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    • gwin
    • By gwin 21st Mar 16, 4:00 PM
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    HMRC say I owe £155.80
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    • 21st Mar 16, 4:00 PM
    HMRC say I owe £155.80 21st Mar 16 at 4:00 PM
    Hi all
    I am currently unemployed and today received a letter from HMRC saying I owe £155.80.
    This mistake is surely down to them or my previous company. What is my best course of action now?
    Many thanks for reading.
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    • chrisbur
    • By chrisbur 23rd Mar 16, 9:00 AM
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    I have always found the help on this site invaluable
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    Originally posted by gwin
    Help can only be given when we understand what the problem is. You need to give full details from the letter advising you of the £155.80 owing.
    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 23rd Mar 16, 10:46 AM
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    Possibly but the letter and breakdown was very clear in both our cases we knew exactly why we had an underpayment and also it was made clear in the first letter that they were not asking to money to be paid back to them just that there would be an adjustment to our tax codes.
    Originally posted by Londonsu
    I had an overpayment letter for £78 once I think and it had all the usual info bits and bobs and a payment slip. Nothing about it going onto my tax code. I had to call to get it adjusted.

    Anyway, again, the OP may have ALL that information (if it is indeed a tax overpayment and not a benefit one, which we still don't know) and still think 'this is clearly someone else's mistake, not mine' which is what the OP implies, in my opinion.

    But again, as we said, we do not have enough information at all to hell
    Survey Earnings 2017 - £163
    • Darksparkle
    • By Darksparkle 23rd Mar 16, 10:47 AM
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    As the OP is unemployed, there would be no benefit reclaiming via tax code unless they receive an occupational pension.
    • mel48rose
    • By mel48rose 23rd Mar 16, 2:53 PM
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    I had an overpayment letter for £78 once I think and it had all the usual info bits and bobs and a payment slip. Nothing about it going onto my tax code. I had to call to get it adjusted.

    Anyway, again, the OP may have ALL that information (if it is indeed a tax overpayment and not a benefit one, which we still don't know) and still think 'this is clearly someone else's mistake, not mine' which is what the OP implies, in my opinion.

    But again, as we said, we do not have enough information at all to hell
    Originally posted by marliepanda
    Unable to help some people
    If you change nothing, nothing will change!!
    • gwin
    • By gwin 23rd Mar 16, 10:38 PM
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    Another apology, I've been away a couple of days.
    I received a P800 form.
    I'm on PAYE so as far as I knew my employer paid whatever the code stated.
    I understand the process so little that I'm afraid I couldn't tell you if I have been paid too much or too little.
    I could be owed £££s over the years and would have no idea.
    If there is any other information you need I'll try my best to get it from the letter they sent.
    • marliepanda
    • By marliepanda 23rd Mar 16, 10:40 PM
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    Another apology, I've been away a couple of days.
    I received a P800 form.
    I'm on PAYE so as far as I knew my employer paid whatever the code stated.
    I understand the process so little that I'm afraid I couldn't tell you if I have been paid too much or too little.
    I could be owed £££s over the years and would have no idea.
    If there is any other information you need I'll try my best to get it from the letter they sent.
    Originally posted by gwin
    It happens. Overpayments and underpayments happen a lot.

    It should break down why you have underpaid. On my latest one it had 3 lines in a big empty box. One was my income from employment, and then there were 2 identical lines which stated JSA. I had not received JSA so I called them up and those details were removed. The JSA totalled £2000 which had led to my '£400 underpayment' which was not correct.

    Check the income figure they have against your P60/P45 from your employer. If its correct, then its more than likely owed. If you think its wrong or there are erroneous income amounts on there (as in my case) call them up and tell them. As you are currently on benefits you will probably have a benefits line as well as your income line.

    Basically its owed (unless the figures are wrong). You can call them to arrange a repayment schedule, and when you get another job you can ask to have your tax code adjusted to take into account your underpayment.

    If they owed you £££'s you'd have received a cheque. I've had overpayment cheques (of thousands before when I had been on emergency tax) and notes that I have underpaid.
    Last edited by marliepanda; 23-03-2016 at 10:44 PM.
    Survey Earnings 2017 - £163
    • chrisbur
    • By chrisbur 24th Mar 16, 8:49 AM
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    Another apology, I've been away a couple of days.
    I received a P800 form.
    I'm on PAYE so as far as I knew my employer paid whatever the code stated.
    I understand the process so little that I'm afraid I couldn't tell you if I have been paid too much or too little.
    I could be owed £££s over the years and would have no idea.
    If there is any other information you need I'll try my best to get it from the letter they sent.
    Originally posted by gwin
    The P800 will have details of earnings and tax paid along with details of tax owed, these details will be a good starting point to see what is happening.
    • gwin
    • By gwin 24th May 16, 3:32 PM
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    As a postscript to all this. It turned out they had put two separate and differing charges for the same thing. When I rang up they said it was either estimated or computer error!
    I asked my former employer for proof of earnings via email which they promptly sent.
    When I rang HMRC back she said "Ok, I'll get that charge removed".
    I asked if she needed to see the email as proof to which she said no! She totally went off my word.

