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Results: Are you voting to remain or leave?

Remain

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    • tara747
    • By tara747 24th May 16, 12:17 PM
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    Referendum: which way are you voting?
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    • 24th May 16, 12:17 PM
    Referendum: which way are you voting? 24th May 16 at 12:17 PM
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    Just out of curiosity.


    Feel free to state your reasons either way in the comments
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    • RikM
    • By RikM 7th Oct 16, 5:50 PM
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    Yep. The Tories turn into UKIP, while UKIP turns into Fight Club (better not talk about that)
    • x12yhp
    • By x12yhp 8th Oct 16, 8:23 AM
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    It's all going like a sensible analyst would have predicted. Unless you believe the daily mail.
    Always overestimating...
    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 12th Oct 16, 11:17 AM
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    I'd say there's a fair possibility this isn't going to happen at all. What if March comes and everything is so disrupted they stall and hold another referendum?
    • tara747
    • By tara747 12th Oct 16, 6:39 PM
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    Maybe it'll all be called off, but there's also an argument for saying "let them have their hard Brexit and see how they like it".


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/janan-ganesh-why-britain-must-have-a-hard-brexit-1.2824478


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    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 12th Oct 16, 10:09 PM
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    A Dutch man writing in today's guardian claims all the other EU states are dedicated to making the union work. A couple of lines later he declares that Britain must be seen to have made a serious mistake, so that other countries will be discouraged from leaving. Make your mind up, man.

    It seems ports down south are willing to act as the uk's effective frontier by checking foreign arrivals. This is supposedly to ensure a continued open border here. All right, but what about tariffs on cross border trade? Smuggling may be the new business opportunity of 2019.

    Is there a likelihood that Brexit is just not feasible?

    You know, you'd almost think very little of this has been properly thought through.
    • donnac2558
    • By donnac2558 13th Oct 16, 9:07 AM
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    Well Tesco have gone to war with Unilever over the price of Marmite because of Brexit.

    Yes, as I said we are doomed. Riots will start over the Marmite Outrage.

    Sterling is dropping like a stone so of course imposted goods will cost more.
    • tara747
    • By tara747 13th Oct 16, 10:47 AM
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    A Dutch man writing in today's guardian claims all the other EU states are dedicated to making the union work. A couple of lines later he declares that Britain must be seen to have made a serious mistake, so that other countries will be discouraged from leaving. Make your mind up, man.

    It seems ports down south are willing to act as the uk's effective frontier by checking foreign arrivals. This is supposedly to ensure a continued open border here. All right, but what about tariffs on cross border trade? Smuggling may be the new business opportunity of 2019.

    Is there a likelihood that Brexit is just not feasible?

    You know, you'd almost think very little of this has been properly thought through.
    Originally posted by qwert yuiop

    It's not clear that the Irish govt is willing to do that, nor that the Irish people would be happy about it! Some have suggested that it's unconstitutional.


    Well Tesco have gone to war with Unilever over the price of Marmite because of Brexit.

    Yes, as I said we are doomed. Riots will start over the Marmite Outrage.

    Sterling is dropping like a stone so of course imposted goods will cost more.
    Originally posted by donnac2558

    Yep, inflation is coming and of course people will be hopping mad when prices start to rise...
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    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 13th Oct 16, 1:46 PM
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    Would Britain be able to maintain a special relationship with the Republic of Ireland after Brexit ? How could one eu member state have privileges that others don't? British law does not consider the state to be foreign. How terribly racist. Would Brussels be able to prevent Dublin from making exclusive deals with London? It's all up in the air. Apparently the common travel arrangement was suspended from 1939 to 1952, but that was admittedly a very strange time.
    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 13th Oct 16, 2:45 PM
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    Yep, inflation is coming and of course people will be hopping mad when prices start to rise...
    Originally posted by tara747

    If it's a one off readjustment in the pound it'll be a one off inflationary pulse. It's hit petrol already. If the pound stays at the new level, that'll be it.

    Now, I wonder what all this upset is doing to the housing market. Any expert opinions available?
    • donnac2558
    • By donnac2558 13th Oct 16, 5:03 PM
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    I watch the RTE News, it seems they are interested in companies wishing to leave the UK after Brexit coming to the Republic.
    • tara747
    • By tara747 13th Oct 16, 6:24 PM
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    If it's a one off readjustment in the pound it'll be a one off inflationary pulse. It's hit petrol already. If the pound stays at the new level, that'll be it.

    Now, I wonder what all this upset is doing to the housing market. Any expert opinions available?
    Originally posted by qwert yuiop

    A one-off adjustment of about 20%? And that's assuming that the pound doesn't fall further?


    Would Britain be able to maintain a special relationship with the Republic of Ireland after Brexit ? How could one eu member state have privileges that others don't? British law does not consider the state to be foreign. How terribly racist. Would Brussels be able to prevent Dublin from making exclusive deals with London? It's all up in the air. Apparently the common travel arrangement was suspended from 1939 to 1952, but that was admittedly a very strange time.
    Originally posted by qwert yuiop


    Those are very good questions, to which I don't have an answer.



