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    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 5th Jan 18, 9:06 AM
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    Well Bob the govt cut the money they give to the councils and then sit back and watch the councils get the blame. Divide and conquer lol. But I'm not getting into politics on here it just makes me ratty. The number one prep in life has to be against our own govt, that is very true.
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 5th Jan 18, 11:42 AM
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    I grew up in a chemical industry town on Merseyside, and have the delicate mucous membranes to prove the effect pollution can have. Many of these medicines were developed and originally manufactured there. I don't believe my cave-painting ancestors walking across from Europe via Dogger had troublesome sinuses like mine.
    Originally posted by Shropshirelass
    Me too ... right in Liverpool, where the washing came in from the washing line dirty it was better (in terms of pollution, at any rate!) when we moved to the Wirral, but the wind came straight in from the Irish Sea to our 300 foot high hill

    Well Bob the govt cut the money they give to the councils and then sit back and watch the councils get the blame. Divide and conquer lol. But I'm not getting into politics on here it just makes me ratty. The number one prep in life has to be against our own govt, that is very true.
    Originally posted by mardatha
    I wish I had the energy, Mar ... trying to catch up with myself, and trying to live my life, is taking everything I've got. And frankly, though I know this sounds like a conspiracy theory - vested interest in the status quo, plus propaganda, keeps things the way they are I fought so hard against that in my 20s and 30s, but its still there
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    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 5th Jan 18, 3:44 PM
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    And my own dad fought against it in his 20s and 30s too Karmacat! And yet here we are today, back to the days of casual labour, now dressed up as "zero hours contracts" and back to the days when the sick starved and froze quietly at home
    • Witless
    • By Witless 5th Jan 18, 6:35 PM
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    .... and I: in my 20s, 30s .... now into my 60s and still trying.

    With acknowledgement, and thanks, to Alphonse Karr (Les GuÍpes, January 1849 ) -
    plus Áa change, plus c'est la mÍme chose
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 5th Jan 18, 6:38 PM
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    Gee thanks, BB. Thanks a flippin' bundle.

    I (local government employee) had a pay increase in the present tax year for the first time in the best part of a decade. Net, it would buy me one medium portion of chips per week. It doesn't come anywhere near keeping up with the cost of living increases in this year, never mind the ones in previous years. The cumulative effect of the loss of pay over many years means I and other like me are sliding into poverty.

    Most of my colleagues scrabble around with side gigs, like having a second job, or selling online, doing the electoral canvass/ elections duties etc etc. We're chazzer experts and YS blackbelts and work like crazy and are still only just above the poverty line ourselves.

    I'm on the verge of slipping out of income tax liability altogether, because the threshold inches upwards annually and the wages don't; I may not pay any income tax after April, which will mean no more gift-aiding chazzer donations. Bliddy NI is x 4.5 the income tax already and I will be still paying that, of course.

    For our sins (and I work one month every year to pay my council tax in a Band A property in a deprived ward) we get to take all the fallout from the public when they find out that they can't get what they used to get for the ever-increasing council tax. The public forgets, or never even knew, that millions of ££ spent in their area each year wasn't ever raised locally, it came from central government, and they've been cutting it back by multiple millions per authority, year in and year out. About three-quarters came from central government, not council tax. Where did that money go, lovely peeps?

    Sooo, if you wanna !!!!! about politicians, give your local council(s) a flippin' break and take the fight to the perpetrators in Lunnon Town.

    * climbs off soapbox and stomps off to go hunting YS bargains instead of doing something extravagant like buying a bag of chips. Grrrrr!!!!!!!!!*
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 5th Jan 18, 7:32 PM
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    Gimme a guillotine! Gimme a barricade!! Gimme a bag of chips!!
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 5th Jan 18, 7:35 PM
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    Gimme a guillotine! Gimme a barricade!! Gimme a bag of chips!!
    Originally posted by mardatha
    Heh! I can't afford chips for mesel, never mind for mad arthur.

