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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 12th Mar 17, 7:37 AM
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    A stash of cooking foil is very useful, in the event of a water supply failure/drought.
    Originally posted by Bedsit Bob
    Plus you need plenty to hand in case your tinfoil hat wears out.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 12th Mar 17, 8:03 AM
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    Water is the last thing Scotland will run out of
    • moneyistooshorttomention
    • By moneyistooshorttomention 12th Mar 17, 8:48 AM
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    ....or Wales either.....
    Freedom of speech - the highest value we have.
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 12th Mar 17, 10:23 AM
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    It's approaching 17 hours, since I plugged in the Heated Travel Mug.

    The tea isn't cold, but it's not scalding hot either.

    It's "hotish", by which I mean I can dip my finger in it, without it being too uncomfortable.
    My job is Top Secret. Even I don't know what I'm doing.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - £1161
    • jk0
    • By jk0 12th Mar 17, 10:53 AM
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    I bet the tea tastes vile though, doesn't it Bob? Even my Thermos tea leaves a lot to be desired.

    BTW, this morning I have been reading 'A Guide to the Bank of England's Real Time Gross Settlement System.'

    http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/markets/Documents/paymentsystems/rtgsguide.pdf


    Since mid-April 2013, the Bank has provided a Liquidity Saving Mechanism (LSM) within RTGS. This LSM contains a ‘central scheduler’ that enables the CHAPS banks to manage their payment flows centrally. In particular,banks can decide whether their CHAPS payments should settle via ‘urgent’ or ‘non-urgent’ streams. For most of the time, RTGS will only settle urgent CHAPS payments, one at a time and in much same way as it has since RTGS was first introduced. However, every few minutes the LSM will suspend urgent payment processing and switch to a ‘matching cycle’ that will match and then simultaneously settle batches of offsetting non-urgent payments.

    Offsetting payments will still settle gross from a legal standpoint but the simultaneous nature of the settlement means that banks will economise on the use of liquidity.
    Looks like I was on to something.
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 12th Mar 17, 3:29 PM
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    If prices continue to go up across the board and we have to think about making choices to keep ourselves fed, clothed and warm what will be your personal priorities? What will be the things that you would give up other things to have on a regular basis? What will you give up? What won't you give up under any circumstances? What changes would you consider making to your lives that would make you more likely to be able to afford the things you need?

    I have dropped to two meals a day rather than 3, I don't do breakfast other than a couple of cups of tea and have lunch rather earlier than we used to between 12.15 and 12.30 rather than 1 to 1.30 because I get good and hungry by then and we don't and haven't since installing the multi fuel stove used the central heating system in the house. We only use the boiler to heat the water twice a day. I got rid of the tumble drier years ago and dry washing indoors on wet or very cold days in the utility room as the boiler keeps it warmer in there than on a clothes horse in one of the other rooms. We've cut back on meat and cheese too and have smaller portions when we do have them.

    I think it would be very useful to have folks input and ideas for making the most of what we do have now and in the future.

    My one MUST have thing is Tea in any form! and a good store of firewood so I know we won't be cold.
    Go forward with the vision even if no one else can see it!

    Some people use words to reflect who they want to be, but actions ALWAYS show who they really are!
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 12th Mar 17, 4:10 PM
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    Not exactly prepping related, but I just picked up a 23" HP 2309v, LCD monitor, for £28.

    My job is Top Secret. Even I don't know what I'm doing.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - £1161
    • mardatha
    • By mardatha 12th Mar 17, 4:43 PM
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    I could live on 2 meals a day -and the same food in those meals every day - as long as it was food I liked.
    I won't give up tea for anything, I can't.
    I would eat less and heat more, if push came to shove. I don't fancy dying of pneumonia or consumption.
    And I wouldn't stress my face off about having a bath every day or washing my clothes every day - as I know fine people can stay clean and fresh without that.
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 12th Mar 17, 5:06 PM
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    I couldn't lower or turn off the heat to save money as it's a fixed charge in with my rent and I'm paying for it whether I'm using it or not. And if I tried the argument that I'm prepared to use less to pay less, I don't think that would fly.

    I eat pretty cheaply (just in from Tosspots where I made out like a bandit on YS). Spend almost nothing on clothing, footwear, toiletries etc anyway.

    One thing which would hurt to lose would be the telecoms. I really like my broadband and landline but I had to give them up to keep a roof over my head, I would just have to do it.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 12th Mar 17, 5:34 PM
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    My question above has made me think 'What IS prepping?' and I guess it is everything from remembering to take an umbrella if the forecast is for rain through to digging a bunker for safe haven in the event of Armageddon actually happening and all things between. My take is to always be looking ahead at events that look a possibility and trying to second guess how they will affect us and make what preparations I can to lessen the effect they have on our lives. It's always going to be a guess and not always the right one in terms of what I achieve but one thing I DO know is that if I can make a cup of tea there will be at least one good thing in my life that day!!!
    Go forward with the vision even if no one else can see it!

    Some people use words to reflect who they want to be, but actions ALWAYS show who they really are!
    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 12th Mar 17, 5:48 PM
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    Do you know people who don't have a spare lightbulb in the house? Or who ignore the fuel gauge on their car until they're running on red? Who think that they'll never ever lose a job and don't need to have a rainy day fund? Who don't bother to have household insurance (and they could afford to do) because it's just a scam, innit? Who don't carry cash because everyone and their parking machine takes cards these days (nope)? Who go out in winter without a coat because it's uncool and end up shivering and/ or soaked to the skin?