    I watch the RTE News, it seems they are interested in companies wishing to leave the UK after Brexit coming to the Republic.
    Originally posted by donnac2558

    Yes, I'm sure they are. Ireland will be the only English-speaking country left in the EU.


    Meanwhile, in NI... http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/news/fujitsu-belfast-and-derry-jobs-at-risk-in-1800-job-cuts-35122532.html
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    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 14th Oct 16, 12:24 PM
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    I know for a fact that's not related to Brexit. Fujitsu have been struggling in the UK for some time.


    Also usual shoddy journalism by Bel Tel as the headline implies 1800 jobs are to go in NI, whereas its across the UK
    Regards

    Paul
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 14th Oct 16, 12:31 PM
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    The irony is, all this turbulence in the value of the pound is down to the market not liking uncertainty.


    Its not like the stock exchange have some special sage like gift to predict the future - its simply that at the moment they don't "like" sterling because its not a dead cert bet for them.


    I think medium to long term Brexit will be a good thing. Lets not forget that we are best treated with mild distain in the EU and were pumping an awful lot of money in there to resolve other countries problems.


    Short term, yes, there will be pain, but there will also be opportunities, and its looking for - and making the most of - those opportunities that will sort the sheep out from the goats in the local and UK mainland economy.


    Likewise, looking for negatives only makes for a self fulfilling prophecy.


    Europe has probably more to lose than we do by not working with us in a mutually palatable way in the future. They need to not forget that.
    Regards

    Paul
    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 14th Oct 16, 2:20 PM
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    A one-off adjustment of about 20%? And that's assuming that the pound doesn't fall[/URL]
    Originally posted by tara747
    Yes. Are you old enough to remember 1992 and black Wednesday ? Petrol got a lot dearer. There wasn't any other obvious hardship. It was a one off blip in inflation. The pound settled at a lower level, then gradually came back up.

    Check the Irish independent today - Hewlett Packard is cutting its work force. They, with dell and gateway, were one of the foundations of the Celtic tiger back in the 1990s. I've no doubt the uk will be making every sweetheart deal possible once it's no longer constrained by eu rules. As said above, it's the uncertainty that the investors don't like since it's all up in the air now. I think Brexit is an unnecessary disruption, but the truth is no one knows what's going to happen next.

    Two republican minded work mates in Dublin this morning reckoned that a united Ireland with very close political links to Great Britain would be the ideal. Well, lads, that's what was on offer a hundred years ago before all that Easter 1916 stuff. That 20th century - what a waste of time, boys?
    • RikM
    • By RikM 14th Oct 16, 3:13 PM
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    I saw a slightly boggling assertion on the Beeb, that if the govt loses it's legal challenges against Brexit, it could appeal to the European court... ��
    • Golden Anemone
    • By Golden Anemone 14th Oct 16, 4:40 PM
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    Yes. Are you old enough to remember 1992 and black Wednesday ? Petrol got a lot dearer. There wasn't any other obvious hardship. It was a one off blip in inflation. The pound settled at a lower level, then gradually came back up.
    Originally posted by qwert yuiop


    Seriously? Did you not have a mortgage at the time? I did and the interest rate soared and stayed high for quite some time.
    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 14th Oct 16, 6:34 PM
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    Seriously? Did you not have a mortgage at the time? I did and the interest rate soared and stayed high for quite some time.
    Originally posted by Golden Anemone
    I appreciate it's a long time ago, but mortgage rates dropped after black Wednesday.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 14th Oct 16, 7:34 PM
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    Seriously? Did you not have a mortgage at the time? I did and the interest rate soared and stayed high for quite some time.
    Originally posted by Golden Anemone
    Mortgages werent to the scale then that they are now.

    Theres no way they'd use that tool to that level now.
    Regards

    Paul
    • qwert yuiop
    • By qwert yuiop 14th Oct 16, 7:49 PM
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    Mortgages werent to the scale then that they are now.

    Theres no way they'd use that tool to that level now.
    Originally posted by motorguy
    Interest rates are so low these days that a small rise would make a big difference to an interest only loan.
    I also heard today that sales of expensive houses round Belfast have stopped, pending price cuts. Don't know how true it is - we'll find out soon enough.

    Could be a messy couple of years in front of us.
    • motorguy
    • By motorguy 14th Oct 16, 7:58 PM
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    Interest rates are so low these days that a small rise would make a big difference to an interest only loan.
    I also heard today that sales of expensive houses round Belfast have stopped, pending price cuts. Don't know how true it is - we'll find out soon enough.

    Could be a messy couple of years in front of us.
    Originally posted by qwert yuiop
    I've no doubt it will be. But i dont think we'll see a massive jump in interest rates.

    I think Mark Carney will have a very tight grip on things, based on how he handles Canadas finances when he was in charge there.

    Likewise, its very easy to look for the negatives and talk ourselves further into a hole.
    Regards

    Paul
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