    One good thing about having had some sketchy eating in the past 3 days - lost 0.7 kg.........
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 5th Jan 18, 10:07 PM
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    Well Bob the govt cut the money they give to the councils and then sit back and watch the councils get the blame.
    Originally posted by mardatha
    The money the Government gives to the Councils, is our money anyway, so, whether the money to pay for local services comes from central Government or Council Tax, it's still our money being used.
    My job is Top Secret. Even I don't know what I'm doing.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - £1161
    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 6th Jan 18, 9:19 AM
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    Apart from what the govt keep in their hot sticky wee trotters... that's ours too but we'll never see it again.
    Snow showers this morning and to be minus 6 tonight.
    RV had a terrible night, heart pounding,distressed and shaky - then we found he forgot to take his heart pills yesterday. Never happened before and makes us realise how good those pills are.
    • thriftwizard
    • By thriftwizard 7th Jan 18, 11:18 AM
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    Had an email round about wind-damaged "structures" at the allotments, so OH & I hot-footed it over there this morning (first day he's really been up to a walk in the icy blasts) to assess any damage to our free-off-Gumtree bodged-together shed. I'm delighted to report that it was still sitting sturdily on the edge of our plot & nothing of ours seems to have suffered any great harm beyond a little nibbling and some frost-shock to the perpetual spinach, which it'll bounce back from. Some other plot-holders haven't been so lucky; some of the little plastic greenhouses have flown clear over the site & collapsed in a heap by the fence & there are composters & waterbutts in some very strange places.

    Even though it does cut down the sunlight a little, and gives us an ongoing battle against some fearsome weeds, I'm blessing the day I picked a plot with a hedge alongside it...
    Angie

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    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 7th Jan 18, 11:32 AM
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    RV had a terrible night, heart pounding,distressed and shaky - then we found he forgot to take his heart pills yesterday. Never happened before and makes us realise how good those pills are.
    Originally posted by mardatha
    I'm glad you realised, at least, mar - hope there were no aftereffects from forgetting the pills

    Had an email round about wind-damaged "structures" at the allotments, so OH & I hot-footed it over there this morning (first day he's really been up to a walk in the icy blasts) to assess any damage to our free-off-Gumtree bodged-together shed. I'm delighted to report that it was still sitting sturdily on the edge of our plot & nothing of ours seems to have suffered any great harm beyond a little nibbling and some frost-shock to the perpetual spinach, which it'll bounce back from. Some other plot-holders haven't been so lucky; some of the little plastic greenhouses have flown clear over the site & collapsed in a heap by the fence & there are composters & waterbutts in some very strange places.

    Even though it does cut down the sunlight a little, and gives us an ongoing battle against some fearsome weeds, I'm blessing the day I picked a plot with a hedge alongside it...
    Originally posted by thriftwizard
    Glad you've got no damage!

    Wind here has picked up again this morning, though not as bad as the bit that took down the remainder of my gently decomposing fence, which is now stacked just outside the front door ...
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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 7th Jan 18, 5:16 PM
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    You've got the makings of a bonfire, Karmakat!

    I've had a wee bonfire today, the wind was in the correct quarter - heading out over the common, informal site rules (i.e. cultural information passed from existing plotholders to newbies) is that we don't have bonfires when the wind is blowing t'other way, which is actually the prevailing wind, as it blows towards the houses.

    Burned up a dried-out pile of runner bean haulms and the last of the sunflower stalks. The big bonfire was in autumn but these things were still green, then.

    Busily preparing for the coming growing season, have added a chytte-tonne * of spent coffee grounds and some ground-up eggshells into the soil, part of the ongoing project. Have also harvested some feral chard, which overwinters perfectly well but which looks a touch tatty at this time of year. And leeks, there's always leeks.

    Me and my hipster toyboy ( a lovely chap half my age who is a pal, to the great amusement of my peers who insist he's my toyboy, he's in on the joke because I told him) have been hatching plans for charging around town in his car and bargaineering. He gives me (and the coffee grounds) lifts and I give him gardening tips, what could be more perfect?