    The whole system is a sham and a license to print money. How many people have taken their own lives after being chased for bogus tax claims?

    I have a relative who was self-employed and a few years ago was told they didn't believe his earnings and promptly charged £25 000. He got legal backing and it turned out the pen pusher had been new to the job and over zealously tried to make a name for himself. After two and a half stressful years the case got dropped.

    My advice to anyone who genuinely believes they have been wrongly charged is don't just pay up for a quiet life or because "they must know what they're talking about" because they DO NOT.
    • HappyMJ
    • By HappyMJ 24th May 16, 3:38 PM
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    As a postscript to all this. It turned out they had put two separate and differing charges for the same thing. When I rang up they said it was either estimated or computer error!
    I asked my former employer for proof of earnings via email which they promptly sent.
    When I rang HMRC back she said "Ok, I'll get that charge removed".
    I asked if she needed to see the email as proof to which she said no! She totally went off my word.

    The whole system is a sham and a license to print money. How many people have taken their own lives after being chased for bogus tax claims?

    I have a relative who was self-employed and a few years ago was told they didn't believe his earnings and promptly charged £25 000. He got legal backing and it turned out the pen pusher had been new to the job and over zealously tried to make a name for himself. After two and a half stressful years the case got dropped.

    My advice to anyone who genuinely believes they have been wrongly charged is don't just pay up for a quiet life or because "they must know what they're talking about" because they DO NOT.
    Originally posted by gwin
    Have you claimed your overpaid tax back?

    Being unemployed and having been employed in the same tax year means you are entitled to a refund of tax that you have overpaid.

    Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money.
    • gwin
    • By gwin 18th Jun 16, 5:14 PM
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    Happy MJ, didn't need to. They were trying to bill me but once I proved them incompetent they dropped it.
    • Mersey
    • By Mersey 18th Jun 16, 5:56 PM
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    What do you mean mistake?

    There are many ways of underpaying and overpaying tax. You still owe it.
    Originally posted by marliepanda


    Such as the 4 million HMRC made last year and in this case too.
    Please be polite to OPs and remember this is a site for Claimants and Appellants to seek redress against their bank, ex-boss or retailer. If they wanted morality or the view of the IoD or Bank they'd ask them.
    • nannytone
    • By nannytone 18th Jun 16, 6:14 PM
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    Happy MJ, didn't need to. They were trying to bill me but once I proved them incompetent they dropped it.
    Originally posted by gwin
    they deal with hundreds of thousands of claims. it isn't surprising that some go awry.

    no one forces you to claim, but still you can't resist having a pop.

    seems a bit ungrateful ...
    i assume you will never claim again?
    • Fluffybunny80
    • By Fluffybunny80 20th Jun 16, 1:12 PM
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    If you can prove the mistake was made by your previous employer then they will have to pay it not you.
    I was wrongly taken off emergency tax in a previous job and when I had a similar letter to you with a similar amount owing, I told them I paid what my employer took off me and it was payrolls mistake.
    Tax office agreed and chased them for payment and told me the matter was closed and I never had to pay it.
    • gwin
    • By gwin 14th Jun 17, 3:38 PM
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    they deal with hundreds of thousands of claims. it isn't surprising that some go awry.

    no one forces you to claim, but still you can't resist having a pop.

    seems a bit ungrateful ...
    i assume you will never claim again?
    Originally posted by nannytone
    So who was having a pop?
    Who was trying to claim?
    Did you even read the post?

    I take it you work for them.
    • IAmWales
    • By IAmWales 14th Jun 17, 3:48 PM
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    So who was having a pop?
    Who was trying to claim?
    Did you even read the post?

    I take it you work for them.
    Originally posted by gwin
    You've rehashed this thread after a year?
    • dippy3103
    • By dippy3103 14th Jun 17, 3:56 PM
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    You've rehashed this thread after a year?
    Originally posted by IAmWales
    Needed time to think of a cutting response maybe?
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