    I'm a cautious person. I look the 'wrong' way up one-way streets before crossing them. I used to live in a one-way system and still see people drive or bike against the one-ways several times a month. I dress appropriately for a changeable climate and never assume that a day which starts out glorious and dry is going to be the same a few hours later.

    I trust my good sense but not necessarily that strangers will have any at all. Prepping is, to me, an outgrowth of caution and common-sense.

    At work we get messages that such-and-such postcode is off supply for water or electricty. Sometimes, it's my very own postcode. I glance at it and shrug; if the utility is still down when I get home, I have preparations in place and won't be inconvenienced much at all.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • Si Clist
    • By Si Clist 12th Mar 17, 6:35 PM
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    My question above has made me think 'What IS prepping?
    Originally posted by MrsLurcherwalker
    To us, I guess it's mainly two things.

    Checking every three months that the bug-our bag's good to go with what will keep us self-sufficient anywhere for 48 hours minimum plus essential paperwork and puter files.

    Always keeping enough water to last 48 hours, enough stock of food 'n' stuff to enable us to do without any shopping for 14 days, and enough logs to keep us warm for 6 months. (Power we can do without indefinitely, likewise mains sewerage.)

    Apart from that, AFAIC "prepping" is to do with resilience, low expectations, a frugal lifestyle and the conviction that it could all go pear-shaped at any time ...
    A positive attitude might not solve all your problems, but it'll annoy enough people to make the effort worthwhile
    • maryb
    • By maryb 12th Mar 17, 6:51 PM
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    For me, prepping is not having to run round like a headless chicken for short term disruptions and being able to keep my family safe and comfortable in those circumstances. I could cope with most scenarios lasting a few days. I also have some medium term resilience - say a few weeks - with the multifuel stove and a good supply of logs, plus I have well equipped kitchen and craft supplies and moderate skill in using them.

    But I know this would only tide me over short term disruption/medium term issues such as intermittent power cuts becoming the norm. I have thought long and hard about what I could do to prepare for more extreme scenarios and I don't think there is much more I could realistically do.
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 12th Mar 17, 7:12 PM
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    Or who ignore the fuel gauge on their car until they're running on red?
    Originally posted by GreyQueen
    Driving a diesel, as I do, I wouldn't dare do that.
    My job is Top Secret. Even I don't know what I'm doing.

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    • GreyQueen
    • By GreyQueen 12th Mar 17, 7:19 PM
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    For one job, I used to drive a diesel ford escort van. With a broken fuel gauge. Although this multi-drop delivery van worked six days a week, and was serviced every three weeks, the employer didn't think it worth getting the gauge fixed.

    Standing instruction to staff was to set the trip counter every time you filled the tank and then go into the nearest filling station when it hit 250 miles. We never had any problems, it was just something you knew you had to do.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)

    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 12th Mar 17, 7:28 PM
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    I think also it's about NOT allowing yourself to be utterly scared by changes you have no control over, if you can keep your head cool and roll with the situation rather than being scared to the point of terror and not able to think straight to the point of being the 'rabbit in the headlights' you will stand perhaps a much better chance of dealing with whatever it is and removing you and yours with as little damage as possible to a safer place. Part of what I try for is buying 'time' in situ by having in the water, food, meds, equipment and the means to cook/heat water etc. here already which enables us to just lock down and be as invisible as we can and also not have to compete for what is left in the shops when people DO panic and try for last minute supplies. I guess that does come under the hat of resilience? Hopefully if it IS safe to stay it will get us enough time to allow the situation to be dealt with by the emergency services and make it safer for us to leave when we are able.
    Go forward with the vision even if no one else can see it!

    Some people use words to reflect who they want to be, but actions ALWAYS show who they really are!
    • jk0
    • By jk0 12th Mar 17, 7:36 PM
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    J. Collis Browne's Mixture
    Recently I ordered a bottle of this, as you can't get medicine over the counter with opiates in it nowadays.

    I have an awful cough today. (I've actually made my chest hurt with coughing.) I've taken several doses of Covonia for tickly coughs, but it gives me a belly ache.

    Dare I take some Collis Browne's? It says a side effect is constipation.
    • MrsLurcherwalker
    • By MrsLurcherwalker 12th Mar 17, 7:57 PM
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    He Who Knows tore a sheet of muscles in his side with the cough that came with his virus! he is still having to take pain killers (although is in less discomfort now) and we're coming up to 7 weeks. Luckily my preps included some over the counter Co Codamol in the medicine chest which gave him some relief until he could get to the GP.....unfortunately it too is known to have constipation as a side effect!
    Go forward with the vision even if no one else can see it!

    Some people use words to reflect who they want to be, but actions ALWAYS show who they really are!
    • Si Clist
    • By Si Clist 12th Mar 17, 8:06 PM
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    Dare I take some Collis Browne's? It says a side effect is constipation.
    Originally posted by jk0
    It's been many years since I was behind a counter selling C B's "Chlorodyne" as it then was, but I distinctly recall it was always sold for Gippy Tummy and/or the trots - never primarily for coughs.

    If it's a niggling tickly cough, Pholcodine Linctus (which is nothing to do with codeine) is the best over-the-counter remedy I've ever found. And it's cheap
    A positive attitude might not solve all your problems, but it'll annoy enough people to make the effort worthwhile
    • Bedsit Bob
    • By Bedsit Bob 12th Mar 17, 8:10 PM
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    It says a side effect is constipation.
    Originally posted by jk0
    That's one way of making sure TS doesn't HTF.
    My job is Top Secret. Even I don't know what I'm doing.

    Amount I have so far denied the BBC - £1161
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