    * The chytte-tonne is one of the less-commonly used metric measurements, a bit like decilitres - it exists but you don't find it used much. This is attributable to the EU committee, which coined the term, not realising that it's likely to sound rather vulgar in English. Someone did try to warn them, and got a blank look and a gallic shrug for their troubles. You may want to save this factoid in case you need it for a pub quiz one day.**

    ** And if you believe that, I have an excellent investment opportunity for you, applications via the PM system, first come first served.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 7th Jan 18, 6:35 PM
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    a perfect day, then, GQ

    A bonfire! Yep, I could, actually - this was the first day without rain for a looong time, lovely sun (I got some washing out on the line!) and I hope the situation will be good for a bonfire in the next few days. That would help the garden situation - there's a *lot* of wood waiting around ...
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    • elona
    • By elona 7th Jan 18, 10:13 PM
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    Fuddle

    I once tucked a hankie sprinkled with essential oils down my nightie
    neckline to help my stuffed up nose and woke up to find a red rash like a burn on my neck It took a few panicked minutes before I realised what had caused it.

    A very old cure for a sore throat was to have a boiled or roasted onion put into a sock which was folded round the neck.

    Personally I like hot lemonade or blackcurrant juice and essential oils burned in a special holder.
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    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 7th Jan 18, 10:15 PM
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    I haven't poked my whiskers outside for weeks. I really need to get out a walk tomorrow, I'm looking very peelywally (peaky to you furriners). Was nice today, sunny and blue skies but a high of minus 2. Garden still under 2" of frozen snow.
    • Karmacat
    • By Karmacat 8th Jan 18, 2:12 PM
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    2" of frozen snow is just ....

    I started my initiative to increase my stamina today - as I added quite a bit to the official part, by popping off to the shops afterwards, I'm shattered! But I did also meet a couple of local ladies - that's part of my prepping, to make more links locally.
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    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 8th Jan 18, 4:10 PM
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    Ventured down to the postvan and then round the village - 3 very short streets, 24 houses . Was so cold I had to cover my mouth with a scarf, as breathing hurt. Temp dropping like a stone now and the sky a lovely blend of blue and pink and violet.
    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 8th Jan 18, 10:29 PM
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    Some scary reading on FluTrackers re the flu outbreak in America..
    • kittie
    • By kittie 9th Jan 18, 8:22 AM
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    frightening about the flu mar. I am avoiding people as much as possible and certainly not going shopping, would rather make do with what I have in the house and entertain myself at home

    Trouble is trying to have some exercise, I much prefer cycling because pounding the lanes is bad on my knees and ankles and I mean determined walking not running. Cycling in cold air ( <9) is not good for me because of the deep breathing and ultimately the open mouth breathing. So I go up and down stairs.

    I keep thinking that the queen doesn`t do active exercise and she is a ripe old age and so are a couple of people I know at 90+ who don`t exercise apart from ambling around. I always come out of winter without losing too much of my cycling ability so I think we are meant to hibernate quietly, to keep us safe through the cold months
    • thriftwizard
    • By thriftwizard 9th Jan 18, 8:56 AM
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    I keep thinking that the queen doesn`t do active exercise and she is a ripe old age and so are a couple of people I know at 90+ who don`t exercise apart from ambling around.
    Kittie, my mother’s 91 and her idea of exercise has always been opening the car door. She’s forever telling me off for using the stairs rather than the lift, or “scurrying about” - “you’ll wear yourself out, you know!” No amount of government advice is going to make her think that going out in the cold or getting sweaty (NOT ladylike) can ever do you good! She could be fitter, it’s true, and would probably be happier if she was, but at the end of the day, genes & sheer luck play the major part and all we can do is improve our chances of staying independent & capable for our allotted span. So I’d agree - stay indoors!
    Angie

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    Money's just a substitute for time & talent...
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