:

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4766249

    Post #2 has links to G24 successful complaints, all pretty easy. We've had loads since then too.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

    • DaneM
    • By DaneM 2nd Oct 17, 8:55 PM
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    G24 pcn
    Hi, I know this is from last year but does anyone know what happened with this as we've had a letter from G24 today for the same retail park. We spent a long time in the Costa there catching up with my mum and brother (we live in Bristol) so was going to try and contact the Costa or the Retail Park and see if they will cancel the ticket.

    Thanks, Dane
    • Coupon-mad
    • By Coupon-mad 2nd Oct 17, 9:12 PM
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    Click on the thread starter's username, look at their profile. They haven't been here for a year.

    What happened in this case, one of hundreds, is no different than all the other cases re G24, regardless of which retail park they were infesting.

    All the same. All cancellable by retailers, every time. Do NOT ask nicely, get angry.
    PRIVATE PCN? DON'T PAY BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT TWO Clicks needed for advice:
    Top of the page: Home>>Forums>Household & Travel>Motoring>Parking Tickets, Fines & Parking - read the 'NEWBIES' FAQS thread!
    Advice to ignore is WRONG, unless in Scotland/NI.

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