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    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 7th Dec 17, 8:27 PM
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    Rats are far too smart to get themselves caught in traps.
    Originally posted by mardatha
    Not when the trap has four legs and fur.
    My job is Top Secret. Even I don't know what I'm doing.

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    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 8th Dec 17, 8:31 AM
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    I had a family of rats move into the garden once when I had chickens, and the feral ginger tom that I used to feed at the back door took care of them all. That was after we tried traps and poison, and even shooting them from the doorstep
    • pineapple
    • By pineapple 8th Dec 17, 9:08 AM
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    Rats are an ongoing problem here - partly due to the farm on one side, my bonkers food scattering neighbour on the other and the nearby river.
    The farmer refuses to have a cat as he contends their faeces can infect livestock (would have thought vermin was the bigger issue) and my neighbour refuses to stop scattering bird food on the ground. She does it every day before dusk. Sometimes you can see the rats lining up on her shed for their evening meal. And of course they cut through my garden from the farm to get there.
    I used to have a perspex bird feeding tray attached to the window. Then one day I saw a rat stood on the ledge on tiptoes stretching to get at the food. I was inside so got the full frontal view.
    We go through phases of putting down poison or traps but it feels like a pointless kill fest. I've heard it said said that nature just fills the vacuum as for a time there is more food available for less vermin. Got some rat traps down outside at the mo but all I got so far was a poor wee mouse.
    I hate the poison too as apparently it's a terrible death (not that I would hesitate if I got them in the house!). You would think would you not that in this day and age they could invent something that would just put them to sleep or maybe even just stop the reproductive cycle.
    • pineapple
    • By pineapple 8th Dec 17, 9:16 AM
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    Ratty's back, as GQ predicted. I can hear him chewing under my kitchen units. There are still the bait boxes there, left untouched by last year's rats. Any thoughts?
    Originally posted by jk0
    Have you tried the ultrasonic repellers? I once had gnawing sounds in a party wall. I plugged in one of those and no more sounds. My neighbours have some in their loft and swear by them.
    Do you know where they are getting in?
    The other thing to try is changing the brand of poison
    • jk0
    • By jk0 8th Dec 17, 12:15 PM
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    Yes, someone else recommended the ultrasonic gadgets. I am wary of them in case they damage my hearing.

    Fun & games with the rat man this morning:

    He found a hole between my kitchen and below the floor under my downstairs wc used by the electrician running the wiring for the kitchen sockets. He put some bait down the hole, then pushed in wire wool. Unfortunately the wire had been nibbled by the rat, and so set fire to the wire wool!

    We got the hole sealed in the end with silicone.
    • Living proof
    • By Living proof 8th Dec 17, 3:29 PM
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    I have the ultrasonic ones in my garage and no problem with ears or rats! I was reading only yesterday how some rats are going to be given drugs in their feed to only allow them to reproduce males. That should soon cut down the general population.
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    • jk0
    • By jk0 8th Dec 17, 4:35 PM
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    I was reading only yesterday how some rats are going to be given drugs in their feed to only allow them to reproduce males. That should soon cut down the general population.
    Originally posted by Living proof
    Wouldn't it be better if people did not feed them at all?
    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 8th Dec 17, 6:46 PM
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    Does the ultrasonic thingy interfere with cats or dogs? I have a really loud gnawing inside my wall with next door, but the cat sleeps in that room..
    • jk0
    • By jk0 8th Dec 17, 7:01 PM
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    Does the ultrasonic thingy interfere with cats or dogs? I have a really loud gnawing inside my wall with next door, but the cat sleeps in that room..
    Originally posted by mardatha
    I should tell cat he's got the sack.
    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 8th Dec 17, 7:35 PM
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    She's far too posh to even contemplate anything as low as a rat. If she ever saw one she'd scream and run up my leg!
    • Nargleblast
    • By Nargleblast 8th Dec 17, 8:20 PM
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    Wouldn't it be better if people did not feed them at all?
    Originally posted by jk0
    I suppose the thinking is that the beggars will get food wherever they can find it, so you might as well provide them with some food with extra special “seasoning”....
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    • DigForVictory
    • By DigForVictory 8th Dec 17, 9:16 PM
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    I hope I get to that point because at 13 and 9 my girls have me demented.
    Originally posted by fuddle
    And that is entirely normal. Completely undocumented in the baby books & mummy manuals but absolutely normal. If they show any signs of emerging before they are old enough to vote, it's a false dawn or there's been trauma. (Worse, it can be Both.)

    Mum used to whimper at us to be nice to each other - baby sis, scenting fresh meat snarled "so when did you & your sisters get on, then?" and after some meditative arithmetic, mum admitted "about 40". Which cheered her up a little.

    Me, I think she's a raving optimist as while they were all married mothers, she & I are the only ones thus & my sisters remain strong minded bachelor gals. Only when we girls have something solidly in common, like complete bereavement, are we going to be able to meet on common ground, I fear.

    As for rats, get the professional chemists in. Pronto, as I'd hate to see a valid house insurance claim succumb to the "failed to take proper care of the fabric" clause...
    • jk0
    • By jk0 9th Dec 17, 3:34 PM
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    Overnight inspiration
    The rat-man who came yesterday made a point of going all round my property to see if there were any holes where a rat could go in. It struck me overnight that the previous owner used a broken metal air vent in the garage to take mains out there.

    I just went out to the garage, dragged my workbench away from the vent, and sure enough the cable was partially nibbled. I detached the cable and bolted a couple of bits of sheet steel over the broken vent.

    Fingers crossed, that does the trick.
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 9th Dec 17, 5:11 PM
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    It snowed overnight, and for most of today (it's stopped at the moment), and we currently have maybe 1" of snow on the ground.

    Judging by the sky, I'm expecting we'll get more overnight tonight.
    My job is Top Secret. Even I don't know what I'm doing.

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    • Mojisola
    • By Mojisola 9th Dec 17, 6:26 PM
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    It snowed overnight, and for most of today (it's stopped at the moment), and we currently have maybe 1" of snow on the ground.

    Judging by the sky, I'm expecting we'll get more overnight tonight.
    Originally posted by Bedsit Bob
    We've got 4+", well frozen, and another 4" or so to come tonight to top it up.

    Planning on staying home tomorrow.
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 9th Dec 17, 7:08 PM
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    And it's snowing again.
    My job is Top Secret. Even I don't know what I'm doing.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - £1161
    • dND
    • By dND 10th Dec 17, 7:02 AM
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    Take care everyone, stay safe and stay warm. xx

    • thriftwizard
    • By thriftwizard 10th Dec 17, 8:42 AM
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    Grey & soggy here! We did have a tiny flurry of sleety stuff on Friday morning, but nothing more. It’s also considerably warmer now.
    Angie

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    • ivyleaf
    • By ivyleaf 10th Dec 17, 10:04 AM
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    We were expecting rain, but have snow which keeps turning to rain, sleet and back to snow again. Not deep snow thought! Only about 1 cm.
    • maryb
    • By maryb 10th Dec 17, 11:53 AM
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    Same here Ivyleaf - not too surprising as we're not that far from you. I laughed when I saw the Mail headline - breathlessly announcing there could be FLURRIES in LONDON!!

    But I will hole up indoors until it's all gone. Don't fancy another three months in a back brace
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
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